There I said it.

This song encapsules so much and hits my emotions

Well, just because you're overly emotional about a song doesn't make it it his overall. I just makes it his best for you.

As a teenager, I was a big fan of his instrumentals or instrumental sections. "Alexa De Paris" and "Venus de Milo" were two favorites.

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RogerRoger said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Well, just because you're overly emotional about a song doesn't make it it his overall. I just makes it his best for you.

"Yeah well that's just like your opinion maan".

Of course everything is your/my/anyone's opinion.
There are no absolutes.

Don't be so sensitive to hearing a different opinion than your own.

I'm not gonna put "for me" in my statements, it's a given

RogerRoger said:

Wolfie87 said:

RogerRoger said:

"Yeah well that's just like your opinion maan".

Of course everything is your/my/anyone's opinion.
There are no absolutes.

Don't be so sensitive to hearing a different opinion than your own.

I'm not gonna put "for me" in my statements, it's a given

But it's objectively a wrong statement. Come on now! It's a pretty piano piece, but not even close to a structural groundbreaking work in his discography.

Yeah it's a fantastic piece of music

Not about anything "structural". Feelings

"Status: There were apparently two versions of “Venus De Milo” (1:55 and 5:22), but only the
shorter one was included on the Parade album. Clare Fischer added his touches on August 13,
1985, and elements of it were used in the Under The Cherry Moon movie, but the longer version
remained unreleased during Prince’s lifetime."

Prince & Parade/SOTT era sessions Duane Tudahl

love2thenines2003 said:

"Status: There were apparently two versions of “Venus De Milo” (1:55 and 5:22), but only the
shorter one was included on the Parade album. Clare Fischer added his touches on August 13,
1985, and elements of it were used in the Under The Cherry Moon movie, but the longer version
remained unreleased during Prince’s lifetime."

Prince & Parade/SOTT era sessions Duane Tudahl

I hope the long version gets released someday.

Could hope it will be on the Parade deluxe?

And I love Clare Fischers strings generally

Wolfie87 said:

But it's objectively a wrong statement. Come on now! It's a pretty piano piece, but not even close to a structural groundbreaking work in his discography.

I will say, being a piano player, I was low-key obsessed with it in 1986. Mostly because it really as something different from all his previous stuff. But we sorta saw glimpses of him on piano not just in concert, but when he played "Purple Rain" on piano in the movie, or his prowess on "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore," the beginning of "Condition of the Heart," or "God" (either version).

It also sorta showed how he could compose a song, even a short instrumental, and really make it into something unique and beautiful, not just something that's there for the sake of it. I mean, Prince - the biggest popstar in the land - was putting out an instrumental on an album, and a b-side?!?! I think it was a bold move.

BUt then again, he was cocky by that point and was trying so hard to distance himself from all things Purple Rain in some ways. (haircuts, clothes, musically, whatever)

His best song? Nope. It almost seems obtuse to add the "for me," because how does someone not hear a masterpiece like "Adore" or pop perfection like "Private Joy" and think "Venus de Milo" trumps all that?

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Wolfie87 said:

Yep, Adore is always my pick. Context is key, context is everything. This shit was recorded 1986/1987 on analog equipment and it is by faaaaaaaar the best produced song of that decade made all by himself (and while yes, he didn't play horns, he arranged those to perfection). Fuck man, that song doesn't sound like 1987 at all, it sounds ethernal like no other piece of music during. Adore is the reason he could've retired on top, but he actually released my other favorite song Pink Cashmere a year after(!!!). Maaaaaaaan I love Adore and Pink Cashmere. #1 songs in my top list, can't separate them from the top spot.

There used to be a version of Aguilera's "What A Girl Wants" that had that organic acoustic-guitar pop thing that "Pink Cashmere" does. They replaced it on the album later with a more radio-friendly remix. But it makes me think of the acoustic nature of "Pink Cashmere." Then, when those strings really come in and he solos over them. GOD YES.

If "Adore" were to ever have a near-worthy opponent, it would've been "Pink Cashmere." "Adore" still wins, but it's gonna have to work for it.

sulls said:

I danced with my Granny to Venus de Milo at my wedding reception.

I always thought "Venus De Milo" would've been a great prelude to a wedding ceremony, or maybe an outro when everyone walks out. If I get married, I fully plan to use it as the prelude to us walking down the aisle.

Mr Roger, you would probably like a lot of classical music. Let me provide you with a very long list...

Gorgeous song that fits SO well on Parade. Not his best for me, but its up there! I have a rotating top 15 to 20 tunes that I call his best. It shifts constantly

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sulls said:

I danced with my Granny to Venus de Milo at my wedding reception.

I always thought "Venus De Milo" would've been a great prelude to a wedding ceremony, or maybe an outro when everyone walks out. If I get married, I fully plan to use it as the prelude to us walking down the aisle.

We had Venus playing on a loop whilst the guests were coming in, prior to our service.

God, my head. The song is ok, but kinda wall paper. Under The Cherry Moon is betta. Even The Most Beautiful Girl is betta.

Ok, it is better than Arms of Orion. lol

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SantanaMaitreya said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Ok, it is better than Arms of Orion. lol

That's not saying much.

Y'all shut up. "The Arms of Orion" is a great song.

A beautiful track. I think its like an interlude more than anything substantial, and still feels right on Parade's 1st side. Side 2 was pure Prince going at it.

Alexa is way better.

RogerRoger said:

There I said it.

This song encapsules so much and hits my emotions

Here you go, Mr Roger. Click here COVID-19th Century music Playlist

I see the usual suspects are here to denounce the quality of a totally brilliant P song.

Wolfie87 said:

Yep, Adore is always my pick. Context is key, context is everything. This shit was recorded 1986/1987 on analog equipment and it is by faaaaaaaar the best produced song of that decade made all by himself (and while yes, he didn't play horns, he arranged those to perfection). Fuck man, that song doesn't sound like 1987 at all, it sounds ethernal like no other piece of music during. Adore is the reason he could've retired on top, but he actually released my other favorite song Pink Cashmere a year after(!!!). Maaaaaaaan I love Adore and Pink Cashmere. #1 songs in my top list, can't separate them from the top spot. [Edited 12/4/21 14:34pm]

Adore and Pink Cashmere were recorded 1.5 years apart. And you can tell. Both brilliant songs, but for me Pink Cashmere has a production sheen that Adore doesn't. Adore kinda sounds a bit like it was recorded behind a door, like the rest of Sign album. Adore by 'a door'.

This shouldn't come as much surprise. You can tell Lovesexy album was recorded at Paisley Park. Likewise Pink Cashmere. The whole Sign 'o' the Times project was recorded before Paisley Park came online.

I hired a string trio for my wedding and sent them a cd of it to learn for when wifey walked down the vineyard aisle.

On the day, they played something else.

[Edited 12/9/21 21:53pm]

No, it ain't.

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