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Prince charts and sales 2021/2022 Part 1 : https://prince.org/msg/7/466493?&pg=1
Part 2 : https://prince.org/msg/7/467440 Part 3 : https://prince.org/msg/7/467440 Part 4 : https://prince.org/msg/7/467904 Worldwide charts and sales for Welcome 2 America : Australia : 5-37-out! Physical album sales : 2-7-8-16-41-51-44-50-out ! Austria : 3-17-36-58-out! Belgium ( Flanders) : 2-3-10-21-28-108-104-119-101-141-out for 12 weeks- 142 Year-end charts : #161 Belgium : (Wallonia) : 2-23-25-35-99-139-out! Canada : 26-out Top sales : 2-19-out? Czech : 92-out Denmark : 12-out Vinyl charts : 2-7-14-out? Netherlands : 2-12-29-96-80-out ! Finland : 27-out ! France : 4 (4,900)-39 (1,500+)-68(1, 100)-83 (1, 000)-102 (850) -132 (700)-184 (650).-out! Total : 11,000 including 3,000 SDE Deutschland : 3-15-17-60-83-out! Ireland : 25-out! Italy : 26-out! Physical : 9-9-49-out-46 Japan : 10 (6,373)-31 (1, 539)-51 (553)-84 (533) -33 (1, 540) -114 (357)-118 (384)- 271 (159)-out! Total : 12,500, including 11,787 physical sales. Norway : 39-out! Poland : 42-out! Portugal : 2-6-5-19-16-19-out-21-out-35-out Scotland : 3 -17-out? Spain : 7-out ! Vinyls charts : 2-4-16-23-33-64-83-75-74-out? Swedien : 53-out? Switzerland : 2-4-13-31-33-57-78-out (3weeks) -91-out! Year-end charts : #93 UK Albums : 5 (6,034)- 111 (1,081)-out. Estimated total : 10,000. UK album physical sales : 3-14-31-73-99-out ! US Billboard 200 : 4 (57k)-113-out! US Top sales : 2 (50k)-7 (9k)-16 (5k)-12 (5k)-32 (3k)-44 (2k)-67 (2k)-82 (2k)--out. US Top Current sales : 2-6-7-11-22-25-40-47-57-65-69-83-98-out for 7 weeks-86 (2k) -58(4k) - 82(2k)- out ( total : 16 weeks) Total Sales: 98,000 Total sales + streaming : 110,000 Wales : 2-18-39-out-100-60 Worlwide sales : 220,000 [Edited 12/25/21 9:06am] [Edited 12/29/21 6:07am] [Edited 12/30/21 21:57pm] [Edited 1/2/22 5:05am] [Edited 1/5/22 19:58pm] [Edited 1/8/22 5:37am] [Edited 1/8/22 5:38am] [Edited 1/8/22 8:08am] [Edited 1/8/22 8:15am] [Edited 1/31/22 12:11pm] [Edited 2/1/22 20:58pm] [Edited 2/2/22 8:42am] |
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An old friend ( for sales?) is coming back this week on the US charts.
Which is very surprising, considering this is an hyper competitive week. Was this album promoted or on sales somewhere? US Billboard Charts (25/12/2021) Top Album Sales TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 28 37 189 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince Top Current Album Sales TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 86 Re-Entry 14 Welcome 2 America - Prince ( 2 ) [Edited 12/24/21 6:38am] |
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Probably people buying gifts for friends that were fans and maybe they figure they dont have it. I have seen this featured on "gift ideas" in a bunch of Barnes and Noble locations so Im guessing other places like Target are doing similar things, sometimes a label will request front placement in ads, better get whatever they can on sales now during these two weeks or so. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 50
Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 1,213,000 30 Adele 1,213,000 2 553,000 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 553,000 3 505,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 787,000 4 502,000 SOUR Olivia Rodrigo 502,000 18 198,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,243,000 79 90,000 WELCOME 2 AMERICA Prince 90,000 ??? 19,000 THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE Prince 2,956,000 ??? 13,000 THE TRUTH Prince 13,000 Charts facts : 1. Welcome 2 America crossed this week the 100k "copies" (90k pure sales + 10k equivalent streaming sales) 2.Of course, Purple Rain is on its way to reach the 200k mark in pure sales next week. The album currently stands at 339k copies this year (198k pure sales + 141k streaming equivalent sales) 3.Last year, the whole Prince catalogue sold a total in the US of 320k copies. Now, as of week 50 only, Prince reaches that number...with only the 4 albums displayed here! 4. Just showing how this year was exceptional in sales : Last year, only 2 albums reached the 500k mark. As of week 50, there's already 4, and a 5th in the making. [Edited 12/25/21 7:17am] |
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"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Another huge week for Prince, during what is the most competitive week of the year. W2A has incredible legs, considering there was zero promotion since the day of release. Not even an award nomination! US Billboard Charts (01/01/2022) Top Current Album Sales TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 58 86 15 Welcome 2 America - Prince ( 2 ) The Billboard 200 TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 68 144 159 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) ‒ Prince And The Revolution ( 1 ) Top Album Sales TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 15 28 190 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution |
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Wow, awesome! Thanks Rod! | |
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ALBUM SALES WEEK 51 17 213,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,258,000 81 94,000 WELCOME 2 AMERICA Prince 94,000 As for his mentors. 83 90,000 KIND OF BLUE Miles Davis 3,894,000 92 84,000 ARE YOU EXPERIENCED Jimi Hendrix Experience 495,000 | |
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Wow, 15k for Purple Rain and 4k for W2A!
That's huge. Let's hope W2A will have a decrease in price in January, as every other albums normally have a few months after release. It seems that the estate releases ( Originals, Piano amd Mic) never were sold cheaper than the original price, which hurts catalogue sales. W2A is the #25 best selling album released that year, without amy kind of promotion since day one, and got no awards nominations. With just a little push ( cheap lyrics/archival music videos, tv performance from the vocal trio with the original musicians, they could have sold 200k copies. They could have also done a tour focused on the album, it would have made money. [Edited 12/30/21 12:59pm] |
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Funny : The Truth is #1 ! It's the most purchased album by Discogs members in 2021. Meaning is still the most sought-artist for music collectors. https://blog.discogs.com/...s-in-2021/ A few years ago, Prince had the most expensive album on the Internet, with the Black Album. |
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Welcome 2 America is the 93th best selling album of the year 2021 in Switzerland. It peaked at #2 and stayed on the charts for 8 weeks. As an aside note, it seems W2A didn't make the best albums lists in the likes of NME, Rolling Stones, etc. despite good reviews when released and good sales. Really unfair. |
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Welcome 2 America is the 50th best selling album (CD/vinyl) of 2021 in Amazon. Com. It regards apparently only the single CD/ 2 LP version. |
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Sorry about my post In the Truth discogs, I really happy actually because i really like that album. Im getting too cynical in my old age. My apologies to the poster. |
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antonb said: Sorry about my post In the Truth discogs, I really happy actually because i really like that album. Im getting too cynical in my old age. My apologies to the poster. You're welcome! I never listened to The Truth in its entirety😱. I tried a few times like 15 years ago, but I was bored mid-course. Since I don't have Crystal Ball, I was very interested in a reissue on CD ( with Kamasutra, but it's unlikely it will happen. And they don't have the rights for Kamasutra anyway. Spending 45 bucks for the vinyl of The Truth is too far-stretched for me. I guess if I found it on a wreckastore, I would have bought it though. Too bad they printed only 13k copies worldwide. But that's what made it a success in the Record Store Day. For the next RCS, I think they will print more copies (my bet is on a NPGMC album such as Chocolate Invasion). Vinyls are selling more and more, so that's likely. |
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Fingers crossed for the Camille Album on RSD. But your probably rignt about the NPGMC.
THanks for what you do! I alway enjoy your post. | |
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cooldayla said:
Fingers crossed for the Camille Album on RSD. But your probably rignt about the NPGMC.
THanks for what you do! I alway enjoy your post. Thanks a lot! 😀 I don't think they will do Camille, since it wasn't released before, it must be on a juridical limbo. Even a completed album such as Undertaker release seems unlikely, because : who owns it? The best selling reissue of Sony Legacy was The Versace Experience, simply because it was never released before. It seems Sony was able to release it to compensate for the impossibility to release Gold Experience. Instead of the ONA box set, which sold poorly, they should have released an NPGMC box set, since it was never available in stores before. |
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Last Week of the year! What an incredible one. US Billboard Charts (08/01/2022) The Billboard 200 TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 145 68 160 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) ‒ Prince ( 1 ) Top Album Sales TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 31 15 191 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution Top Current Album Sales 82 58 16 Welcome 2 America - Prince ( 2 |
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Belgium (Flanders) Christmas'miracle. After nearly 3 months of exiting the Top 200 album, Welcome 2 America reenters the charts dated 25/12/2021 at #142! 2-3-10-21-28-108-104-119-101-141-out 12 for 12 weeks- 142. This allows W2A to be the 161th best selling album of 2022 in this part of the country. |
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Purple Rain is the 7th best selling album in vinyl in the US with 208,000 copies sold, according to Hits Daily Double. Last year, Purple Rain sold 98k in vinyls out of the 115k total, that is to say 85%. Now it's 94%. How poorly just sell the SDE, only released in CD. Adele's 30 is #1 with only 319k copies. It sold 41,717,000 vinyls in 2021 in the US, a 40% increase from 2020 (27, 519,000)! In the UK, 5.3 millions of vinyls sold last year. #1 was Voyage with 40k copies. Purple Rain is NOT in the top 50  |
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Here we are, week 52 !
"So it seems like this year, Purple Rain could sell like 200.000 copies, which seems unbelievable" These words were written by me on the 1st post of the 1st 2021's sales topic ( link on the opening post) ! And yet, this April's 2021 prophecy eventually fulfilled itself. This year was indeed unbelievable in term of sales. 5 albums could be certified Gold or Platinum by their sales only! Week 52, Best selling albums of 2021 in the US Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 1,464,000 30 Adele 1,464,000 2 621,000 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 621,000 3 557,000 SOUR Olivia Rodrigo 557,000 4 529,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 812,000 5 521,000 FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 521,000 17 223,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,268,000 81 96,000 WELCOME 2 AMERICA Prince 96,000 ??? 20,000 THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE Prince 2,957,000 ??? 13,000 The Truh More info later on Prince'achiements this year. [Edited 1/7/22 16:20pm] |
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Some achievements by Prince in the US in 2021.
Prince sold a total of 250k albums in 2019 and 320k in 2020. This year, with only 2 albums, Purple Rain and Welcome 2 America, Prince achieves 319k sales! Purple Rain charts facts : - From the 223k copies sold, 208k were actually in the vinyl format. Meaning the SDE is really selling like shit. - It sold 108k more copies than in 2020, an increase of 94% ! - It beats his most famous'rival, MJ's Thriller (187k) - The #6 best selling catalogue album of the year - With only 376k SPS sales ( pure sales + equivalent streaming sales), Purple Rain streaming numbers are awful. To compare with, Thriller has 519k SPS! Welcome 3/2 America charts fact : - With 50k copies sold the 1st week, it almost doubled its sales in 5 months. - The #27 best week of the year in term of sales with 50k copies sold - The #26 best selling album released in 2021. - It beats a number of huge and highly promoted releases, which had radio hits, huge streaming, music videos, etc. Everything W2A hadn't! - The Weekend's Highlights (94k) - Coldplay's Music of the Sphere (76k) - Drake's Certified Lover Boy (68k) - Kanye West's Donda (53k) - Last but not least, it sold three times more than Elton John's Lockdown, which had two #1 hits Worldwide! [Edited 1/9/22 6:44am] [Edited 1/9/22 6:45am] [Edited 1/10/22 4:46am] [Edited 1/12/22 4:54am] |
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Given the more than decent sales of W2A, do you reckon Sony might be more prepared to work with the estate on similar stand alone releases, rather than potentially messy collaborations with Warners on non-soundtrack Super Deluxes? There may or may not be something coming! |
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FrankieCoco1 said: Given the more than decent sales of W2A, do you reckon Sony might be more prepared to work with the estate on similar stand alone releases, rather than potentially messy collaborations with Warners on non-soundtrack Super Deluxes?
I don't think there's much unreleased albums left in the vault. Not as current, and not with a same strong story. The best opportunity I can see, is to release the last Piano and Mic shows. If they can find the best date on the tour + the very last show recorded professionally in audio and video, it could be a hit. But does it really exist? The last show was at least recorded professionally : https://princevault.com/i...Microphone But was it filmed? [Edited 1/9/22 19:32pm] |
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I couldn't close this year 2021 5-parts thread without giving my estimations of what Prince sold in the US in 2021. . For a reminder : 2019 : 250K 2020 : 320k (including 115k of Purple Rain) . Here is the countdown : .
WB catalogue : PURPLE RAIN: 223k THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE : 20k SOTT and 1999 : 10k each The greatest hits : an average of 5k each ( The Hits 1, 2, 3, Ultimate, 4EVER, Originals) Big albums : an average of 5k each (Prince, ATWIAD, Parade) Dirty Mind,Controversy : 3k each For You, Lovesexy, Graffiti Bridge, D&P, Lovesymbol, Piano and Mic, AOA : 1K each Total : 321k . Thanks to Purple Rain, WB's catalogue already explodes Prince's total last year' sales. . Sony Legacy catalogue : WELCOME 2 AMERICA : 96k The Truth : 13k Versace Experience : 1k 3121, Musicology, Planet Earth, Rave box set, RaveIn2, RaveUn2, Emancipation, Chaos and Disorder, ONA boxset, ONA piano, ONA live, It ain't over yet : 500 copies each. Total : 116k . . Conclusion : With WB + Sony Prince sold 437k in the US in 2021. [Edited 1/19/22 9:18am] |
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Purple Rain moves from 185 back up to 171 on this week's Billboard 200 (for the week ending January 22) in its 162nd week on the chart. Surprisingly, it is not his longest-charted album; 1999 has a total of 163 weeks on the BB200. So if PR charts just two more weeks (which it undoubtedly will, even if it falls off for a bit before then) it will finally become his longest-charting album. In another minor milestone this week, he logs a 100th total week on the Artist 100 chart. This chart was created in 2014, and Prince reached number one there in 2016 after his passing. [Edited 1/19/22 16:49pm] [Edited 1/19/22 16:51pm] |
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What can be expected for 2022 in term of sales ? Purple Rain sold exceptionnally well last year. In fact,in the last 6 years Purple Rain sold an impressive 1,2 millions copies in pure sales ! That album begins to be an oversaturated market. 2016 : 496k 2017 : 171k 2018 : 98k 2019 : 92k 2020 : 115k 2021 : 223k . 2021 was an exceptionnal year : for the first time in 17 years, the physical market is not shrinking, but in full increase ! But that was mostly thanks to the vinyl craze. Logically, what was expected was to have the vinyl prices decrease progressively because of a larger amount produced. Then, the lower prices would have allowed to an even bigger increase in sales.
Sadly, that’s the exact opposite happening : since the lack of raw materials, investment in plants and covid, vinyls price has been increased dramatically. Logically, I think 2022 will be the first year of decrease in sales for this format since like 15 years. Purple Rain will be of course impacted, and I expect his sales to be "only" around 175k this year.
For the first two weeks of the year in the US Billboard top album sales, the album still hold up well. . Top Album Sales . Week of January 15, 2022 31 31 192 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution . Week of January 22, 2022 21 31 193 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution ( 2 ) . Welcome 2 AMERICA is out of the top current album charts (total 16 non consecutives weeks). [Edited 1/19/22 23:06pm] [Edited 1/19/22 23:27pm] |
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US Billboard Charts (29/01/2022)
. Top Album Sales TW LW WOC Title Artist 29 21 194 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince . As I predicted a few weeks ago, the physical market is shrinking again (-14% from last year at the same time) after an incredible year 2021. Sure some vinyls sales are still impressive : Adele sold in the US alone more than 300.000 copies of her "30" 2LP from a 500.000 shipment. . But the insane high price is, I think, killing the market. [Edited 1/31/22 12:11pm] [Edited 2/1/22 21:57pm] |
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US Billboard Charts (05/02/2022) . Top Album Sales TW LW WOC Title Artist 20 29 195 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Princep 114 118 14 The Lockdown Sessions ‒ Elton John ( 10 ) . Vinyl Albums Week of February 5, 2022 TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 6 10 240 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution ( 1 ) . Billboard Global 200 TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) 3 3 24 Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) ‒ Elton John & Dua Lipa ( 3 ) . Radio Songs TW LW WOC Title Artist 9 8 17 Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) - Elton John & Dua Lipa ( 7 ) . Billboard Hot 100 TW LW WOC Title Artist 10 9 21 Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) ‒ Elton John & Dua Lipa ( 21 ) . Incredible week for Purple Rain, which makes the top 20 in top album sales again. But look at how the charts are all disconnected from reality ( reality, which is mostly composed now of vinyls!) : Purple Rain, despite #20 on sales, has not enough points to appear in the Billboard 200 ( sales + streaming). PR'streaming is about 3000 equivalent sales a week, but its pure sales are now so weak in terms of numbers, that it's not enough for it to be on THE most important charts, the one in which commentators are mostly looking at ( which means nothing to me though). . Now, look at the Lockdown Sessions, the last album of Elton John. Despite containing one US and worldwide hit, with huge exposition on the radio, etc. it sold poorly in the US ( in the 30k copies). It sold in fact three times less than Welcome 2 America, which had ZERO promotion. To be fair, the Lockdown Sessions sold 105k copies in the UK alone though( sales+ streaming). [Edited 2/1/22 21:44pm] |
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thanks. [Edited 2/2/22 3:11am] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Now that the Do Me Baby single is officially released, sadly it won't make the charts in the US, and logically nowhere else since it is shipped from the Prince Store, which is located in the US. There's no physical singles sales charts since December of 2017. . With 1981 copies sold in cassettes and surely three times this number in vinyl, all formats sold out, it would have made #1 for sure. . Too bad there's no combining sales with the digital sales charts. That would be a good idea to combine physical + sales charts, since the digital sales is also a dying format, amd the numbers in 2021 were low. . Again, one can question the opportunity to release that single without any album related to it, such as a Controversy SDE. It reminds me of the Nothing Compares 2 U single, released one freaking year before Originals, without a bang. It would have made more impact amd publicity as a lead single for Originals, instead of just throwing it all away. So they released Originals with Manic Monday, not as interesting for alarge audience. |
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