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100 Greatest Soundtracks of All Time: ‘Batman’ (1989): Albumism

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So…when is a soundtrack album not a soundtrack album? That’s the question with Batman, the 1989 album from Prince. As the story goes, initially the concept for Tim Burton’s Batman reboot was to have Prince contribute a collection of songs for one side of the album and Michael Jackson to contribute the other. A nice idea in funk-pop concept, but that idea soon fell by the wayside (and let’s face it, Jackson took his time to release anything, unlike the always prolific Prince.)

So as Prince dug in and started writing, he took the unique approach of writing songs from the perspective of the characters and sampled lines from the actors to enhance the tie-in. This led to songs like the gloomy funk of “The Future” being attributed to Batman, while his alter-ego Bruce Wayne is all seductive on “Arms of Orion” and contemplative on the skittish “Vicki Waiting.” Elsewhere, the Joker is allowed to run amok with the amped up “Electric Chair,” the manic funk of “Party Man” and the hyped up jam “Trust.”

It all comes together in the mega-beta-mix of “Batdance,” which even loops in the songs Prince originally wrote for the movie (“Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic” and “200 Balloons”).

Whilst Prince’s actual contributions that appeared in the movie were slight by comparison, and the official score was done by wunderkind Danny Elfman, this quasi-soundtrack album still manages to encapsulate the darkness and madness of Burton’s vision with a much funkier edge.


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Reply #1 posted 01/09/22 11:29am

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Batdance music

Love the soundtrack of Batman

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Reply #2 posted 01/09/22 11:55am

Wolfie87

Scandalous is the maybe the main reason why my Prince golden timeline extends from 1978-1989. Not 1988. He sure could do that ethernal drum programming in maybe the most difficult time to do a timeless beat, the end of the 80's. That beat is fucking unbelievable to this day. I don't know how he worked his magic in the studio, but it sounds so good. The highly praised Babyface released Whip Appeal, and THAT sounds soooo 1989-1990 in production, Scandalous don't. In my personal top 3 Prince songs of all time.
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Reply #3 posted 01/09/22 1:29pm

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Not a chance this is in the top 100. The Danny elfman score, yes. Not Princes aim afraid
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Wolfie87 said:

Scandalous is the maybe the main reason why my Prince golden timeline extends from 1978-1989. Not 1988. He sure could do that ethernal drum programming in maybe the most difficult time to do a timeless beat, the end of the 80's. That beat is fucking unbelievable to this day. I don't know how he worked his magic in the studio, but it sounds so good. The highly praised Babyface released Whip Appeal, and THAT sounds soooo 1989-1990 in production, Scandalous don't. In my personal top 3 Prince songs of all time.


Interesting point. With the onslaught of big reverb production (a la Taylor Dayne's producer Ric Wake), and that canned sound, it was almost too easy to make a memorable beat. We have to remember that Prince was writing this music during the Lovesexy Tour. So he was still in his 'golden era' while working on songs for the soundtrack. And Prince was still in the mode of doing something unique and different, and not following a trend. (However, I believe he sorta did with some of the GB remixes and outtakes, because they're all either a reverby hollow sound and/or what seems to be 160bpm; just manic.)

In fact, in my mind, I've always thought of Graffiti Bridge was a direction descendant of Lovesexy, with their pseudo-religious themes, and over-produced aesthetic (eg: the red metering on Lovesexy that Eric Leeds talked about). Batman almost felt like a pause in Prince's musical direction with Lovesexy and Graffiti Bridge. Batman feels more like it could've come right behind Sign O The Times. Darker mood, grittier production, etc.

So for me, Batman has as much strength in each song (minus one) as Sign O The Times. Of course they're different records, coming from different areas, but the muscle is all there. What's the minus one? "Lemon Crush" It just seems to blather on and on (not unlike this post HA!). It's not horrible, but I do tend to skip it a lot.

However, all the other songs are just as strong. Yes, even "The Arms of Orion," which I still don't fully get why people hate that song. It's my go-to on the piano to warm up. I used the intro of "I Love U In Me" as a bridge (faster tempo) years ago, in a song I wrote. It served as a good key change.

Batman's strength lies not just in great songs, but "Batdance" itself. It's a song but not a song. It's ... something. It's fun, though, and with the sheer hysteria around Batman the movie at the time, the soundtrack and a solid and fun track like "Batdance" helped bolster it to #1, I'm not surprised it's in the top 100 for Albumism.

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Reply #5 posted 01/09/22 2:41pm

Phase3

The album that made me a prince fan in the first place
I love the album and the movie equally
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Reply #6 posted 01/09/22 3:41pm

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Yeah, Batdance is a strange one. It's more like a medley, like one of those great, delirious everything-bagel things he did for award shows. You know which ones. Also, the Super Bowl.

Plus, in the middle of several nasty beats, he tosses off an effortless guitar solo, the likes of which most so-called guitar gods can only dream about.

Yeah, one of the strangest number 1 songs ever, to go along with When Doves Cry. (I know it's not in Doves' league, but it is strange. Like Bowie's Let's Dance, another wacky number 1. Blondie's The Tide Is High and Rapture. Oh, the '80s. Bottomless well of pop.)
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Reply #7 posted 01/09/22 5:11pm

Wolfie87

TrivialPursuit said:



Wolfie87 said:


Scandalous is the maybe the main reason why my Prince golden timeline extends from 1978-1989. Not 1988. He sure could do that ethernal drum programming in maybe the most difficult time to do a timeless beat, the end of the 80's. That beat is fucking unbelievable to this day. I don't know how he worked his magic in the studio, but it sounds so good. The highly praised Babyface released Whip Appeal, and THAT sounds soooo 1989-1990 in production, Scandalous don't. In my personal top 3 Prince songs of all time.


Interesting point. With the onslaught of big reverb production (a la Taylor Dayne's producer Ric Wake), and that canned sound, it was almost too easy to make a memorable beat. We have to remember that Prince was writing this music during the Lovesexy Tour. So he was still in his 'golden era' while working on songs for the soundtrack. And Prince was still in the mode of doing something unique and different, and not following a trend. (However, I believe he sorta did with some of the GB remixes and outtakes, because they're all either a reverby hollow sound and/or what seems to be 160bpm; just manic.)

In fact, in my mind, I've always thought of Graffiti Bridge was a direction descendant of Lovesexy, with their pseudo-religious themes, and over-produced aesthetic (eg: the red metering on Lovesexy that Eric Leeds talked about). Batman almost felt like a pause in Prince's musical direction with Lovesexy and Graffiti Bridge. Batman feels more like it could've come right behind Sign O The Times. Darker mood, grittier production, etc.

So for me, Batman has as much strength in each song (minus one) as Sign O The Times. Of course they're different records, coming from different areas, but the muscle is all there. What's the minus one? "Lemon Crush" It just seems to blather on and on (not unlike this post HA!). It's not horrible, but I do tend to skip it a lot.

However, all the other songs are just as strong. Yes, even "The Arms of Orion," which I still don't fully get why people hate that song. It's my go-to on the piano to warm up. I used the intro of "I Love U In Me" as a bridge (faster tempo) years ago, in a song I wrote. It served as a good key change.

Batman's strength lies not just in great songs, but "Batdance" itself. It's a song but not a song. It's ... something. It's fun, though, and with the sheer hysteria around Batman the movie at the time, the soundtrack and a solid and fun track like "Batdance" helped bolster it to #1, I'm not surprised it's in the top 100 for Albumism.



Yeah, absolutely too easy to make a memorable beat. Poison by Bell Biv DeVoe is maybe the most recognizable and memorable beat from 1988-1989. But it still sounds like shit. The same with Groove Me and the genius producer Teddy Riley, well that single also sounds like shit today (Believe me, I adore his production from The Future over to Dangerous.) You like it because of nostalgia or you like it "ironically", for a screwball comedy about how the 80's were. And here is where Prince and Scandalous endure. Lemon Crush and Arms Off Orion doesn't. Disney synths on Arms Of Orion made for children lame ass ballad. Lemon Crush to overload of New Jack Swing, not the Prince I know. But Scandalous, fucking Scandalous.

Now, I am I straight guy but can see the beauty in other men. And Prince appeared on Mavis Staples Time Waits For no One video. And when I see him with that long black hair together with that perfect beard playing one of my favorite Guitar God moments of his career I feel something inside, Power. And Women had to felt the same way.

I fucking love 1989 Prince. Dude was that genius putting out, what he knew was his best song that year, on a separate LP. Who does that! I adore The Rapture. People need to listen to that 1988-1990 guitar tone. It cuts deep into my soul. Sorry for the rambling and cursing, but Batman and 1988-1989 Prince is my period. Adore/Pink Cashmere/Scandalous is my 1# of his best songs of all time (no I can't separate them, it's just perfect music art and belong together. Again, during a period when timeless ballads were impossible to pull of, but that's why he is my favorite artist riding his own lane. Within Two years he makes ballads like this! TWO!
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Reply #8 posted 01/09/22 8:18pm

SoulAlive

“Batdance” is one of the greatest songs Prince has ever done.It certainly isn’t your typical 80s movie theme song.It’s extremely bold,edgy and hard-hitting.The way he switches up the groove (“stop the press!”) is sheer brilliance.Love the video too.
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Reply #9 posted 01/09/22 9:01pm

LoveGalore

Like the overly slick cousin to Lovesexy. Not my favorite moment of his.
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Reply #10 posted 01/10/22 1:29am

RODSERLING

Definitely one of Prince best albums.
I would have replaced the filler Lemon Crush by an edited version of Dance With The Devil though.
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Reply #11 posted 01/10/22 2:36am

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Yes, Lemon Crush is not the greatest track, but it's got some great programming on it.

I've always enjoyed this album and it's one that I return to more than others from the 80's. It was such a cool period, the videos, the album and singles artwork, good b-sides, Batdance just being bat shit crazy, The Scandalous Sex Suite release, and then the Batman songs played on The Nude Tour. Great stuff.

[Edited 1/10/22 2:38am]

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Reply #12 posted 01/10/22 3:43am

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mb71 said:

Yes, Lemon Crush is not the greatest track, but it's got some great programming on it.

I've always enjoyed this album and it's one that I return to more than others from the 80's. It was such a cool period, the videos, the album and singles artwork, good b-sides, Batdance just being bat shit crazy, The Scandalous Sex Suite release, and then the Batman songs played on The Nude Tour. Great stuff.

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While you're at it, can you explain me the point between Lemon Crush and the movie?
In Dance with the Devil, this is obvious.
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Reply #13 posted 01/10/22 4:11am

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That soundtrack is my up there as one of my fav releases of his.

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RODSERLING said:

mb71 said:

Yes, Lemon Crush is not the greatest track, but it's got some great programming on it.

I've always enjoyed this album and it's one that I return to more than others from the 80's. It was such a cool period, the videos, the album and singles artwork, good b-sides, Batdance just being bat shit crazy, The Scandalous Sex Suite release, and then the Batman songs played on The Nude Tour. Great stuff.

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While you're at it, can you explain me the point between Lemon Crush and the movie? In Dance with the Devil, this is obvious.

I have no idea. Each tracks relation to the film is not something I've ever been interested in. I get that it was a soundtrack of sorts, but I've never been into comic book characters, and I've still never even seen the film or been interested in it.
For me it was the new Prince album which just happened to have some pretty cool imagery attached.
Some people think Lemon Crush is just filler... I don't know.

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mb71 said:



RODSERLING said:


mb71 said:

Yes, Lemon Crush is not the greatest track, but it's got some great programming on it.

I've always enjoyed this album and it's one that I return to more than others from the 80's. It was such a cool period, the videos, the album and singles artwork, good b-sides, Batdance just being bat shit crazy, The Scandalous Sex Suite release, and then the Batman songs played on The Nude Tour. Great stuff.


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While you're at it, can you explain me the point between Lemon Crush and the movie? In Dance with the Devil, this is obvious.

I have no idea. Each tracks relation to the film is not something I've ever been interested in. I get that it was a soundtrack of sorts, but I've never been into comic book characters, and I've still never even seen the film or been interested in it.
For me it was the new Prince album which just happened to have some pretty cool imagery attached.
Some people think Lemon Crush is just filler... I don't know.



What? You never saw that movie?
It's the first movie I saw in a theater, I was 3 years old.
At the time my favourite show was Batman 66, and I remember not liking the movie because my favorite character was Robin biggrin
I ve had the VHS too the following year for Christmas

I saw it on blu-ray a few years ago, it's still a great movie, more a film noir than a current Marvel superhero flick. So I advise you to watch it.

When I was about 10, a friend of mine wanted to see it, but I was embarrassed because at the time my tv was broke amd I had only an old black amd white tv!

But it worked incredibly well on B&W, that was an interesting experience.
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Reply #16 posted 01/10/22 9:30am

LoveGalore

Lemon Crush wasn't written for the movie so, like the other songs not written for Batman but used for the soundtrack anyway, any connection is tenuous and an afterthought. Vicki Waiting being the other obvious one. As well as Scandalous and Electric Chair.
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LoveGalore said:

Lemon Crush wasn't written for the movie so, like the other songs not written for Batman but used for the soundtrack anyway, any connection is tenuous and an afterthought. Vicki Waiting being the other obvious one. As well as Scandalous and Electric Chair.


An afterthought of what?
Scandalous can be heard twice in the movie. Even Elfman use it in his own soundtrack.
Electric Chair is also heard on the movie, and fits well to the Jokers character.

Vicky Waiting is obviously about Vicky Vale, Batman's loving lady.

How else could you interpret these lyrics :
"
All is well in Gotham City
The sound of terror is all you hear
Sometimes a pistol takes the place of her body
Sometimes her body's here
But you see, when crime is your only love
All that matter is the present, the here and now
People, people, whatever floats this Joker's boat
Is whatever this Joker will bang
"


"Talking of children still frightens me (ah, whoo)
Is my character enough to be (yeah, whoo)
One that deserves a copy made? (ever, ever)
This I one day, hope to see
Until then she's held at bay
By my animal-like persistence
"

Do you really think this has nothing to do with Batman eek ?
Even a cathedral is referenced in the 1st verse in the joke.
The cathedral, just like in the movie.
Amd who is the first person in the world who makes jokes, if not the Joker?

But in Lemon Crush I don't see the reference at all.
Is lemon because of the color of the bat-symbol? How silly would that be.
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Reply #18 posted 01/10/22 11:36am

SoulAlive

"Lemon Crush" is the only track that seems like filler.I like the music and the groove,but the lyrics aren't very good.

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SoulAlive said:

"Lemon Crush" is the only track that seems like filler.I like the music and the groove,but the lyrics aren't very good.

It has that WDC synth run in it, though.

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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RODSERLING said:

LoveGalore said:
"Lemon Crush" wasn't written for the movie so, like the other songs not written for Batman but used for the soundtrack anyway, any connection is tenuous and an afterthought. "Vicki Waiting" being the other obvious one. As well as "Scandalous" and "Electric Chair."
An afterthought of what? "Scandalous" can be heard twice in the movie. Even Elfman use it in his own soundtrack. "Electric Chair" is also heard on the movie, and fits well to the Jokers character. "Vicki Waiting" is obviously about Vicki Vale, Batman's loving lady. How else could you interpret these lyrics :

Do you really think this has nothing to do with Batman eek ? Even a cathedral is referenced in the 1st verse in the joke. The cathedral, just like in the movie. Amd who is the first person in the world who makes jokes, if not the Joker? But in "Lemon Crush" I don't see the reference at all. Is lemon because of the color of the bat-symbol? How silly would that be.


I think we're assuming that only songs like "Trust" and "Partyman" were written for the movie, and nothing else was. Clearly, that's not the case. We hear "The Future," "Electric Chair," "Scandalous" in there as well. Remember, Prince wrote "200 Balloons" and then had to go back and do another song because Burton didn't want that? Riffing on that note...

To say these songs were inspired by the movie, as noted on the album, is more than a fair representation of the music. Even in the lyric sheet, the songs are from any certain character's point of view. I don't believe they were after thoughts.

I believe Prince, being Prince and a machine, was churning out music left and right. Batman, in itself, certainly lends plenty of source material for a musician.

Burton, being a director with a vision, listened and used what he felt was appropriate for his movie, here and there. Just as he did with Elfman. One has to assume that Elfman, as well, wrote music that didn't make it into the movie.

"Vicki Waiting" isn't an afterthought to me. It could've been in there somewhere, but Burton didn't put it in. Clearly, Vicki getting stood up in the film is what made this song happen. She could've easily had the radio on with that song playing, just as a random thing. (Sorta like Mary having "I Wonder U" on the radio when in bed and calling Christopher.)

Remember that the Joker palm-zapped someone in one scene after Grisham died. Ergo, that's likely the inspiration for "Electric Chair." Just the idea in general. Not everything was that specific, but some things were.

For me, it's a reason the soundtrack is good. Not just because Prince did it, but because even the songs not in the movie had a tone about them, either an aural aesthetic or lyrical content, that reflected the storyline of the movie.

Not sure about that "Lemon Crush" thing with the Bat symbol. It was not the color of a lemon in the movie. The Bat symbol can be any color.

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Reply #21 posted 01/10/22 2:47pm

LoveGalore

You guys really love arguing nothing at all.

The songs I listed were recorded well before he signed on for any Batman project. Some were on initial Rave tracklists. He was making music at the time and thought, oh cool I can bring these songs over here and tweak it like this to be relevant to the movie.

Yes. Fucking obviously you hear some of them in the movie. That's not the question. The question is whether Lemon Crush, Anna Waiting, Electric Chair, and Scandalous were written for Batman. They were not.
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LoveGalore said:

The question is whether Lemon Crush, Anna Waiting, Electric Chair, and Scandalous were written for Batman. They were not.


I don't think "Lemon Crush" was written for any reason, just to be clear. HAHAHAHA

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Reply #23 posted 01/10/22 7:59pm

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Lemon Crush--perhaps tracking for a scene with Batman dipping through a Gotham nightclub in pursuit of x,y, or z?
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Anyway, my impression of the film view is that it was too optically dark, where maybe more stategic spotlighting or ambient lighting could have offered better effects--for me at least--to keep the noir but offer some better views. Given Prince's Batdance video performance, he could have made a noteable cameo in the movie. I'll have to give it a re-watch sometime.



RODSERLING said:

mb71 said:

Yes, Lemon Crush is not the greatest track, but it's got some great programming on it.

I've always enjoyed this album and it's one that I return to more than others from the 80's. It was such a cool period, the videos, the album and singles artwork, good b-sides, Batdance just being bat shit crazy, The Scandalous Sex Suite release, and then the Batman songs played on The Nude Tour. Great stuff.

[Edited 1/10/22 2:38am]



While you're at it, can you explain me the point between Lemon Crush and the movie?
In Dance with the Devil, this is obvious.
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Reply #24 posted 01/10/22 8:46pm

LoveGalore

TrivialPursuit said:



LoveGalore said:


The question is whether Lemon Crush, Anna Waiting, Electric Chair, and Scandalous were written for Batman. They were not.


I don't think "Lemon Crush" was written for any reason, just to be clear. HAHAHAHA



Lmao stop, I honestly love that song? Especially at the end when he plays the groove on guitar. Reminds me of the end of Bob George when he does the same thing. Cool shit.
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Reply #25 posted 01/10/22 9:56pm

RODSERLING

TrivialPursuit said:



RODSERLING said:


LoveGalore said:
"Lemon Crush" wasn't written for the movie so, like the other songs not written for Batman but used for the soundtrack anyway, any connection is tenuous and an afterthought. "Vicki Waiting" being the other obvious one. As well as "Scandalous" and "Electric Chair."

An afterthought of what? "Scandalous" can be heard twice in the movie. Even Elfman use it in his own soundtrack. "Electric Chair" is also heard on the movie, and fits well to the Jokers character. "Vicki Waiting" is obviously about Vicki Vale, Batman's loving lady. How else could you interpret these lyrics :

Do you really think this has nothing to do with Batman eek ? Even a cathedral is referenced in the 1st verse in the joke. The cathedral, just like in the movie. Amd who is the first person in the world who makes jokes, if not the Joker? But in "Lemon Crush" I don't see the reference at all. Is lemon because of the color of the bat-symbol? How silly would that be.


I think we're assuming that only songs like "Trust" and "Partyman" were written for the movie, and nothing else was. Clearly, that's not the case. We hear "The Future," "Electric Chair," "Scandalous" in there as well. Remember, Prince wrote "200 Balloons" and then had to go back and do another song because Burton didn't want that? Riffing on that note...

To say these songs were inspired by the movie, as noted on the album, is more than a fair representation of the music. Even in the lyric sheet, the songs are from any certain character's point of view. I don't believe they were after thoughts.


I believe Prince, being Prince and a machine, was churning out music left and right. Batman, in itself, certainly lends plenty of source material for a musician.


Burton, being a director with a vision, listened and used what he felt was appropriate for his movie, here and there. Just as he did with Elfman. One has to assume that Elfman, as well, wrote music that didn't make it into the movie.

"Vicki Waiting" isn't an afterthought to me. It could've been in there somewhere, but Burton didn't put it in. Clearly, Vicki getting stood up in the film is what made this song happen. She could've easily had the radio on with that song playing, just as a random thing. (Sorta like Mary having "I Wonder U" on the radio when in bed and calling Christopher.)


Remember that the Joker palm-zapped someone in one scene after Grisham died. Ergo, that's likely the inspiration for "Electric Chair." Just the idea in general. Not everything was that specific, but some things were.

For me, it's a reason the soundtrack is good. Not just because Prince did it, but because even the songs not in the movie had a tone about them, either an aural aesthetic or lyrical content, that reflected the storyline of the movie.

Not sure about that "Lemon Crush" thing with the Bat symbol. It was not the color of a lemon in the movie. The Bat symbol can be any color.



Like I said, Vicky s Waiting IS in the movie.
IIRC, it can be heard in the game room owned by Bruce Wayne.
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Reply #26 posted 01/10/22 10:05pm

RODSERLING

LoveGalore said:

You guys really love arguing nothing at all.

The songs I listed were recorded well before he signed on for any Batman project. Some were on initial Rave tracklists. He was making music at the time and thought, oh cool I can bring these songs over here and tweak it like this to be relevant to the movie.

Yes. Fucking obviously you hear some of them in the movie. That's not the question. The question is whether Lemon Crush, Anna Waiting, Electric Chair, and Scandalous were written for Batman. They were not.


You could say that of every soundtrack in the world.
Of course some material was created before, that's not the point.
Even Partyman was created before, and you wouldn't have guessed it.

I don't know what s your point with Anna Waiting : it's neither in the movie, nor in the soundtrack.
Can you quote the lyrics from Anna Fantastic please, to say it was already talking about Gotham City and the Joker? biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 01/10/22 11:46pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

RODSERLING said:

LoveGalore said: An afterthought of what? "Scandalous" can be heard twice in the movie. Even Elfman use it in his own soundtrack. "Electric Chair" is also heard on the movie, and fits well to the Jokers character. "Vicki Waiting" is obviously about Vicki Vale, Batman's loving lady. How else could you interpret these lyrics :

Do you really think this has nothing to do with Batman eek ? Even a cathedral is referenced in the 1st verse in the joke. The cathedral, just like in the movie. Amd who is the first person in the world who makes jokes, if not the Joker? But in "Lemon Crush" I don't see the reference at all. Is lemon because of the color of the bat-symbol? How silly would that be.


I think we're assuming that only songs like "Trust" and "Partyman" were written for the movie, and nothing else was. Clearly, that's not the case. We hear "The Future," "Electric Chair," "Scandalous" in there as well. Remember, Prince wrote "200 Balloons" and then had to go back and do another song because Burton didn't want that? Riffing on that note...

To say these songs were inspired by the movie, as noted on the album, is more than a fair representation of the music. Even in the lyric sheet, the songs are from any certain character's point of view. I don't believe they were after thoughts.

I believe Prince, being Prince and a machine, was churning out music left and right. Batman, in itself, certainly lends plenty of source material for a musician.

Burton, being a director with a vision, listened and used what he felt was appropriate for his movie, here and there. Just as he did with Elfman. One has to assume that Elfman, as well, wrote music that didn't make it into the movie.

"Vicki Waiting" isn't an afterthought to me. It could've been in there somewhere, but Burton didn't put it in. Clearly, Vicki getting stood up in the film is what made this song happen. She could've easily had the radio on with that song playing, just as a random thing. (Sorta like Mary having "I Wonder U" on the radio when in bed and calling Christopher.)

Remember that the Joker palm-zapped someone in one scene after Grisham died. Ergo, that's likely the inspiration for "Electric Chair." Just the idea in general. Not everything was that specific, but some things were.

For me, it's a reason the soundtrack is good. Not just because Prince did it, but because even the songs not in the movie had a tone about them, either an aural aesthetic or lyrical content, that reflected the storyline of the movie.

Not sure about that "Lemon Crush" thing with the Bat symbol. It was not the color of a lemon in the movie. The Bat symbol can be any color.


Partyman is originally from '82 or '83 or something (i'd love to hear the differences between that version and the Batman version) and 200 Balloons was a reworked song from '87 or so.

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Reply #28 posted 01/11/22 12:53am

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LoveGalore said:

You guys really love arguing nothing at all.

The songs I listed were recorded well before he signed on for any Batman project. Some were on initial Rave tracklists. He was making music at the time and thought, oh cool I can bring these songs over here and tweak it like this to be relevant to the movie.

Yes. Fucking obviously you hear some of them in the movie. That's not the question. The question is whether Lemon Crush, Anna Waiting, Electric Chair, and Scandalous were written for Batman. They were not.


You could say that of every soundtrack in the world.
Of course some material was created before, that's not the point.
Even Partyman was created before, and you wouldn't have guessed it.

I don't know what s your point with Anna Waiting : it's neither in the movie, nor in the soundtrack.
Can you quote the lyrics from Anna Fantastic please, to say it was already talking about Gotham City and the Joker? biggrin


The pedantry is really tiresome. If you can't keep up with the thread, be glad it isnt Snapchat and it won't disappear. You can reread the posts at your convenience to understand what my point is.
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Reply #29 posted 01/11/22 1:07am

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Partyman is originally from '82 or '83 or something (i'd love to hear the differences between that version and the Batman version) and 200 Balloons was a reworked song from '87 or so.


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