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Thread started 01/26/23 4:46pm

paisleyparkgir
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When was Prince at his raunchiest ? early 80's or early 90's ?

He was pretty raunchy in the early 80's but then in the early 90's songs with like "I wanna melt with u" , "Gett off", "Violet the Organ Grinder", "Cream" and the whole "Come" situation, assless chaps at the VMAS, I don't know which era is the raunchiest.

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Reply #1 posted 01/26/23 4:53pm

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80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy

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Reply #2 posted 01/26/23 5:13pm

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lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy

That's one way to look at it but do you think songs like "Head', "Jack u off" are sophisticated ?

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Reply #3 posted 01/26/23 7:31pm

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lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy


"Look here, Martha. I'm not sayin' this just to be nasty. But I sincerely want to fuck the taste out of your mouth. Can you relate?"






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Reply #4 posted 01/26/23 7:34pm

LoveGalore

lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy



"Incest is everything it's said to be"
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Reply #5 posted 01/26/23 7:35pm

LoveGalore

lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy



"Now, are you going to get into the tub or do I have to rape you?"

Edit: So sorry, I got this one wrong. The lyric is, "I'm sorry but I'm just going to have to rape you. Now are you going to get into the tub or do I have to drag you? I'm on the verge of rape. I'm on the verge of rape."
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Reply #6 posted 01/26/23 7:37pm

LoveGalore

lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy



"I need 7 inches or more"
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Reply #7 posted 01/26/23 9:12pm

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Lovegalore is going in haha.

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Reply #8 posted 01/27/23 1:29am

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Yeah, "sophistication" is not the word I would have chosen. lol

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Reply #9 posted 01/27/23 5:20am

RJOrion

lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy



Met her in a hotel lobby masturbating with a magazine
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Reply #10 posted 01/27/23 5:32am

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guys stop making fun of me ok?

i was trying to articulate something and my post didn't come out perfect, i will take time to rethink what i was trying to say

stop making FUN OF ME

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Reply #11 posted 01/27/23 5:49am

RJOrion

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Reply #12 posted 01/27/23 5:49am

RJOrion

Technical difficulties...delete
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Reply #13 posted 01/27/23 6:07am

LoveGalore

lustmealways said:

guys stop making fun of me ok?

i was trying to articulate something and my post didn't come out perfect, i will take time to rethink what i was trying to say

stop making FUN OF ME

AHHHHH



Te amo corazon.
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Reply #14 posted 01/27/23 6:13am

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lurker316 said:

lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy


"Look here, Martha. I'm not sayin' this just to be nasty. But I sincerely want to fuck the taste out of your mouth. Can you relate?"






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Reply #15 posted 01/27/23 6:16am

JorisE73

RJOrion said:

lustmealways said:

80s was sophesticated raunchy 90s was sleaze raunchy

Met her in a hotel lobby masturbating with a magazine


This one is both:

1. a woman sitting in a lobby masturbating while flipping a magazine (sophisticated)
2. a woman sitting in a lobby vehemently jamming a mag up her snatch (sleazy)

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Reply #16 posted 01/27/23 7:39am

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They weren't ass-less. He was fully covered, including his butt.

I think Prince was more raunchy in the 80s. "Head," "Sister," "Let's Pretend We're Married," "Erotic City," "Jack U Off," "Horny Toad," etc. That's just raunchy.

The 90s, while raunchy, delved more into eroticism and fetishism. "Pheromone" is a good example. Sometimes the depth of it gets lost in the singing, but to just read the words. The song is about him watching a couple have a BDSM or capture-sex moment. He himself is going crazy just watching.

I can see the hands tied, I can see it all
He pulls a gat - this is how they play the game
And I'm 'round the back cuz curiosity, it knows no shame

I'm on fire cuz I never seen her nude before
I wanna save her, I want 2 watch
All my vital signs go up a couple of notches
When he unties her and she runs 2 the open door
He trips and grinds her right there all on the floor
She’s so close I can touch her

Her eyes are closed but there's no penetration
He just makes her point the pistol 2 his nose while he masturbates
And I see a tear headed down towards her smile


It's a freaky situation. But it's fetishism and eroticism. It's great storytelling, actually. There are plenty of other examples. He grew in how he wrote about sex and love in the 90s. Sexy-Prince was still there, but he had some experience under his belt (pun intended).

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #17 posted 01/27/23 8:13am

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"As long as you wash between your soul and through your hair....I'll do my duty there".

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Reply #18 posted 01/27/23 9:41am

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80s was Prince saying "I want to do these things to you"
90s was Prince saying "I'm going to do these things to you".

eek

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Reply #19 posted 01/27/23 10:07am

RJOrion

Se7en said:

80s was Prince saying "I want to do these things to you"
90s was Prince saying "I'm going to do these things to you".

eek




80's Prince: "Give us this day, our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses"

90's Prince: "23 positions in a one-night stand..."
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Reply #20 posted 01/27/23 10:09am

LoveGalore

The difference between 80s Prince and 90s Prince is just time and creativity. I don't think he was any more or less raunchy or explicit. It was just different and slightly more mature, which is to be expected. You weirdos.
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Reply #21 posted 01/27/23 10:16am

RJOrion

LoveGalore said:

The difference between 80s Prince and 90s Prince is just time and creativity. I don't think he was any more or less raunchy or explicit. It was just different and slightly more mature, which is to be expected. You weirdos.


I agree...speaking of weirdos, wtf does it mean for someone to have "racecars burn rubber in my pants..."?
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Reply #22 posted 01/27/23 10:43am

LoveGalore

RJOrion said:

LoveGalore said:

The difference between 80s Prince and 90s Prince is just time and creativity. I don't think he was any more or less raunchy or explicit. It was just different and slightly more mature, which is to be expected. You weirdos.


I agree...speaking of weirdos, wtf does it mean for someone to have "racecars burn rubber in my pants..."?


It reminds me of when Susannah was arguing with him over the lyrics to "Miss Understood" and she said he wrote lyrics women would never actually say. Burning rubber doesn't sound sexy on any part of the body lmao
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Reply #23 posted 01/27/23 11:12am

RJOrion

Lovesexy is the weirdest song ever...if its true that he was trippin on Ecstacy or acid or whatever, during the Black Album/Lovesexy era, he was either zooted off some shit or fiending for some shit, when he wrote/produced that joint... great song though...synth-funk masterpiece

Everybody on the block say it is the best
The most vital is what they say, more or less
It put my name upon my thigh
It makes me dance, It makes me cry
And when I touch it race cars burn rubber in my pants
This feeling's so good in every single way
I want it morning, noon and night of every day
And if, by chance, I cannot have it, I can't say
But with it I know heaven's just a kiss away
Kiss away
Dig me now
Anyone that's ever touched it
They don't want nothin else (No they don't)
And I got to tell the world
I just can't keep it to myself
All in life becomes easier
No question is unresolved
And I'm not afraid
Come on and touch it, I know you will love it
With it I know that heaven's a butterfly kiss away


WTF IS HE TALKIN'BOUT ?

sounds like some good blow.....
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Reply #24 posted 01/27/23 11:13am

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RJOrion said:

Lovesexy is the weirdest song ever...if its true that he was trippin on Ecstacy or acid or whatever, during the Black Album/Lovesexy era, he was either zooted off some shit or fiending for some shit, when he wrote/produced that joint... great song though...synth-funk masterpiece Everybody on the block say it is the best The most vital is what they say, more or less It put my name upon my thigh It makes me dance, It makes me cry And when I touch it race cars burn rubber in my pants This feeling's so good in every single way I want it morning, noon and night of every day And if, by chance, I cannot have it, I can't say But with it I know heaven's just a kiss away Kiss away Dig me now Anyone that's ever touched it They don't want nothin else (No they don't) And I got to tell the world I just can't keep it to myself All in life becomes easier No question is unresolved And I'm not afraid Come on and touch it, I know you will love it With it I know that heaven's a butterfly kiss away WTF IS HE TALKIN'BOUT ? sounds like some good blow........

Ask Cat.

She was the main one around during that time. Apparently she's the only one who understood him during this phase of his.

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Reply #25 posted 01/27/23 11:20am

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paisleyparkgirl said:



RJOrion said:


Lovesexy is the weirdest song ever...if its true that he was trippin on Ecstacy or acid or whatever, during the Black Album/Lovesexy era, he was either zooted off some shit or fiending for some shit, when he wrote/produced that joint... great song though...synth-funk masterpiece Everybody on the block say it is the best The most vital is what they say, more or less It put my name upon my thigh It makes me dance, It makes me cry And when I touch it race cars burn rubber in my pants This feeling's so good in every single way I want it morning, noon and night of every day And if, by chance, I cannot have it, I can't say But with it I know heaven's just a kiss away Kiss away Dig me now Anyone that's ever touched it They don't want nothin else (No they don't) And I got to tell the world I just can't keep it to myself All in life becomes easier No question is unresolved And I'm not afraid Come on and touch it, I know you will love it With it I know that heaven's a butterfly kiss away WTF IS HE TALKIN'BOUT ? sounds like some good blow.....


Ask Cat.



She was the main one around during that time.



Cat Glover is a loyal soldier...she talks alotta shit and spins a great story...but she doesnt tell dead men's secrets...and i love her for it.
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Reply #26 posted 01/27/23 11:21am

RJOrion

Ingrid Chavez was around him alot then too... let her (and others) tell it.
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Reply #27 posted 01/27/23 11:35am

LoveGalore

RJOrion said:

Lovesexy is the weirdest song ever...if its true that he was trippin on Ecstacy or acid or whatever, during the Black Album/Lovesexy era, he was either zooted off some shit or fiending for some shit, when he wrote/produced that joint... great song though...synth-funk masterpiece

Everybody on the block say it is the best
The most vital is what they say, more or less
It put my name upon my thigh
It makes me dance, It makes me cry
And when I touch it race cars burn rubber in my pants
This feeling's so good in every single way
I want it morning, noon and night of every day
And if, by chance, I cannot have it, I can't say
But with it I know heaven's just a kiss away
Kiss away
Dig me now
Anyone that's ever touched it
They don't want nothin else (No they don't)
And I got to tell the world
I just can't keep it to myself
All in life becomes easier
No question is unresolved
And I'm not afraid
Come on and touch it, I know you will love it
With it I know that heaven's a butterfly kiss away


WTF IS HE TALKIN'BOUT ?

sounds like some good blow.....


It's the perfect distillation of Prince's whole gig. What he was always talking about, basically. It's being so spiritually in touch with your higher power that you are bursting with joy (race cars metaphor for hot, energy) that a mere kiss could send you into euphoric states, nevermind what he planned to do to [you] "tomorrow."

Like being high on his love for Jesus. He often made references to being so horny that a girl would only have to touch him or look at him and he'd cum. There's also an allusion to this in Gigolos Get Lonely Too. So yeah, Prince was super into the idea of a state of euphoria brought on by his love for God and how it powered his sexuality.
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Reply #28 posted 01/27/23 12:20pm

RJOrion

LoveGalore said:

RJOrion said:

Lovesexy is the weirdest song ever...if its true that he was trippin on Ecstacy or acid or whatever, during the Black Album/Lovesexy era, he was either zooted off some shit or fiending for some shit, when he wrote/produced that joint... great song though...synth-funk masterpiece

Everybody on the block say it is the best
The most vital is what they say, more or less
It put my name upon my thigh
It makes me dance, It makes me cry
And when I touch it race cars burn rubber in my pants
This feeling's so good in every single way
I want it morning, noon and night of every day
And if, by chance, I cannot have it, I can't say
But with it I know heaven's just a kiss away
Kiss away
Dig me now
Anyone that's ever touched it
They don't want nothin else (No they don't)
And I got to tell the world
I just can't keep it to myself
All in life becomes easier
No question is unresolved
And I'm not afraid
Come on and touch it, I know you will love it
With it I know that heaven's a butterfly kiss away


WTF IS HE TALKIN'BOUT ?

sounds like some good blow.....


It's the perfect distillation of Prince's whole gig. What he was always talking about, basically. It's being so spiritually in touch with your higher power that you are bursting with joy (race cars metaphor for hot, energy) that a mere kiss could send you into euphoric states, nevermind what he planned to do to [you] "tomorrow."

Like being high on his love for Jesus. He often made references to being so horny that a girl would only have to touch him or look at him and he'd cum. There's also an allusion to this in Gigolos Get Lonely Too. So yeah, Prince was super into the idea of a state of euphoria brought on by his love for God and how it powered his sexuality.


Yeah ive heard that esoteric explanation before... i dont know if i completely buy into it though... there's an undercurrent of hidden (and not so hidden) possible references to drugs/addiction in multiple songs early in his career...i dont put anything past those sneaky ass Geminis...they are masters at lying and/or hiding shit...ive known too many


"..Welcome to the New Power Generation
The reason my voice is so clear
Is there's no SMACK in my brain..."


why would he feel the need to say that, as the 1st words out of his mouth on the Lovesexy album?
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RJOrion said:

Ingrid Chavez was around him alot then too... let her (and others) tell it.

I don't think he confided in her as much compared to Cat during that time. She said some very intense things were going on during that time.

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