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Prince charts and sales 2022

Previous topic :

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I couldn't let you without an update on the charts, with the current re-releases of Live in Syracuse and Gold Experience.

Best selling albums in the US so far in 2022, as of week 20 :

Rank Estimated 2022 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales
1 192,000 ENCANTO Soundtrack 209,000
17 65,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,334,000

Last year at week #20, Purple Rain was at this point of the year at #26 with 66.000 copies sold. So this year it's just short of 1000 copies sold.
In 2020, as of week 20 it sold only 31.000 copies.

Also to be noted, Welcome 2 America reached the 100.000 copies sold as of week 16, meaning it sold like 8.000 copies in 2022.
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Reply #1 posted 06/07/22 9:07pm

RODSERLING

According to Hits Daily Double, The Live in Syracuse' is expected to rank at #18 on The Billboard 200 and to sell 19.000 copies, including 16,700 pure sales,

https://m.hitsdailydouble...S-UP-AGAIN

Surely a top ten in the sales charts.
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Reply #2 posted 06/08/22 1:38am

Krid

RODSERLING said:

Previous topic : https://prince.org/msg/7/468329 I couldn't let you without an update on the charts, with the current re-releases of Live in Syracuse and Gold Experience. Best selling albums in the US so far in 2022, as of week 20 : Rank Estimated 2022 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 192,000 ENCANTO Soundtrack 209,000 17 65,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,334,000 Last year at week #20, Purple Rain was at this point of the year at #26 with 66.000 copies sold. So this year it's just short of 1000 copies sold. In 2020, as of week 20 it sold only 31.000 copies. Also to be noted, Welcome 2 America reached the 100.000 copies sold as of week 16, meaning it sold like 8.000 copies in 2022.

I have difficulties understanding the numbers. Surely the number one record of this year (Encanto) must have sold more than 192.000 units?

and also, Purple Rain has sold more than the mentioned 4.5 million records in the US since its release...

Or is this only vinyl? No CDs included? What about streaming?

where did you get these numbers? Billboard?

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Reply #3 posted 06/08/22 4:25pm

RODSERLING

Krid said:



RODSERLING said:


Previous topic : https://prince.org/msg/7/468329 I couldn't let you without an update on the charts, with the current re-releases of Live in Syracuse and Gold Experience. Best selling albums in the US so far in 2022, as of week 20 : Rank Estimated 2022 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 192,000 ENCANTO Soundtrack 209,000 17 65,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,334,000 Last year at week #20, Purple Rain was at this point of the year at #26 with 66.000 copies sold. So this year it's just short of 1000 copies sold. In 2020, as of week 20 it sold only 31.000 copies. Also to be noted, Welcome 2 America reached the 100.000 copies sold as of week 16, meaning it sold like 8.000 copies in 2022.


I have difficulties understanding the numbers. Surely the number one record of this year (Encanto) must have sold more than 192.000 units?



and also, Purple Rain has sold more than the mentioned 4.5 million records in the US since its release...



Or is this only vinyl? No CDs included? What about streaming?



where did you get these numbers? Billboard?






Surely the number one record of this year (Encanto) must have sold more than 192.000 units

No. Welcome to the streaming era. Yeah, it hurts.


Purple Rain has sold more than the mentioned 4.5 million records in the US since its release..

You're right. Purple Rain sold like 17 millions in the US alone.
But the soundscan tracking began only in 1991. So that means that PR sold 4.3 M in the US stores since 1991.
Music club sales weren't tracked neither, even after 1991, and are not even included in these 4.33M.

is this only vinyl? No CDs included?

These numbers are pure sales only, including CDs, audio cassette, vinyls. But no streaming.
PR streaming equivalent sales numbers are about 3k copies a week, so you may consider the album "sold" 130.000 copies as of now.
I m not interested in streaming numbers though.

p>where did you get these numbers?


Ukmix, Billboard, Hits Daily Double
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Reply #4 posted 06/10/22 4:39am

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Wed June 8, 2022, 17:28
Oricon Weekly Physical Album ranking(Japan): Week of 5/30/2022-6/5/2022

20(NEW)1 Prince and the Revolution: Live (2,426)

Only 3 days of sales tracking
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Reply #5 posted 06/12/22 5:32am

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UK Charts

Prince& The Revolution-live

Official Albums Chart Top 100 #21
Official Albums Sales Chart Top 100 #4
Official Physical Albums Chart Top 100 #4
Official Vinyl Albums Chart Top 40 #9
Rnb albums #1

Released on video in 1985, and added on DVD to the 2017 deluxe edition of the Purple Rain soundtrack, Prince & The Revolution: Live is finally available on CD and vinyl in its own right, debuting this week at No.21 (2,465 sales), to give Prince – who died in 2016 but would have been 64 last Tuesday (7) – his 39th Top 75 entry in total. Its physical release, in new remasters, comes exactly two years after it was made available as a standalone digital release, in which format it attracted consumption of just 2,565 units (145 from streaming) hitherto.

Nota bene : the #1 album sales, Harry Styles, sold just 5,400 copies this week.
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Reply #6 posted 06/14/22 12:49pm

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US Billboard Charts (18/06/2022)

Finally missing the Billboard 200 top 20, "Live" Is best new entry of the week in every format. Interestingly, it is also regarded as a catalog album, despite never been charted in the music format- only video charts, back in 1985 !

We'll see if this release cannibalize Purple Rain sales, or if it will benefit from the exposition.

The Billboard 200
22 New 1 Prince And The Revolution: Live ‒ Prince And The Revolution ( 22 )


Top Album Sales
4 NEW 1 Prince And The Revolution: Live - Prince And The Revolution ( 4 )
71 67 214 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution (2)

Catalog Albums
Week of June 18, 2022
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
1 3 2 Hounds Of Love - Kate Bush ( 1 )
2 NEW 1 Prince And The Revolution: Live - Prince And The Revolution ( 2 )


Vinyl Albums
Week of June 18, 2022
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
3 NEW 1 Prince And The Revolution: Live - Prince And The Revolution ( 3 )

Top R&B Albums
3 NEW 1 Prince And The Revolution: Live - Prince And The Revolution ( 3 )
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Reply #7 posted 06/16/22 12:07pm

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Some charts for "Live in Syracuse" :

Australian Albums 96
Austrian Albums 15
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders) 5
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia) 4
Dutch Albums (Album Top 100) 4
German Albums (Offizielle Top 100) 8
Japanese Albums (Oricon) 20
Scottish Albums (OCC) 6
Spanish Albums (PROMUSICAE) 27
Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade) 7
France 29
UK top albums 21
UK top albums sales 4
US Billboard 200 22
US top album sales 4
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Reply #8 posted 06/17/22 5:03am

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Catalog Album Sales Rankings - 2022-06-18
TW LW 2W WKS Title, Artist (Peak)
1 New - 1 Prince And The Revolution: Live, Prince & The Revolution (1)
Highlights for June 18:


Prince & The Revolution's Prince And The Revolution Live tops the catalog sales tally for the week (#4 TAS). It also enters at #2 Catalog. It's the fifth catalog sales chart topper for Prince and the second credited to Prince & The Revolution, along with Purple Rain (Soundtrack). The other Prince #1's are The Very Best Of Prince, Sign 'O' The Times and The Truth. This ties Prince with Grateful Dead and Chris Tomlin for fourth most #1's on catalog sales. The Beatles have eight #1's, with six each for Led Zeppelin and Paul McCartney.

Also, artists with the most top 50 entries in the top catalog album sales charts history :

#1 Prince (30 albums)
#2 Frank Sinatra (29 albums)
#3 The Beatles (28 albums)
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Reply #9 posted 06/17/22 5:38am

RODSERLING

I expect Gold Experience to be big next week on the US charts.
It could well top the album sales charts.

It is indeed the most printed release of that RSD, with 24,150 copies.
The 2nd being Pearl Jam's Live on two legs.

Last year, all of the 13,000 copies of the Truth accounted in the US charts.

There's also the regular CD version, printed for the 1 st time since 1995.

Streaming sales could be higher than usual with the newly available TMBGITW.
[Edited 6/17/22 5:42am]
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Reply #10 posted 06/18/22 11:00pm

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Prince and The Revolution’s ‘Live’ Album Lights up Billboard Charts
BY KEITH CAULFIELD



'Live' is Prince's 33rd top 40-charting album on the Billboard 200 — and the late legend's first live release to reach the chart.

Prince and The Revolution’s newly remixed and remastered archival live album, Prince and The Revolution: Live, makes a splash across Billboard’s charts as it debuts in the top five on Top Album Sales, Top R&B Albums, Catalog Albums, Tastemaker Albums and Vinyl Albums (all dated June 18). It also bows at No. 11 on Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums and No. 22 on the all-genre Billboard 200 chart. The revamped version of the album was released on June 3 via NPG/Legacy.

Prince and the Revolution: Live is the highest-charting live album on Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums in nearly three years, since Lionel Richie’s Hello From Las Vegas debuted and peaked at No. 2 on the Aug. 31, 2019, chart. Over on the Billboard 200, Live is Prince’s 33rd top 40-charting album — and the late legend’s first live release to reach the chart.

The Live album earned 17,000 equivalent album units in the U.S. in the week ending June 9, according to Luminate. Album sales comprise nearly all of that sum.

The album was recorded at the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, N.Y., on March 30, 1985, as part of the Purple Rain Tour and was initially commercially released on VHS tape as a home video that year as Prince and The Revolution Live. The home video release spent nine weeks at No. 1 on Billboard’s Music Video Sales chart. It also garnered a Grammy Award nomination for best music video, long form.

Of the nearly 17,000 copies sold of Prince and The Revolution: Live, physical sales comprise 15,000 (8,000 on vinyl and 7,000 on CD) and digital sales comprise 2,000.
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Reply #11 posted 06/21/22 12:37pm

RODSERLING

Charts are not out yet, but Gold Experience is #15 in the midweek top album in the UK, and #10 in Japan.

Just to give you am idea. Sounds like better numbers than for Live at Syracuse.
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Reply #12 posted 06/21/22 2:06pm

FrankieCoco1

RODSERLING said:

Charts are not out yet, but Gold Experience is #15 in the midweek top album in the UK, and #10 in Japan.

Just to give you am idea. Sounds like better numbers than for Live at Syracuse.


Estate have sold more than 50 of the vinyl in the last few hours (<300 now available on their web store).
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #13 posted 06/21/22 3:18pm

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US Billboard Charts (25/06/2022)

"Live" Out of the Billboard 200,did generate some hype for Purple Rain though.

Top Album Sales

21 4 2 Prince And The Revolution: Live - Prince And The Revolution ( 4 )
50 71 215 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution ( 2 )

Some charts for "Live in Syracuse" 2nd week :


Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders) 5-17
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia) 4-29
Dutch Albums (Album Top 100) 4
German Albums (Offizielle Top 100) 8
Japanese Albums (Oricon) 20-54 ( total : 3,095)
Scottish Albums (OCC) 6
Spanish Albums (PROMUSICAE) 27
Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade) 7-22
France 29-108
UK top albums 21-out
UK top albums sales 4-86
US Billboard 200 22-out
US top album sales 4-21

Nothing extraordinary, really. Makes you again wonder what was the point of that release.

Gold could well be the real shit for Prince this year.
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Reply #14 posted 06/26/22 4:09pm

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Oricon Weekly Physical Album ranking(Japan): Week of 6/13/2022-6/19/2022

33(NEW)1 The Gold Experience(1,026)
80(54)3 Prince and the Revolution: Live (430/3,525)

The Gold Experience previously sold 53,000 copies during its initial chartrun in 1995.
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Reply #15 posted 06/28/22 3:45pm

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UK Official Charts, dated 24 June 2022

Top 100 albums


#46 new The Gold Experience (2, 178 copies)
Comsidered as a new release, despite having charted 12 weeks back in 1995/96.

4-11-23-40-62 ( out 6 weeks) -91-79-76-81-92-88-85
This week is in fact Gold's 5 th best rank ever in the top album!

Top album sales

9 New THE GOLD EXPERIENCE PRINCE
91 86 PRINCE AND THE REVOLUTION - LIVE PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION


Official Vinyl Albums Chart Top 40
6 New THE GOLD EXPERIENCE PRINCE

Official Hip Hop and R&B Albums Chart Top 40

1 New THE GOLD EXPERIENCE PRINCE
4 3 PRINCE AND THE REVOLUTION - LIVE

As Live was also #1 on the rnb/hip hop charts, that makes already two Prince' albums to top these charts this year
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Reply #16 posted 06/28/22 10:08pm

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US Billboard Charts (02/07/2022)


A comeback for Gold Experience, that is not as impressive as was The Truth' last year, which was the #1 on vinyl and RSD.
The performance is really disappointing, since The Truth was printed at 13,000 copies, against the 24,150 copies for Gold. 😤

It was in fact the biggest printing for this RSD, ahead of Pearl's Jam Live On Two Legs (22, 000). Still, Live On Two Legs sold better! 😱


The Billboard 200

TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
47 ReEntry 9 The Gold Experience ‒ The Artist (Formerly Known As Prince) ( 6 )

Top Album Sales
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )

4 Re-Entry 16 Live On Two Legs - Pearl Jam ( 4 )
5 Re-Entry 9 The Gold Experience - The Artist (Formerly Known As Prince) ( 5
61 50 216 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution ( 2 )


Catalog Albums

Vinyl Albums

TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
1 NEW 1 Live On Two Legs - Pearl Jam ( 1 )
2 NEW 1 A Light For Attracting Attention - The Smile ( 2 )
3 1 5 Harry's House - Harry Styles ( 1 )
4 NEW 1 The Gold Experience - The Artist (Formerly Known As Prince) ( 4 )
73 21 3 Prince And The Revolution: Live - Prince And The Revolution ( 4 )

Tastemaker Albums

TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
1 NEW 1 Live On Two Legs - Pearl Jam ( 1 )
2 NEW 1 The Gold Experience - The Artist (Formerly Known As Prince) ( 2 )


Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

23 Re-Entry 18 The Gold Experience - The Artist (Formerly Known As Prince) ( 2 )
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Reply #17 posted 06/30/22 2:31am

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The Gold Experience sold a reported 14,000 copies in the USA in its first week of re-release,according to Billboard.
Pearl Jam's RDS sold 16,000.
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Reply #18 posted 06/30/22 4:11pm

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Oricon Weekly Physical Album ranking(Japan): Week of 6/20/2022-6/26/2022


136(33)2 The Gold Experience(315/1,341)
110(80)4 Prince and the Revolution: Live (410/3,935)
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Reply #19 posted 06/30/22 4:19pm

SoulAlive

May be an image of text that says 'billboard CHARTS #4 Vinyl #5 TopAlbum #10 Catalog Album #47 Top Top200 200'

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Reply #20 posted 06/30/22 10:02pm

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Live in Syracuse


Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders) 5-17-34
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia) 4-29-78
Dutch Albums (Album Top 100) 4
German Albums (Offizielle Top 100) 8
Japanese Albums (Oricon) 20-54 ( total : 3,095)
Portuguese Albums : 16-44
Scottish Albums (OCC) 6-out
Scottish physical : 4-85-out
Spanish Albums (PROMUSICAE) 27
Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade) 7-22-out
France 29-109-176
UK top albums 21-out
UK top albums sales 4-86-91
US Billboard 200 22-out
US top album sales 4-21-73
[Edited 6/30/22 22:14pm]
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Reply #21 posted 07/03/22 9:34am

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Billboard US Catalog Album Sales Rankings - 2022-07-02


TW LW 2W WKS Title, Artist (Peak)
1 New - 1 Live On Two Legs, Pearl Jam (1)
2 New - 1 The Gold Experience, The Artist (Prince) (2)
34 21 32 308 Purple Rain (Soundtrack), Prince & The Revolution (1)
40 6 1 3 Prince And The Revolution: Live, Prince & The Revolution (1)

Gold Experience is Prince'18th top ten in the Catalog Sales Charts.
It's also his 31th entry in that top 50 charts, more than any other artist ( 2nd on that list, Frank Sinatra has 29).

The Gold Experience reissue :



Dutch Albums (Album Top 100) 11 (originally peaked at #3)
Japanese Albums (Oricon) 33
Scottish Albums (OCC) 10
Irish Albums 86
Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade) 21 (originally peaked at #7)
UK top albums 46-out
UK top albums sales 9-out
UK top rnb albums : 1-18

US Billboard 200 47
US top album sales 5
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Reply #22 posted 07/03/22 5:45pm

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#47 re-entry on Billboard Top 200 is rathe rimpressive since it contains no extra material. I'm sure the LP had a lot to do with that tho

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Reply #23 posted 07/04/22 12:05am

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homesquid said:

#47 re-entry on Billboard Top 200 is rathe rimpressive since it contains no extra material. I'm sure the LP had a lot to do with that tho



Of course it's mainly the RSD release that pushed that numbers.
What is sad is that these re-releases in fact never make publicity for the hits on it and never make the streaming up.

It could be a top 5 in sales, but nobody else cares, and the following week it's already out of the charts.
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Reply #24 posted 07/05/22 8:38am

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It is cool that he is charting but it is on sale numbers alone which these numbers 20 years ago would be embarrasing.

The problem is the younger generation, for now, get their music by streaming and the streaming numbers are way low, which shows a new generation of fans are not finding him, and that goes solely on the estate. You can't give yourself props for these numbers when it is the hardcore only buying it. Comerica cannot be gone fast enough...

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Reply #25 posted 07/07/22 12:40am

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US Billboard Charts (09/07/2022)

Top Album Sales:


92(5)10 The Gold Experience


The Gold Experience save the honor this week in the US.
Syracuse is already out after only 3 weeks, and even Purple Rain is out after years of consecutive charting!
A few months ago it was charting most of the time in the top 20 ! What happened? Not even copies printed/available on stores?

Complete shame in France : Gold reissue has not charted in the top 200 albums (!)
It would have been its first entry in France, since the album when originally released in 1995, never charted there.
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Reply #26 posted 07/08/22 5:16pm

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US Catalog Album Sales Rankings - 2022-07-09

TW LW 2W WKS Title, Artist (Peak)
41 2 - 2 The Gold Experience, The Artist (Prince) (2)

Out :
34 21 308 Purple Rain (Soundtrack), Prince & The Revolution (1)
40 6 3 Prince And The Revolution: Live, Prince & The Revolution (1)

Prince & The Revolution's Purple Rain (Soundtrack) leaves the Top Album Sales chart after a 94 week run, the third longest run at the time by a catalog album. The longer current runs on catalog sales belong to The Beatles' Abbey Road at 212 weeks and Kendrick Lamar's good kid, m.A.A.d city at 111 weeks. Following them is now Fleetwood Mac's Rumours with 71 weeks.

Again, what happened?
I just hope the current legal battle doesn't prevent the estate to print new copies of the Prince catalogue.
Or maybe the Syracuse live cannibalized the declining sales of Purple Rain.

I m afraid next week would be for the first time since his death, a week without any Prince album on any of the sales charts. Ouch

Apparently, the deal the estate signed with Netflix prevents them to release any new video material, hence the cancellation of the SDEs.
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Reply #27 posted 07/08/22 7:10pm

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I m afraid next week would be for the first time since his death, a week without any Prince album on any of the sales charts.

I think that's pretty good if you asked me. He's broken quite a few chart records but Sooner or later, he'll be back on the charts. It's Prince after all.

As for the Netflix thing, is that really true?

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Reply #28 posted 07/08/22 11:05pm

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Milty2 said:



RODSERLING said:


I m afraid next week would be for the first time since his death, a week without any Prince album on any of the sales charts.

I think that's pretty good if you asked me. He's broken quite a few chart records but Sooner or later, he'll be back on the charts. It's Prince after all.



As for the Netflix thing, is that really true?

[Edited 7/8/22 19:11pm]



It's what people who claim they are in the know say.
That would explain why WB opted to not release D&P or Parade last year.
That would explain why Sony re-released Syracuse.

But sstill doesn't explain why they didn't release Originals 2, or Camille, or even the NPGMC albums, etc.
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Reply #29 posted 07/09/22 12:11am

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Idea for the Estate : because of the Netflix deal, this year would be the perfect year to release an Originals Boxset.

We still could have it just before Christmas.
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