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Thread started 12/17/22 4:04pm

lustmealways

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one day (gonna make u mine)

fucking killer track. came on shuffle this morning. god almighty what a track. it's no koo koo buut it's close

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Reply #1 posted 12/18/22 11:00am

Robbajobba

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lustmealways said:

fucking killer track. came on shuffle this morning. god almighty what a track. it's no koo koo buut it's close

Hadn't listened to that track for about 25 years but I just put it on and wow - I'd forgotten how many great tracks there are on that album. Thanks for the reminder.

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Reply #2 posted 12/18/22 11:15am

LILpoundCAKE

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good one! I hadn't listened to it in ages, thanks for reminding us.

also listening to "boy's club" now. wondering what the prince vocal version sounds like,
it's such a fun track with lots of little quirky shit going on. love the synths on it smile


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Reply #3 posted 12/18/22 11:48am

BlackSweat86

That album was the BOMB. Still love it
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Reply #4 posted 12/18/22 2:44pm

TrivialPursuit

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You know, I find that third record to be her best. Yet a couple of the Prince tracks are the weakest on the record. "Boy's Club" and "Love On a Blue Train" are the best of his, as well as "Koo Koo," which is so quintessentially Prince-weird that one can argue against not loving it.

But it's "One Day (Gonna Make U Mine)" and "Pride and the Passion" that are just so basic of tracks. "One Day"'s vocals are warbly and thin. Then you slide into something like "Wednesday Like A River," "Hold Me," and "Fadded Photographs," then "Koo Koo," and those songs are their own EP. 4 great killer tracks back to back to back. A complete beginning, middle, and end, and each their own distinct sound.

The same goes for side two. "Pride and the Passion" is just juvenille. Then you get to a jam like "Boy's Club" with its coy lyrics and weird honky piano fills, and it's a fun romp. The phone call at the beginning throws back to Apollonia 6 or Vanity 6's "If A Girl Answers." The jam continues with "Soul Salsa," "Hon E Man", and "Blue Train." Again, the last 4 songs of side B are their own EP.

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Reply #5 posted 12/18/22 3:49pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

You know, I find that third record to be her best. Yet a couple of the Prince tracks are the weakest on the record. "Boy's Club" and "Love On a Blue Train" are the best of his, as well as "Koo Koo," which is so quintessentially Prince-weird that one can argue against not loving it.

But it's "One Day (Gonna Make U Mine)" and "Pride and the Passion" that are just so basic of tracks. "One Day"'s vocals are warbly and thin. Then you slide into something like "Wednesday Like A River," "Hold Me," and "Fadded Photographs," then "Koo Koo," and those songs are their own EP. 4 great killer tracks back to back to back. A complete beginning, middle, and end, and each their own distinct sound.

The same goes for side two. "Pride and the Passion" is just juvenille. Then you get to a jam like "Boy's Club" with its coy lyrics and weird honky piano fills, and it's a fun romp. The phone call at the beginning throws back to Apollonia 6 or Vanity 6's "If A Girl Answers." The jam continues with "Soul Salsa," "Hon E Man", and "Blue Train." Again, the last 4 songs of side B are their own EP.


I agree. I generally love that album, but One Day is one of the few songs on it I don't like.



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Reply #6 posted 12/18/22 10:40pm

SoulAlive

Great song from my favorite Sheila E. album.
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Reply #7 posted 12/19/22 6:18am

GiggityGoo

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You made me put the album on yesterday, while I was working. I'd forgotten what a solid collection of tunes it is! All the Prince-written songs are obviously his, but they're perfectly produced for Sheila's style.

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Today I think I'll fire up "Romance 1600". It's been ages since I gave that one a listen, too.

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Reply #8 posted 12/19/22 7:27am

Vannormal

I wish (this/these) song(s) were sung by The Family !

Great album indeed.

Thanks for digging this up.

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Reply #9 posted 12/19/22 3:01pm

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Vannormal said:

I wish (this/these) song(s) were sung by The Family !

Great album indeed.

Thanks for digging this up.


I can hear them doing "Love on a Blue Train."

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Reply #10 posted 12/20/22 9:58pm

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I quite like ̶L̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶B̶a̶t̶t̶l̶e̶f̶i̶e̶l̶d̶ Faded Photographs.
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Reply #11 posted 12/21/22 3:16am

Vannormal

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I quite like ̶L̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶B̶a̶t̶t̶l̶e̶f̶i̶e̶l̶d̶ Faded Photographs.

From now on I'm your biggest fan erik319

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Reply #12 posted 12/21/22 8:44am

SoulAlive

This was Sheila’s most consistent and most diverse album.There was a sultry R&B slow jam (“Hold Me”),the rockin’ “Faded Photographs”,a fun dance track (“Boys Club”),some cool funk with a message (“Koo Koo”) and a few other standout tracks (“Hon E Man”,”Love On A Blue Train”).It’s just a shame that the album wasn’t really promoted at all.
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Reply #13 posted 12/28/22 5:48pm

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This is my favourite Sheila E album. It felt complete, rather than a collection of tracks. But I think they made a big mistake making Hold Me the lead single ,and then Koo Koo as the second. I think they should have gone with Faded Photographs and Wednesday like a river.

And shout out the the Hold Me B-side, The World is High. Fucking brilliant track, and better than half of the album. Well ahead of it's time for 1986.

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Reply #14 posted 12/28/22 6:09pm

TrivialPursuit

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SquirrelMeat said:

This is my favourite Sheila E album. It felt complete, rather than a collection of tracks. But I think they made a big mistake making Hold Me the lead single ,and then Koo Koo as the second. I think they should have gone with Faded Photographs and Wednesday like a river.

And shout out the the Hold Me B-side, The World is High. Fucking brilliant track, and better than half of the album. Well ahead of it's time for 1986.


I'd agree about the single order.

Faded Photographs

Koo Koo

Hold Me

Wednesday Like A River

Boy's Club

The last song really did evoke a lot of 80s music at that point. The album's biggest problem is the simple mismarketing of it.

And honestly, they could've led with "Koo Koo," simply because of the Prince input. Get folks in the door, then shock them with something huge like "Faded Photographs" or "Boy's Club."

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Reply #15 posted 12/28/22 6:10pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

This is my favourite Sheila E album. It felt complete, rather than a collection of tracks. But I think they made a big mistake making Hold Me the lead single ,and then Koo Koo as the second. I think they should have gone with Faded Photographs and Wednesday like a river.

And shout out the the Hold Me B-side, The World is High. Fucking brilliant track, and better than half of the album. Well ahead of it's time for 1986.



I really like this ablum, but I'm not sure it's my favorite Sheila E album. That would be Romance 1600.



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Reply #16 posted 12/29/22 7:09am

jazzz

That 3rd Sheila E album would have been a great candidate for a cd rerelease by funkytowngrooves/cherryred, with additional tracks:

Paradise Gardens
The World is High
Koo Koo (12" remix)
Love on a Blue Train (full version)
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Reply #17 posted 12/29/22 7:19am

SoulAlive

I think,after "Hold Me",the singles should have been "Faded Photographs" (with a great video and lots of MTV exposure)....then "Pride And The Passion" and finally,"Love On A Blue Train".

That's four strong singles right there,imo.

SquirrelMeat said:

I think they made a big mistake making Hold Me the lead single ,and then Koo Koo as the second. I think they should have gone with Faded Photographs and Wednesday like a river.

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Reply #18 posted 12/29/22 7:55am

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jazzz said:

That 3rd Sheila E album would have been a great candidate for a cd rerelease by funkytowngrooves/cherryred, with additional tracks: Paradise Gardens The World is High Koo Koo (12" remix) Love on a Blue Train (full version)


The Time's first album got an official remastered and expanded edition release. I assumed that more would come, either more Time albums or a Sheila album.

I'm surprised we've not seen any more. Seems odd that they did just one album. If that had been the plan all along (to do just one album), I figured they would have picked a more commericially successful one, such as Ice Cream Castles or Glamorous Life. Perhaps the plan had been to do more, but the remaster The Time didn't sell well enought? Or perhaps the new leadership of the Estate scraped those plans?



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Reply #19 posted 12/29/22 9:56am

jazzz

lurker316 said:



jazzz said:


That 3rd Sheila E album would have been a great candidate for a cd rerelease by funkytowngrooves/cherryred, with additional tracks: Paradise Gardens The World is High Koo Koo (12" remix) Love on a Blue Train (full version)


The Time's first album got an official remastered and expanded edition release. I assumed that more would come, either more Time albums or a Sheila album.

I'm surprised we've not seen any more. Seems odd that they did just one album. If that had been the plan all along (to do just one album), I figured they would have picked a more commericially successful one, such as Ice Cream Castles or Glamorous Life. Perhaps the plan had been to do more, but the remaster The Time didn't sell well enought? Or perhaps the new leadership of the Estate scraped those plans?





The thing is that I don't care at all for vinyl rereleases. It's a waste of time and (environment unfriendly) materials. Vinyl is not a proper medium for archival releases, since it carries sonic artifacts from the beginning, and develops even more during use.
Even more, I think that the reason for not having a constant flow of SDEs so far is due to the Estate's focus on vinyl. The stuff is expensive and not available at a constant level, which hampers both sales of SDEs and a steady delivery to the customers. This provides no steady foundation for a well-oiled SDE program.
I think if the estate would have focussed from the beginning on SDE consisting of only cds/dvds, we would already also have had the ATWIAD and Parade versions and a bunch of expanded editions of associated artists albums.
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Reply #20 posted 12/29/22 10:49am

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lurker316 said:

The Time's first album got an official remastered and expanded edition release. I assumed that more would come, either more Time albums or a Sheila album.


Yeah, it was remastered on CD in 2015, then remastered and reissued/expanded in 2021 (the red vinyl release).

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Reply #21 posted 12/29/22 1:19pm

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lurker316 said:



The Time's first album got an official remastered and expanded edition release. I assumed that more would come, either more Time albums or a Sheila album.




Yeah, it was remastered on CD in 2015, then remastered and reissued/expanded in 2021 (the red vinyl release).



Yeah, the cd remaster was released in 2015 as limited edition in Japan only. Talking about a fan-friendly rerelease policy. And yeah, it was mastered really loud, see: https://prince.org/msg/5/467116
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