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Thread started 01/26/22 1:25pm

Milty2

PRN Alumni SUPERGROUP - wishful thinking

While Listening to the Welcome 2 America podcasts last year, I thought that Shelby, Elisa and Liv should form a super vocal group because they sounded like they were having so much fun together. But what if it went further? Who would you choose to form a Prince alumni super group? But this time, I'd rather hear their own original music.

My choices would be:

Wendy and Lisa

Michael B

Sonny T

Shelby, Elisa and Liv

Rosie Gaines

The Hornheadz including Eric Leeds

[Edited 1/26/22 13:26pm]

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Reply #1 posted 01/26/22 2:46pm

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Why?

It will not help reincarnate or reimagine Prince.

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Reply #2 posted 01/26/22 3:49pm

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udo said:

Why?

It will not help reincarnate or reimagine Prince.


And we've done this before. Some posters have even laid out "okay, one drummer, one percussionist, two background singers, two guitarists, two keyboardists, one bass player," to try and keep it uber specific.

Besides, with all the alumni playing together in different ways, there are versions of a super group out there anyway. Prince even put W&L into his band with psycho-Sheila at the Brit Awards, and had Matt, Bobby, and Mark play with his band at the 2000 celebration.

Sonny, and Michael B were on 3121 with his band. Sheila was on that album.

Also, Eric Leeds was with him off and on for years.

All that cross pollenation and super-band wannabe stuff has been done to large extents.

[Edited 1/26/22 15:50pm]

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #3 posted 01/26/22 3:58pm

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Guitar - Jesse Johnson
Rhythm Guitar - Mike Scott
Bass - Andre Cymone
Keyboards - Renato Neto
Drums - Michael B
Sax - Maceo Parker & Candy Dulfer
Vocals - Jesse Johnson & Andre Cymone


I would not allow Rosie Gaines or Shelby J anywhere near it.
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Reply #4 posted 01/26/22 6:38pm

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EmmaMcG said:

Guitar - Jesse Johnson Rhythm Guitar - Mike Scott Bass - Andre Cymone Keyboards - Renato Neto Drums - Michael B Sax - Maceo Parker & Candy Dulfer Vocals - Jesse Johnson & Andre Cymone I would not allow Rosie Gaines or Shelby J anywhere near it.


But you need a female voice. Jill Jones.
Neither Jesse nor Andre have Prince's vocal range.

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Reply #5 posted 01/26/22 7:16pm

Milty2

laytonian said:

EmmaMcG said:

Guitar - Jesse Johnson Rhythm Guitar - Mike Scott Bass - Andre Cymone Keyboards - Renato Neto Drums - Michael B Sax - Maceo Parker & Candy Dulfer Vocals - Jesse Johnson & Andre Cymone I would not allow Rosie Gaines or Shelby J anywhere near it.


But you need a female voice. Jill Jones.
Neither Jesse nor Andre have Prince's vocal range.

Well the point was for this to be a band doing their own original material. They're artists too after all. I hadn't thought of Jill Jones but I like it.

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Reply #6 posted 01/27/22 7:44am

EmmaMcG

laytonian said:



EmmaMcG said:


Guitar - Jesse Johnson Rhythm Guitar - Mike Scott Bass - Andre Cymone Keyboards - Renato Neto Drums - Michael B Sax - Maceo Parker & Candy Dulfer Vocals - Jesse Johnson & Andre Cymone I would not allow Rosie Gaines or Shelby J anywhere near it.


But you need a female voice. Jill Jones.
Neither Jesse nor Andre have Prince's vocal range.



I don't want a female voice though. But if one was required for backing vocals or whatever then I'd want someone who can do just that. Blend into the background.

And besides, Jesse Johnson has a fantastic voice that, while it may not cover the entirety of Prince's range, is great in its own right. Just check out his song Sheila Rae from his Verbal Penetration album. Brilliant. And a damn sight better than anything Prince was doing during that time period.
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Reply #7 posted 01/27/22 8:36am

Milty2

EmmaMcG said:

laytonian said:


But you need a female voice. Jill Jones.
Neither Jesse nor Andre have Prince's vocal range.

I don't want a female voice though. But if one was required for backing vocals or whatever then I'd want someone who can do just that. Blend into the background. And besides, Jesse Johnson has a fantastic voice that, while it may not cover the entirety of Prince's range, is great in its own right. Just check out his song Sheila Rae from his Verbal Penetration album. Brilliant. And a damn sight better than anything Prince was doing during that time period.

It probably would make more sense to have a female voice because Prince preferred working with female singers more than male singers. I didn't add a blazing guitar player to my list and so I guess that would have to be Jesse Johnson. I can't speak to his vocals though. I have Shockdelica at home; maybe I'll give it a spin this evening.

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Reply #8 posted 01/27/22 9:20am

EmmaMcG

Milty2 said:



EmmaMcG said:


laytonian said:



But you need a female voice. Jill Jones.
Neither Jesse nor Andre have Prince's vocal range.



I don't want a female voice though. But if one was required for backing vocals or whatever then I'd want someone who can do just that. Blend into the background. And besides, Jesse Johnson has a fantastic voice that, while it may not cover the entirety of Prince's range, is great in its own right. Just check out his song Sheila Rae from his Verbal Penetration album. Brilliant. And a damn sight better than anything Prince was doing during that time period.


It probably would make more sense to have a female voice because Prince preferred working with female singers more than male singers. I didn't add a blazing guitar player to my list and so I guess that would have to be Jesse Johnson. I can't speak to his vocals though. I have Shockdelica at home; maybe I'll give it a spin this evening.



It doesn't matter who Prince preferred working with. Prince is not in my hypothetical band. Plus, if this were a real band, I would rather they distance themselves completely from Prince's music anyway. Andre and Jesse are well capable of writing their own stuff.

If you really want to hear the best of Jesse Johnson then I can't recommend the Verbal Penetration album highly enough. His 80s stuff is really just a bad imitation of Prince. The music itself is alright but you can't help but compare it to Prince and very few artists come out looking good when they're compared to Prince. His later work, when he was under less record label pressure to churn out the "Minneapolis sound", and instead is allowed to display his own talent, is far better. And a truer reflection of the man's talent, not to mention a good example of why I would choose him as the band's center piece.
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Reply #9 posted 01/27/22 12:20pm

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EmmaMcG said:

laytonian said:


But you need a female voice. Jill Jones.
Neither Jesse nor Andre have Prince's vocal range.

I don't want a female voice though. But if one was required for backing vocals or whatever then I'd want someone who can do just that. Blend into the background. And besides, Jesse Johnson has a fantastic voice that, while it may not cover the entirety of Prince's range, is great in its own right. Just check out his song Sheila Rae from his Verbal Penetration album. Brilliant. And a damn sight better than anything Prince was doing during that time period.


Sounds good. But like it's old school. Curtis Mayfield-esque. Loved Prince ballads around 2009-2010, so can't agree with you there. The brilliant Born 2 Die from P is also similar, and that was recorded in 2010.


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Reply #10 posted 01/27/22 1:34pm

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Drums - Michael B

Bass - Sonny T

Keys - Tommy Barbarella

Guitar - Jesse Johnson

Sax - Eric Leeds

Horns - Hornheadz

Vocals would be the hardest part, because Prince didnt have exactly a male singer/frontman in his bands. Maybe Morris Day? And a female singer wouldnt cover his male vocals too. I would go with Mackenzie. He did a great job in the NPG tributes. Rosie would be great too, with Shelby, Elisa and Liv.

[Edited 1/27/22 13:36pm]

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Reply #11 posted 01/27/22 2:29pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:



EmmaMcG said:


laytonian said:



But you need a female voice. Jill Jones.
Neither Jesse nor Andre have Prince's vocal range.



I don't want a female voice though. But if one was required for backing vocals or whatever then I'd want someone who can do just that. Blend into the background. And besides, Jesse Johnson has a fantastic voice that, while it may not cover the entirety of Prince's range, is great in its own right. Just check out his song Sheila Rae from his Verbal Penetration album. Brilliant. And a damn sight better than anything Prince was doing during that time period.


Sounds good. But like it's old school. Curtis Mayfield-esque. Loved Prince ballads around 2009-2010, so can't agree with you there. The brilliant Born 2 Die from P is also similar, and that was recorded in 2010.




I was referring more to what Prince actually released but yeah, I'll give you Born 2 Die. My point was, though, that Jesse Johnson is very capable of being a lead singer in this hypothetical band of former Prince musicians.
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Reply #12 posted 01/29/22 9:11am

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My supergroup would be the new New Power trio I saw in 2007.

I am unsure about the vocalist/guitarist...

.

This could give a sound pure as Jimi's and bring us Prince stuff.

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Reply #13 posted 02/02/22 7:19am

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I saw The Revolution here in Detroit in 2018, they had Stokley as their lead singer and a guest guitarist (not sure who, but looked a lot like Dr. Cornell West).

They were amazing. The music was top-notch, and Stokley was an energetic frontman with some very strong vocal abilities.

As amazing as they were . . . they're not Prince And The Revolution. As amazing as a PRN supergroup would be, they're not Prince & The NPG or Prince and 3EG. They will always feel like a tribute or cover band.

Prince was the center of it all, the spark, the appeal, the magic.

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Reply #14 posted 02/02/22 8:14am

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That Cornell West mention made me curious. Looks like it was a Detroit local guitarist named Rob Bacon.
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Reply #15 posted 02/02/22 9:44am

Milty2

Se7en said:

I saw The Revolution here in Detroit in 2018, they had Stokley as their lead singer and a guest guitarist (not sure who, but looked a lot like Dr. Cornell West).

They were amazing. The music was top-notch, and Stokley was an energetic frontman with some very strong vocal abilities.

As amazing as they were . . . they're not Prince And The Revolution. As amazing as a PRN supergroup would be, they're not Prince & The NPG or Prince and 3EG. They will always feel like a tribute or cover band.

Prince was the center of it all, the spark, the appeal, the magic.

I dont expect any band to compare to Prince, after all, that's not the point. The point of this thread was to create a group that would stand on its own and be an original band that writes their own material and not be a Prince tribute band. For example, like I said before, after listening to the W2A podcasts, I thought the Shelby, Liv and Elisa would make a great vocalist group. It seemed they had great energy working together. Far as I'm concerned, Prince doesn't enter the equation except to say that this wouild be part of his legacy.

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Reply #16 posted 02/02/22 1:46pm

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udo said:

My supergroup would be the new New Power trio I saw in 2007.


I am unsure about the vocalist/guitarist...


.


This could give a sound pure as Jimi's and bring us Prince stuff.



Who was in the trio?
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Reply #17 posted 02/02/22 5:19pm

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PJMcGee said:

udo said:

My supergroup would be the new New Power trio I saw in 2007.


I am unsure about the vocalist/guitarist...


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This could give a sound pure as Jimi's and bring us Prince stuff.



Who was in the trio?


I'm wishing trio a typo and you meant trip?

That's what this thread is and I love it.

Just any combination is a supergroup.
I mean let's be Frank.
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Reply #18 posted 02/03/22 9:27am

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PJMcGee said:

udo said:

My supergroup would be the new New Power trio I saw in 2007.

I am unsure about the vocalist/guitarist...

.

This could give a sound pure as Jimi's and bring us Prince stuff.

Who was in the trio?

.

See princevault.

At least I believe it was this date.

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Reply #19 posted 02/04/22 7:39am

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Milty2 said:

Se7en said:

I saw The Revolution here in Detroit in 2018, they had Stokley as their lead singer and a guest guitarist (not sure who, but looked a lot like Dr. Cornell West).

They were amazing. The music was top-notch, and Stokley was an energetic frontman with some very strong vocal abilities.

As amazing as they were . . . they're not Prince And The Revolution. As amazing as a PRN supergroup would be, they're not Prince & The NPG or Prince and 3EG. They will always feel like a tribute or cover band.

Prince was the center of it all, the spark, the appeal, the magic.

I dont expect any band to compare to Prince, after all, that's not the point. The point of this thread was to create a group that would stand on its own and be an original band that writes their own material and not be a Prince tribute band. For example, like I said before, after listening to the W2A podcasts, I thought the Shelby, Liv and Elisa would make a great vocalist group. It seemed they had great energy working together. Far as I'm concerned, Prince doesn't enter the equation except to say that this wouild be part of his legacy.


Well, to use a few other post-Prince examples (The Original Seven, Fdeluxe, Sheila E.), they do end up trying to sound like the stuff that Prince wrote and don't always hit the mark.

Not sure most of those associated artists have writing chops.

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Reply #20 posted 02/04/22 9:49am

Milty2

Se7en said:

Milty2 said:

I dont expect any band to compare to Prince, after all, that's not the point. The point of this thread was to create a group that would stand on its own and be an original band that writes their own material and not be a Prince tribute band. For example, like I said before, after listening to the W2A podcasts, I thought the Shelby, Liv and Elisa would make a great vocalist group. It seemed they had great energy working together. Far as I'm concerned, Prince doesn't enter the equation except to say that this wouild be part of his legacy.


Well, to use a few other post-Prince examples (The Original Seven, Fdeluxe, Sheila E.), they do end up trying to sound like the stuff that Prince wrote and don't always hit the mark.

Not sure most of those associated artists have writing chops.

If anyone worked with Prince as long as The Original Seven, Fdeluxe, Sheila E. did, I would imagine it would be difficult to avoid any Prince-isms in their own music. As for writing chops, I'm sure these other artists have writing chops.

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