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Bond. Prince Bond. I have a Tina Turner playlist on my iPhone that I shuffle when I'm sewing. "Golden Eye" is in there (the longer version from the US edition of Wildest Dreams). Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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As much as I would love for him to have done a Bond theme, I kinda think he would let himself get in his own way. Prince was really really good when he was speaking from his own perspective and viewpoint but I think he faltered when he tried to put himself in other people's shoes. Consensus on the Batman album is that it is the weakest of the decade and I'd agree with that - most of those songs were reworked things he was already considering for his own release, but then forced through the lens of a story that only loosely fit the soundtrack itself. Can you imagine Prince being able to pull off something as epic, thematically versatile, but also relevant to the story as "The World Is Not Enough"? I dunno. I'm skeptical. It reminds me of Amy Winehouse and how she bungled her chance to have a Bond theme by similarly not being able to transfer her artistic vision seamlessly into an already-established context. | |
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Well Winehouse was a drunk. And although Prince was addicted to drugs, he got work done. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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Sheesh....you make it sound like he addicted to drugs for just for kicks. | |
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eye could see the live undertaker guitar jam being a theme song for a bond movie called the undertaker ... p could easily put a bond theme flourish over the two note crawl that anchors the song .. other songs from that era such as days of wild and the ride would work well in club scenes .. | |
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Milty2 said:
Sheesh....you make it sound like he addicted to drugs for just for kicks. Sometimes the truth hurts. Prince was a drug addict. Amy Winehouse was an alcoholic and drug addict. I don't think Prince's choices that led to his drug addiction are anymore valorous than Amy's choices that led to her addictions. They both were in some serious pain and clearly lingered in ambivalence long enough that it killed them both. Horrible, painful, shameful accidental deaths. But that also isn't the point of this thread, which is the Bond theme. Steering back to that, I still think Prince wasn't really able to perform at his best when he was at the mercy of someone else's direction or when he was trying to blend his vision with theirs. Take a look at any of his so called collaborations, which were basically Prince robbing the original artist of their own POV in favor of his while also kinda coming across as tone deaf. "Why Should I Love You", "Waiting Room" spring to mind as does "Emotional Pump" and "By Alien Means." | |
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On paper, I think Prince would have been a horrible choice to do a Bond song. Then again, had I been alive in 1989, I would have thought he'd have been a horrible choice to do the Batman soundtrack and aside from a couple of stinkers, that album turned out well enough and Partyman and Trust really fit the Joker character. Also, I would have thought that U2 would be a horrible choice for just about anything and yet, Bono and The Edge wrote GoldenEye, the best Bond song by far. To make a long story short, I haven't got a clue | |
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I can see for a future Bond film the song 'Vicki Waiting' used as the theme tune - with P's vocals digitally altered to sound like Shirley Bassey. In the film Bond is too busy killing bad guys and getting off with other women to remember Vicki exists. So she is kept waiting. The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
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I always thought "In A Large Room With No Light" should have been a Bond song. NPG Radio:
https://open.spotify.com/...63VlWY6m1A | |
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BlueShakooo said: I always thought "In A Large Room With No Light" should have been a Bond song. ...have you ever heard any of the Bond songs? lol. | |
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LoveGalore said: BlueShakooo said: I always thought "In A Large Room With No Light" should have been a Bond song. ...have you ever heard any of the Bond songs? lol. No, never. NPG Radio:
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BlueShakooo said: LoveGalore said: ...have you ever heard any of the Bond songs? lol. No, never. Well, they're supposed to be big epic anthem songs like Strays of the World. IALRWNL is a bit too bouncy and whatnot, no? | |
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Milty2 said:
I don't think anyone here has said Prince was a drug addict for fun. That's your own narrative. Folks can mention his drug addiction without the need for others to come to his defense. Everybody here loves Prince regardless of his struggles. Edit to add: Amy Winehouse wasn't an addict for fun either and she also sought help multiple times. [Edited 5/16/22 5:16am] | |
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No narrative building on my part. I have a couple of friends who have struggled with terrible addiction and sometimes it's not as easy as just saying "so and so was a drug addict". You didn't say that but yeah I just don't like people tossing off those kinds of comments in particular of Prince. | |
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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Prince writing an orchestra score consists of him playing a melody and sometimes bassline on his keyboard and paying Clare Fischer do the actual work to make it sound interesting. Prince could not and did not "write scores" for any orchestra. | |
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David Friedlander, who worked as an engineer at Paisley Park at the time of the Batman album, has said “it was his music, not necessarily an orchestral score but music written for the movie by him. It included the Batman record but there were additional songs as well. For instance “the future” in the movie you hear it in a car driving by for 3 seconds. The song was written for the whole scene. My fave was the finale in the clock tower which Prince wrote “dance with the devil in the pale moonlight” they really screwed up not using that one!” He also has said, “Those of us who got to see the movie w Princes score were caught off guard and frankly bummed out as to how little Tim chose to use. Prince’s score of Batman was amazing and I wish that they would rerelease the movie with it for the Prince fans that never got to see/hear it.” But that’s Batman. Not heard anything about Prince being asked to do James Bond music. There may or may not be something coming! | |
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One song that comes to mind is Alexa de Paris. That has the feel of Bond, I think. I can imagine him singing to it. Another Lonely Christmas with new lyrics might work. (Not that you would do that to the song, but the grandiose style would fit, I think.) The opening to Shhh. Maybe the whole song, with new lyrics. Anna Stesia, tho it's really hard to imagine such a personal song in another context. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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He did a great job with "song of the heart" for happy feet. He is a genius to mix movie scenes into his song. I liked that with Batman as well. So he can really create a song to fit into a movie. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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TrivialPursuit said:
Well, I think Beautiful Strange could have been a great Bond-ballad. And Boom! Could fit also. I can see the gunshots and explosions in the opening credits everytime he sings the word Boom! | |
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I wanna think something like Solo could work for a Bond theme. Perhaps with just a touch more pop sensibility to it? That, Strays of the World, Planet Earth, Gold, Last December, they all have the epic and cinematic quality to them I think. Could they be refashioned into a Bond theme? Maybe. I keep thinking back to TP's mention of Goldeneye because that, and The World Is Not Enough, exemplify the Bond themes to me. Something major, epic, distinctly in theme, a very specific cocktail of international spy movie magic. Very different to the garbage Madonna turned out, which if past is precedent, could allow for, idk, Wedding Feast or Jughead to be a Bond theme. | |
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Bond songs are normally written specifically for the film after the synopsis/narrative of the film is shared with the songwriter so that the newly written piece actually fits the film. | |
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