inspired by this -

https://www.housequake.com/princes-1983-masterpiece/

i dont really think including princes versions of the time and sheila e songs is necessary though. if he was putting out an album in 83, he wouldnt include songs he was giving away to other artists. that makes no sense. he also had plenty of great songs he was working on for himself.

mine would be -

side 1 -
Cant Stop this feeling I got
Teacher Teacher

If itll make u happy

no call u

xtraloveable (prob without the offending part!)
we can fuck (edited)
electric intercourse


side 2 -
do yourself a favour
Girl o my Dreams
wonderful ass
katrinas paper dolls

moonbeam levels
purple music (edited)

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its a weird article, with some very subjective opinions.

housequake seems to pride itself into giving more casual fans a place to write pieces and while the motive is admirable and out of kindness, the result is usually dogshit.

lustmealways said:

housequake seems to pride itself into giving more casual fans a place to write pieces and while the motive is admirable and out of kindness, the result is usually dogshit.

^^^^^THIS
The problem with uninformed, casual fans writing on a legit site is that their opinions become part of lore and believed as the truth.

I'm really tired of this kinda thing. I've paid for books that were more about the fan than Prince and contained nothing but content "stolen" from other legit associates.

laytonian said:

lustmealways said:

housequake seems to pride itself into giving more casual fans a place to write pieces and while the motive is admirable and out of kindness, the result is usually dogshit.

^^^^^THIS
The problem with uninformed, casual fans writing on a legit site is that their opinions become part of lore and believed as the truth.

I'm really tired of this kinda thing. I've paid for books that were more about the fan than Prince and contained nothing but content "stolen" from other legit associates.

I mean, if you're gonna write an article on a Prince site, you can hardly be called "casual", right? Uninformed may be the case, but "casual"?

No way he would release "Do Yourself a Favor" (the other 3 or 4 songs he released without giving full credit by then were not known songs. But this one was.

"We can F" was not recorded until Dec 31/Jan 1 83/84


But who knows. He did mention it in the 1985 Rolling Stones interview.

"I think that’s the problem with the music industry today. When a person does get a hit, they try to do it again the same way. I don’t think I’ve ever done that. I write all the time and cut all the time. I want to show you the archives, where all my old stuff is. There’s tons of music I’ve recorded there. I have the follow-up album to 1999. I could put it all together and play it for you, and you would go “Yeah!” And I could put it out, and it would probably sell what 1999 did. But I always try to do something different and conquer new ground."

ah, i didnt see it was in december, so probably too late for a 1983 album anyway.

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FunkJam said:

laytonian said:

^^^^^THIS
The problem with uninformed, casual fans writing on a legit site is that their opinions become part of lore and believed as the truth.

I'm really tired of this kinda thing. I've paid for books that were more about the fan than Prince and contained nothing but content "stolen" from other legit associates.

I mean, if you're gonna write an article on a Prince site, you can hardly be called "casual", right? Uninformed may be the case, but "casual"?

Casual enough to not know Jill Jones' music, specifically an album that was almost all Prince, written for Jill Jones. Casual enough to not understand that the reason there's no 1983 album is because WB released a double album in the fall of '82, so there wasn't gonna be no album in 1983.

TheBigBang said:

FunkJam said:

I mean, if you're gonna write an article on a Prince site, you can hardly be called "casual", right? Uninformed may be the case, but "casual"?

Casual enough to not know Jill Jones' music, specifically an album that was almost all Prince, written for Jill Jones. Casual enough to not understand that the reason there's no 1983 album is because WB released a double album in the fall of '82, so there wasn't gonna be no album in 1983.

To be fair, the article does explain in fair detail why a 1983 album wouldn't have been likely.
And I haven't listened to Jill Jones yet. Am I casual?

FunkJam said:

TheBigBang said:

Casual enough to not know Jill Jones' music, specifically an album that was almost all Prince, written for Jill Jones. Casual enough to not understand that the reason there's no 1983 album is because WB released a double album in the fall of '82, so there wasn't gonna be no album in 1983.

To be fair, the article does explain in fair detail why a 1983 album wouldn't have been likely.
And I haven't listened to Jill Jones yet. Am I casual?

https://princevault.com/index.php?title=Album:_Jill_Jones

Considering every track was written, produced, arranged and performed (except the leadvocals, and the "With You" cover) by Prince, all during his fan-favorite 1980s "prime" "peak" era........ er, uh, you a fan of Prince the writer, producer, arranger, instrumental performer, or just Prince the-vocalist?

It's like how some fans "don't count" the instrumental albums... like dude could've just had Babyface or Teddy Riley or Dallas Austin write/produce the records at a certain point for some fans...?

Categorize yourself however, but.... it's prime 80s material, why would you not be like.... aren't you at least kind of curious? Just a little? People pine away about the "hidden gems" in The Vault but intentionally bypass the "hidden gems" that have been out since 1987?


"Mia Bocca", "Violet Blue", "All Day, All Night", "My Man" are absolutely Top 50 Prince trax-worthy, regardless.

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[Edited 8/28/22 5:03am]

FunkJam said:

LoveGalore said:

FunkJam said:

To be fair, the article does explain in fair detail why a 1983 album wouldn't have been likely.
And I haven't listened to Jill Jones yet. Am I casual?

Yeah. You're casual. I'm sure it doesn't bother you but yes.

Oh, damn! Gonna have to go soothe myself by listening to Xpectation, or maybe Eric Leed's Times Squared album.

FunkJam said:

LoveGalore said:

FunkJam said:

Oh, damn! Gonna have to go soothe myself by listening to Xpectation, or maybe Eric Leed's Times Squared album.

I mean, it's not a judgement. JJ just isn't a very obscure release. She was a prominent figure in the Paisley universe who received some of his best tracks and who sang on some of his best tracks too. But you can't have your cake and not eat it too and call yourself hardcore. The math doesn't work there.

I'm certainly aware of it. Just haven't been compelled to seek it out yet. But I have heard the other associated acts.
Kinda bizarre though that you would say I'm not "hardcore" for having not heard one associated artist album that is well known when I've knowledge of Xpectation and Times Squared. The logic just doesn't stack up, I'm afraid.

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FunkJam said:

LoveGalore said:

FunkJam said: I mean, it's not a judgement. JJ just isn't a very obscure release. She was a prominent figure in the Paisley universe who received some of his best tracks and who sang on some of his best tracks too. But you can't have your cake and not eat it too and call yourself hardcore. The math doesn't work there.

I'm certainly aware of it. Just haven't been compelled to seek it out yet. But I have heard the other associated acts.
Kinda bizarre though that you would say I'm not "hardcore" for having not heard one associated artist album that is well known when I've knowledge of Xpectation and Times Squared. The logic just doesn't stack up, I'm afraid.

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...How are you not compelled, though? Prime 80s Prince songwriting... Upheld as the peak of his output by a solid 95% of his genuine hardcore fan base where literally every new fan on the world wide Prince web is pelted with "You gotta check out his 80s material first" from the moment they log-on.... and you're like "meh, yeah, whatever, haven't gotten around to it."

What would your reaction be to a fan who was like, "hey, I'm 'bout it 'bout it with Kamasutra, New Power Soul and GCS 2000, but, ehhh, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT... Aware of them, just haven't been compelled to seek them out yet."

More hardcore than prime Mick Foley with the barbed-wire 2x4? Really?

FunkJam said:

LoveGalore said:

FunkJam said:

I'm certainly aware of it. Just haven't been compelled to seek it out yet. But I have heard the other associated acts.
Kinda bizarre though that you would say I'm not "hardcore" for having not heard one associated artist album that is well known when I've knowledge of Xpectation and Times Squared. The logic just doesn't stack up, I'm afraid.

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The logic does stack up, lol. A hardcore fan has heard them all.

Lol. Well, I have heard clips here and there but didn't get excited, so

But I have or have heard Sheila E, Vanity, Apollonia, The Time, The Family, Mazarati, Ingrid Chavez...

The word "hardcore" isn't the most important here, however; it's "casual". In no way does that label make sense.