that was 1994 "Whatever skin we're in
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"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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Don't worry about them, they sometimes get stuck in Statler and Waldorf mode.
The commerical concerns - cost to engage, set up, pay the artists, "encouragement" by record companies and musical promoters, | |
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C'mon, the only person who might find this scandalous is Tipper Gore or one of her PMRC friends | |
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The twins brought nothing. I prefer Misty. | |
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He didn't show a damn thing, actually. Another lie. If you have a problem with me, text me. If you don't have my number, you don't know me well enough to have a problem with me. | |
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We've all read the articles and watched interviews from those involved in the creation of this outfit, that came out AFTER PRINCE DIED, about how they were flesh colored bla bla bla and I know you were trying to sound soooo knowledgeable, however my point still stands : At the time and for a good decade after that, the general public had no idea and thought it was his ass being exposed.
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paisleyparkgirl said:
We've all read the articles and watched interviews from those involved in the creation of this outfit, that came out AFTER PRINCE DIED, about how they were flesh colored bla bla bla and I know you were trying to sound soooo knowledgeable, however my point still stands : At the time and for a good decade after that, the general public had no idea and thought it was his ass being exposed.
Anyways, no, they didn't not hire him because they were afraid he'd wear assless pants on the Super Bowl. | |
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lurker316 said:
You replied to a conversation debating his chart progress' impact on him not being tapped sooner. Then you put forth a supposition that again he wasn't tapped because he wasn't hip pop or a legend in the 90s when the 90s had no set paradigm (or a paradigm that only really happened a few times). I think it is much more innocuous: there's a lot of musicians that would make that stage an epic experience and Prince wasn't the first choice despite his fans being ferklempt by that possibility. They got around to him, though. | |
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He didn't show up to We Are the World so there was zero chance of an 80's Superbowl. Also, I'm really surprised nobody has mentioned the name change/industry war thing. He was calling himself the love symbol and running around with the word slave written on his face for half the 90's while bad mouthing the industry any chance he got. He also crossed some big time people like Clive Davis, WB, .... I'm not saying he was wrong to do these things but Prince was always viewed as a difficult artist and he crossed a lot of folks during his career. That had to have had something to do with why he wasn't on in those days. [Edited 2/15/23 19:33pm] | |
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The first real big name headline performance was MJ in 1993, and Prince was definitely falling away from the mainstream in the following years. | |
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leecaldon said:
The first real big name headline performance was MJ in 1993, and Prince was definitely falling away from the mainstream in the following years. If that's the case and it was his lack of mainstream appeal, how do you explain the rest of the 90s and most of the 00s headliners? This concept that the Super Bowl had the most relevant artists of the time is just not accurate whatsoever. | |
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You have the right idea. After considerable success in the early 90s, the dispute with his record label, the name change etc meant that he started fall away somewhat from the mainstream, although he was still news, his releases received publicity and he did have the occasional big hit. . After Emancipation failed to set the world on fire, in no small part due to the EMI's US division folding in 1997, he went properly indie, for several years (with the the brief interlude of Rave in 99, which also suffered a lack of promotion due to record label issues that were nothing to do with him) - at which point most of the public didn't even know he was releasing music. . Certainly, between around 93-05, he would have been an unexpeted choice for the Superbowl half-time. | |
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leecaldon said:
You have the right idea. After considerable success in the early 90s, the dispute with his record label, the name change etc meant that he started fall away somewhat from the mainstream, although he was still news, his releases received publicity and he did have the occasional big hit. . After Emancipation failed to set the world on fire, in no small part due to the EMI's US division folding in 1997, he went properly indie, for several years (with the the brief interlude of Rave in 99, which also suffered a lack of promotion due to record label issues that were nothing to do with him) - at which point most of the public didn't even know he was releasing music. . Certainly, between around 93-05, he would have been an unexpeted choice for the Superbowl half-time. Yes and of course it was expected to have the Blues Brothers headline. | |
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JorisE73 said:
The Blues Brothers did not have some major release in 1997. Ditto to Patti LaBelle and Diana Ross the years prior or Smokey Robinson the year after. Just like The Who weren't setting the world on fire in 2010. The selection process begins with a panel which includes officials such as the NFL’s director of entertainment, folks from the NFL’s production company, and the halftime show’s director and producer. After a long and detailed process, the shortlist is handed over to the Super Bowl’s hosting city for a final decision. Halftime show performers are selected on account of several elements. Genre relevance and popularity are the two most important factors to consider when a shortlist for performers is being made, but choosing headliners is about more than just numbers — it’s about making a statement. “Artists like Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg were at the forefront of the West Coast hip-hop revolution, ‘so to be able to bring them back to L.A., where it all began alongside Eminem, Mary J. Blige and Kendrick Lamar will prove to be an epic, unforgettable celebration of the impact hip hop has today…” Todd Kaplan, VP of Marketing for Pepsi, said in a statement. https://www.charlotteobse...83208.html Miami chose Prince from a shortlist developed by a bunch of NFL heads. Not the most cutting edge folks I reckon. They now have hired, since 2019, RocNation to develop their halftimes. | |
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Do you guys really believe I didn't know or hadn't watched this performance ? | |
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Yep this pretty much hits it. | |
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I watched Prince's performance yesterday. I'd really not looked at it in a minute. If you have a problem with me, text me. If you don't have my number, you don't know me well enough to have a problem with me. | |
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TrivialPursuit said: I watched Prince's performance yesterday. I'd really not looked at it in a minute. Those unhip folks came after Prince. He set the unhip standard, one might say, given the list of acts that came directly after him for a decade. | |
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Perhaps they were trying to fashion the SB stage as one for legends only (which can obviously include newer acts of note). And when it comes to legendary stage shows, I do think Prince is up there in the upper eschelon. I don't think he's first to mind necessarily (there's a lot of musicians out there that have seen more success than Prince and had less controversy attached to their image), but they would have made their way to Prince eventually. They got him at the right time. | |
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OP trolls a lot, but at least still keeps this board active. (Insert something clever here) | |
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Someone's gotta do it.
I don't mean to troll though but if you see it that way it is what it is. | |
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The Blues Brothers with ZZ Top and James Brown. That's two legends/heritage acts. | |
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