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Prince Wins Glowing Praise From A Tough Critic

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Reply #1 posted 11/08/22 8:03pm

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https://www.youtube.com/w...JbMEO38yXo

This got recommended the other night but I shut it off when he said he doesn't actually own any Prince records all aghast. Zappa just liked a good rant. Captain Beefheart was better anyway,

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Reply #2 posted 11/09/22 1:37am

JorisE73

WhisperingDandelions said:

https://www.youtube.com/w...JbMEO38yXo

This got recommended the other night but I shut it off when he said he doesn't actually own any Prince records all aghast. Zappa just liked a good rant. Captain Beefheart was better anyway,


So just because he said he didn't own a Prince record (Dweezil and Moon, you know, his kids actually did own some of his records and praised him a coule of times on MTV back in the day) you shut it off lol
In the music business you don't have to own a record to be exposed to talent and Zappa knew a load of people in the industry that worked with Prince and the dealings at WB. Wouldn't surprise me Zappa knew more than any of us here about Prince and his creative process and the deals at WB.

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Reply #3 posted 11/09/22 10:05am

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The Prince Speciale , which tv special is that?

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Reply #4 posted 11/11/22 8:55am

rockford

WhisperingDandelions said:

https://www.youtube.com/w...JbMEO38yXo

This got recommended the other night but I shut it off when he said he doesn't actually own any Prince records all aghast. Zappa just liked a good rant. Captain Beefheart was better anyway,

Captain Beefheart may more to your liking, but by any musical metric he is not "better" and couldn't do a fraction of what Zappa accomplished, whether you enjoy it or not.

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Reply #5 posted 11/11/22 8:56am

rockford

WhisperingDandelions said:

https://www.youtube.com/w...JbMEO38yXo

This got recommended the other night but I shut it off when he said he doesn't actually own any Prince records all aghast. Zappa just liked a good rant. Captain Beefheart was better anyway,

That's your loss. Zappa was praising Prince's ability to keep his own vision while working with a major label. He also priased Warner Brothers for allowing Prince to be himself, and Zappa HATED Warner Brothers. Zappa priased Prince's work ethic. Zappa's praise of Prince wasn't related to Prince's music specifically, just that Prince was able to pull it off on his own terms. Owning Prince records is not necessary to praise him for his hard work and ability to get what he wanted.

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Reply #6 posted 11/12/22 3:27am

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rockford said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

https://www.youtube.com/w...JbMEO38yXo

This got recommended the other night but I shut it off when he said he doesn't actually own any Prince records all aghast. Zappa just liked a good rant. Captain Beefheart was better anyway,

That's your loss. Zappa was praising Prince's ability to keep his own vision while working with a major label. He also priased Warner Brothers for allowing Prince to be himself, and Zappa HATED Warner Brothers. Zappa priased Prince's work ethic. Zappa's praise of Prince wasn't related to Prince's music specifically, just that Prince was able to pull it off on his own terms. Owning Prince records is not necessary to praise him for his hard work and ability to get what he wanted.

So it's my "loss" for not wrapping up the final 40 seconds of Zappa's cyclical musings on an artist I've already been sold on for over a decade and a half, but not his loss for never checking out a Prince album? Is that tally about correct?

[Edited 11/12/22 3:38am]

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Reply #7 posted 11/12/22 3:34am

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The mighty Zappa, how dare you intimate he actually should check out a record from the artist we all felt strong enough to register on a website with his namesake in the URL. He is Zappa! He is beyond mere mortal material trappings like albums and records. The insight that could be soaked from his musings on why a shoe has a shoelace is your loss for not basking in.

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Reply #8 posted 11/13/22 12:12am

BlueShakooo

dualboot said:

The Prince Speciale , which tv special is that?


https://princevault.com/i..._June_2011
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Reply #9 posted 11/13/22 5:14am

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BlueShakooo said:

dualboot said:

The Prince Speciale , which tv special is that?

https://princevault.com/index.php?title=27_June_2011


Thanks.

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Reply #10 posted 11/13/22 5:38am

LoveGalore

WhisperingDandelions said:

The mighty Zappa, how dare you intimate he actually should check out a record from the artist we all felt strong enough to register on a website with his namesake in the URL. He is Zappa! He is beyond mere mortal material trappings like albums and records. The insight that could be soaked from his musings on why a shoe has a shoelace is your loss for not basking in.

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Quit being a crybaby. People are allowed to disagree with you, Narcissus.
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Reply #11 posted 11/13/22 3:40pm

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LoveGalore said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

The mighty Zappa, how dare you intimate he actually should check out a record from the artist we all felt strong enough to register on a website with his namesake in the URL. He is Zappa! He is beyond mere mortal material trappings like albums and records. The insight that could be soaked from his musings on why a shoe has a shoelace is your loss for not basking in.

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Quit being a crybaby. People are allowed to disagree with you, Narcissus.

...as you whine while disagreeing w/ my post, k.


Look forward to seeing another quote box mashed mere seconds after my next post, same OCD time, same OCD channel.

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Reply #12 posted 11/13/22 4:55pm

LoveGalore

WhisperingDandelions said:



LoveGalore said:


WhisperingDandelions said:

The mighty Zappa, how dare you intimate he actually should check out a record from the artist we all felt strong enough to register on a website with his namesake in the URL. He is Zappa! He is beyond mere mortal material trappings like albums and records. The insight that could be soaked from his musings on why a shoe has a shoelace is your loss for not basking in.


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Quit being a crybaby. People are allowed to disagree with you, Narcissus.

...as you whine while disagreeing w/ my post, k.



Look forward to seeing another quote box mashed mere seconds after my next post, same OCD time, same OCD channel.



What a claim, given the two posts above are more than a day apart. Waaaah.
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Reply #13 posted 11/13/22 6:37pm

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LoveGalore said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

...as you whine while disagreeing w/ my post, k.


Look forward to seeing another quote box mashed mere seconds after my next post, same OCD time, same OCD channel.

What a claim, given the two posts above are more than a day apart. Waaaah.

What a claim, as you do the same shit now keeping tabs on the GMT with no sense of irony. Dance, puppet, dance.

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Reply #14 posted 11/13/22 7:03pm

LoveGalore

WhisperingDandelions said:



LoveGalore said:


WhisperingDandelions said:


...as you whine while disagreeing w/ my post, k.



Look forward to seeing another quote box mashed mere seconds after my next post, same OCD time, same OCD channel.



What a claim, given the two posts above are more than a day apart. Waaaah.

What a claim, as you do the same shit now keeping tabs on the GMT with no sense of irony. Dance, puppet, dance.



Keeping tabs on a timestamp present on every single post. Oh yes.
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Reply #15 posted 11/29/22 12:39pm

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Meh never cared for critics. He's my all-time favorite recording artist and I had friends and family who couldn't stand his music. Its too subjective

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Reply #16 posted 11/30/22 7:14am

Vannormal

WhisperingDandelions said:

https://www.youtube.com/w...JbMEO38yXo

This got recommended the other night but I shut it off when he said he doesn't actually own any Prince records all aghast. Zappa just liked a good rant. Captain Beefheart was better anyway,

You don't need to have a Prince record to have an interesting (constructive) opinion.

Zapa is just like prince, he ate breathed and lived music every moment of his life.

People like that know what they are talking about.

By the way, Zappa praise dPrince's approach as an artist in a music industry, saying the guy had A plan.

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Talking about owning records...

Did Prince actually had a record collection? ...part from the few CDs he bought right before his death...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #17 posted 12/01/22 1:28pm

CynicKill

Vannormal said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

https://www.youtube.com/w...JbMEO38yXo

This got recommended the other night but I shut it off when he said he doesn't actually own any Prince records all aghast. Zappa just liked a good rant. Captain Beefheart was better anyway,

You don't need to have a Prince record to have an interesting (constructive) opinion.

Zapa is just like prince, he ate breathed and lived music every moment of his life.

People like that know what they are talking about.

By the way, Zappa praise dPrince's approach as an artist in a music industry, saying the guy had A plan.

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Talking about owning records...

Did Prince actually had a record collection? ...part from the few CDs he bought right before his death...

In that photo collection that came out shortly after his death someone close to him is quoted as saying Prince bought anyone he had an opinion of.

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