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Thread started 01/24/23 10:58am

nayroo2002

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TOO MANY COMPLAINTS TO THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!

Please, nice folks, if you want to change their future inventory, just tell them how you feel about the current selection and what could be potentially more interesting to purchase as a true Prince fan!

Pretty simple, actually biggrin :

https://store.prince.com/page/Feedback

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #1 posted 01/24/23 11:46am

EnglishGent2

nayroo2002 said:

Please, nice folks, if you want to change their future inventory, just tell them how you feel about the current selection and what could be potentially more interesting to purchase as a true Prince fan!

Pretty simple, actually biggrin :

https://store.prince.com/page/Feedback

I emailed them suggesting that they sell more music. Got the impression that they're there for feedback on current items and have no influence or knowledge of upcoming products. They certainly can't get us more music.

The orger formerly known as https://prince.org/profil...nglishGent
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Reply #2 posted 01/24/23 1:04pm

LoveGalore

This feedback goes to a customer service manager who files it away for whenever their higher ups care. That can be tomorrow or never.

Complaining to the store or to the PP IG etc is useless as the people looking at it are just regular joes clocking in. It's not Levi and Cat administering this shit.

Now, if you organized it in DROVES.... Other fandoms have indeed pushed for things to change or be changed. The possibility is there. But we don't even know who actually is in charge. Literally nobody here knows the status of any of it because literally nobody has said anything and the people who used to talk are no longer addressing it.
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Reply #3 posted 01/24/23 2:55pm

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A Change.org petition? Those are pretty usually as well, but might generate some media attention?


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Reply #4 posted 01/24/23 3:04pm

LoveGalore

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A Change.org petition? Those are pretty usually as well, but might generate some media attention?




Could be useful as it's a visual medium and dedicated to just that. Nobody's gonna care unless you cut out the noise and get right to the point. Change petitions are useful for that.
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Reply #5 posted 01/25/23 12:42am

Vannormal

nayroo2002 said:

Please, nice folks, if you want to change their future inventory, just tell them how you feel about the current selection and what could be potentially more interesting to purchase as a true Prince fan!

Pretty simple, actually biggrin :

https://store.prince.com/page/Feedback

You think I haven't done this already a zillion times ? wink

Since the day it was 'up' and available.

Sure, here complaints are just for 'us' fans. The Estate don't give a shit what happens here.

The .org is nearly dead by the way. Always the same 20/25 people reacting or posting.

Most interesting people are gone, we all know why.

And the reason why i still come here is because i lost my wonderful Disord connection and can't get in anymore.

Another reason is that there still is 0,99 % hope left in me for some great news.

I think most here will agree with the latter.

But I don't check everyday anymore.

Even the non-related-Prince-music section/forum has more comments and news these days.

[Edited 1/25/23 8:38am]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #6 posted 01/25/23 2:41am

LoveGalore

Vannormal said:



nayroo2002 said:


Please, nice folks, if you want to change their future inventory, just tell them how you feel about the current selection and what could be potentially more interesting to purchase as a true Prince fan!


Pretty simple, actually biggrin :



https://store.prince.com/page/Feedback



You think I haven't done this already a zillion times ?


Since the day it was 'up' and available.


Caus esure here compalints are just for 'us' fans, they don't give a shit what happens here.


The .org is dead by the way. Always the same 20/25 people reacting or posting.


Most interesting people are gone.


And the reason why i still come here is because i lost my wonderful Disord connection and can't get in anymore.


Another reason is that there still is 0,99 % hope left in me for some great news.


I think most here will agree with the latter.


But I don't check everyday anymore.


Even the non-related-Prince-music section/forum has more comments and news these days.

[Edited 1/25/23 0:48am]



"I've already done this, so it must be futile if it didn't work for me.

Btw fuck this place and you uninteresting people."

Alrighty then.
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Reply #7 posted 01/25/23 4:45am

TrivialPursuit

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Someone email Londell and Sharon. There's your problem area.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #8 posted 01/25/23 7:22am

fredmagnus

Why ? They're a lost cause.

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Reply #9 posted 01/25/23 8:41am

Genesia

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lurker316 said:


A Change.org petition? Those are pretty usually as well, but might generate some media attention?



The only thing change.org petitions are good for is helping change.org collect email addresses for lists it can then compile and sell.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #10 posted 01/25/23 8:47am

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Genesia said:

lurker316 said:


A Change.org petition? Those are pretty usually as well, but might generate some media attention?



The only thing change.org petitions are good for is helping change.org collect email addresses for lists it can then compile and sell.

Sad, but true.

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Reply #11 posted 01/25/23 5:12pm

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Change.org? It's like that thread in the General Discussion forum where TrivialPursuit was goofing on people still using Outlook Express and Hotmail.

The sentiment of this thread is absolutely correct, however. I'm not critiquing that, it's just we'd need a more contemporary means to get any tangible amount of traction.


Social media campaign, YouTube videos, a Twitter hashtag... something more modern.


There's a lot of Prince channels, maybe if they banded together. There's a decent amount of n00b Prince fans on places like reddit that seem more populated than here.. Unfortunately they seem so far off in the other direction where they're posting 1999 fan-art and debating Purple Rain singles that it's questionable whether they even care about The Vault at this stage in their journeys... prove me wrong, n00bs.



Either way, we'd need some kind of unity as "fams" to get some media attention, which is the only way shit gets done these days... and it's possible, he's definitely got some stans in professional media. Bryant Gumbel looked ready to cry when P performed at his goodbye Today Show 20 years ago.

Unfortunately unity is probably the #1 Prince fan achilles heel. Org acted like I was joking when I suggested we storm the Estate capitol on January 21st. Little playful hyperbole, sure, but something drastic (and unified) needs to happen.

[Edited 1/25/23 17:23pm]

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Reply #12 posted 01/25/23 5:17pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Change.org? It's like that thread in the General Discussion forum where TrivialPursuit was goofing on people still using Outlook Express and Hotmail.

The sentiment of this thread is absolutely correct, however. I'm not critiquing that, it's just we'd need a more contemporary means to get any tangible amount of traction.


Social media campaign, YouTube videos, a Twitter hashtag... something more modern.


There's a lot of Prince channels, maybe if they banded together. There's a decent amount of n00b Prince fans on places like reddit that seem more populated than here.. Unfortunately they seem so far off in the other direction where they're posting 1999 fan-art and debating Purple Rain singles that it's questionable whether they even care about The Vault at this stage in their journeys... prove me wrong, n00bs.



Either way, we'd need some kind of unity as "fams" to get some media attention, which is the only way shit gets done these days... and it's possible, he's definitely got some stans in professional media. Bryant Gumbel looked ready to cry when P performed at his goodbye Today Show 20 years ago.

Unfortunately unity is probably the #1 Prince fan achilles heel. Org acted like I was joking when I suggested we storm the Estate capitol on January 21st. Little playful hyperbole, sure, but something drastic needs to happen.

Celebrity Prince stans include : Toure, Chris Rock, Regina Hall, Beyonce but she's very busy with her career right now.

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Reply #13 posted 01/25/23 5:23pm

laytonian

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A Change.org petition? Those are pretty usually as well, but might generate some media attention?


all those petition sites exist for one reason onlyh: to capture your credentials and interests so they can sell it off to marketers.

No serious business pays attention to online petitions.

THE ESTATE ITSELF is in charge of products and music. But I've not found away to get through to them except via one person a bit down the chain who can only forward.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #14 posted 01/25/23 5:23pm

Gooddoctor23

This Estate is trash.

Graycap23 says hello.

99.9% of everything u have been taught, is 99.9% B.S.
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Reply #15 posted 01/25/23 5:40pm

WhisperingDand
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paisleyparkgirl said:

Celebrity Prince stans include : Toure, Chris Rock, Regina Hall, Beyonce but she's very busy with her career right now.

Don't forget ?uestlove. It literally takes one celeb (or person inside the Tonight Show studio) throwing a passing comment to ?uest during a Fallon taping to get something going.

Though it's debatable whether ?uest would really go for that jugular or play it safe out of hopes the estate hooks him up with some prereleases and maybe some comp'd PR PJs.

Which raises the main concern: Unity. Prince fans are like the high school cafeteria, everyone's got their own clique table. Right now the "elite trader" table is like "forget these miscreants, we need no one", the "elite celeb" table is "duuennno, don't wanna fumble the bag either way," the reddit n00b crowd are like "hey we care about The Vault, too, we just also want to know what the best single from Lovesexy to start with is or if you all think the whole album is worth a Spotify stream right out the gate," LSA's saying whatever, Org, etc.. And everyone's like man fuck those other tables...

We gotta agree on a common goal and bring it, all generations/tables.

[Edited 1/25/23 17:40pm]

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Reply #16 posted 01/25/23 5:49pm

LoveGalore

WhisperingDandelions said:



paisleyparkgirl said:



Celebrity Prince stans include : Toure, Chris Rock, Regina Hall, Beyonce but she's very busy with her career right now.



Don't forget ?uestlove. It literally takes one celeb (or person inside the Tonight Show studio) throwing a passing comment to ?uest during a Fallon taping to get something going.

Though it's debatable whether ?uest would really go for that jugular or play it safe out of hopes the estate hooks him up with some prereleases and maybe some comp'd PR PJs.

Which raises the main concern: Unity. Prince fans are like the high school cafeteria, everyone's got their own clique table. Right now the "elite trader" table is like "forget these miscreants, we need no one", the "elite celeb" table is "duuennno, don't wanna fumble the bag either way," the reddit n00b crowd are like "hey we care about The Vault, too, we just also want to know what the best single from Lovesexy to start with is or if you all think the whole album is worth a Spotify stream right out the gate," LSA's saying whatever, Org, etc.. And everyone's like man fuck those other tables...

We gotta agree on a common goal and bring it, all generations/tables.

[Edited 1/25/23 17:40pm]



You think Questlove is worth mentioning? Homeboy loves to humble (and not so humble) brag about the droves of unreleased music he has. And it would be no real surprise he would have advanced copies of all the SDEs that he'd tease at his DJ gigs.

Quest knows what it feels like for Prince's fans. He underscores his knowledge of that every time he mentions the vastness of his collection and how he attained it.
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Reply #17 posted 01/26/23 9:04am

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WhisperingDandelions said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

Celebrity Prince stans include : Toure, Chris Rock, Regina Hall, Beyonce but she's very busy with her career right now.

Don't forget ?uestlove. It literally takes one celeb (or person inside the Tonight Show studio) throwing a passing comment to ?uest during a Fallon taping to get something going.

Though it's debatable whether ?uest would really go for that jugular or play it safe out of hopes the estate hooks him up with some prereleases and maybe some comp'd PR PJs.

Which raises the main concern: Unity. Prince fans are like the high school cafeteria, everyone's got their own clique table. Right now the "elite trader" table is like "forget these miscreants, we need no one", the "elite celeb" table is "duuennno, don't wanna fumble the bag either way," the reddit n00b crowd are like "hey we care about The Vault, too, we just also want to know what the best single from Lovesexy to start with is or if you all think the whole album is worth a Spotify stream right out the gate," LSA's saying whatever, Org, etc.. And everyone's like man fuck those other tables...

We gotta agree on a common goal and bring it, all generations/tables.

[Edited 1/25/23 17:40pm]

Questlove doesn't care about our plight.

Remember that he is in possesion of exclusive Prince material that we'll never get to see and has no problem bragging about it.

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Reply #18 posted 01/26/23 9:05am

paisleyparkgir
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LoveGalore said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Don't forget ?uestlove. It literally takes one celeb (or person inside the Tonight Show studio) throwing a passing comment to ?uest during a Fallon taping to get something going.

Though it's debatable whether ?uest would really go for that jugular or play it safe out of hopes the estate hooks him up with some prereleases and maybe some comp'd PR PJs.

Which raises the main concern: Unity. Prince fans are like the high school cafeteria, everyone's got their own clique table. Right now the "elite trader" table is like "forget these miscreants, we need no one", the "elite celeb" table is "duuennno, don't wanna fumble the bag either way," the reddit n00b crowd are like "hey we care about The Vault, too, we just also want to know what the best single from Lovesexy to start with is or if you all think the whole album is worth a Spotify stream right out the gate," LSA's saying whatever, Org, etc.. And everyone's like man fuck those other tables...

We gotta agree on a common goal and bring it, all generations/tables.

[Edited 1/25/23 17:40pm]

You think Questlove is worth mentioning? Homeboy loves to humble (and not so humble) brag about the droves of unreleased music he has. And it would be no real surprise he would have advanced copies of all the SDEs that he'd tease at his DJ gigs. Quest knows what it feels like for Prince's fans. He underscores his knowledge of that every time he mentions the vastness of his collection and how he attained it.

You read my mind. I hadn't even read your comment before I posted mine hehe.

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Reply #19 posted 01/26/23 9:09am

paisleyparkgir
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WhisperingDandelions said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

Celebrity Prince stans include : Toure, Chris Rock, Regina Hall, Beyonce but she's very busy with her career right now.

Don't forget ?uestlove. It literally takes one celeb (or person inside the Tonight Show studio) throwing a passing comment to ?uest during a Fallon taping to get something going.

Though it's debatable whether ?uest would really go for that jugular or play it safe out of hopes the estate hooks him up with some prereleases and maybe some comp'd PR PJs.

Which raises the main concern: Unity. Prince fans are like the high school cafeteria, everyone's got their own clique table. Right now the "elite trader" table is like "forget these miscreants, we need no one", the "elite celeb" table is "duuennno, don't wanna fumble the bag either way," the reddit n00b crowd are like "hey we care about The Vault, too, we just also want to know what the best single from Lovesexy to start with is or if you all think the whole album is worth a Spotify stream right out the gate," LSA's saying whatever, Org, etc.. And everyone's like man fuck those other tables...

We gotta agree on a common goal and bring it, all generations/tables.

[Edited 1/25/23 17:40pm]

From what I've seen reddit is mostly people who are just getting into Prince's music so they're excited to discover the wonderful purple world, unlike the majority of orgers who have been Prince fans since the 80's. The priorities will be different. LSA are the Prince fans who care about his psyche, personal life etc...and how it ties into his art, and then there's the twitter crowd who seem to always want to fight with MJ stans.

Such a diverse crowd.

[Edited 1/26/23 9:09am]

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Reply #20 posted 01/26/23 9:37am

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Per goglee search:::
"How much does it cost to hire Questlove?
$100,000 - $200,000
The estimated speaking fee range to book Questlove for your event is $100,000 - $200,000. Questlove generally travels from Philadelphia, PA, USA and can be booked for (private) corporate events, personal appearances, keynote speeches, or other performances."
No wonder we have no new releases!
That price is just for ONE SPIN of A FEW bootlegs (maybe, if your lucky).
I'm still waiting for that 'Camille' release from J. White! biggrin

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #21 posted 01/27/23 12:58am

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Private forums, Discord servers, Facebook, Reddit, etc. Meh. Let's all go back to alt.music.prince. lol

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Reply #22 posted 01/27/23 5:43am

JorisE73

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Private forums, Discord servers, Facebook, Reddit, etc. Meh. Let's all go back to alt.music.prince. lol


Ha! I'll opt for the old Prince BBS's, that's where all the fun began before Pewr Nilsen and 'Uptown' mag showed up (and every inch of info was shared by the now recluse elite who sometimes pops up on Discord.) But I also miss to read a.m.p.

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Reply #23 posted 01/27/23 9:50am

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Everything will be monetized at some point, I just hope I'm around to hear it.

The Deliverance EP was a nice surprise (legal debates aside) . . . and, while not the greatest, was a nice reminder that there's stuff out there that no one has heard yet. Same with most of W2A (which I hadn't heard before).

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Reply #24 posted 01/30/23 12:21pm

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olb99 said:

Private forums, Discord servers, Facebook, Reddit, etc. Meh. Let's all go back to alt.music.prince. lol


Long live AMP! woot!


https://groups.google.com...sic.prince

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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