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Nothing Compares 2 u - Grammy nomination! Prince's instagram updated that Toni Cornell, Chris Cornell's daughter, stopped by The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. She sang a wonderful version of "Nothing Compares 2 U."
Chris's version was nominated for a Grammy.
Technically, it's not the first time. Sinead's album I Do Not Want What I haven't Got was nominated for a Grammy. The album was nominated for four Grammy Awards in 1991, including Record of the Year, Best Female Pop Vocal Performance, and Best Music Video, Short Form for "Nothing Compares 2 U", winning the award for Best Alternative Music Performance.
Toni's voice is amazing. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #1 posted 12/18/21 3:09pm
Cindy |
I just watched the video. Loved it. Thanks! |
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Reply #2 posted 12/18/21 3:25pm
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Prince threw that one away, I believe. Such a stunning song and it may end up being the one he's most remembered for, after Purple Rain.
I so wish he'd released it himself as a single, along with so many others.
But I'm confused about the mention of Sinead's album. Has it been re-nominated as a historical album? I don't see it on any list. It's NOT her song. .
. [Edited 12/18/21 15:27pm] Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. |
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Reply #3 posted 12/18/21 3:25pm
Reply #4 posted 12/18/21 4:04pm
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laytonian said:
Prince threw that one away, I believe. Such a stunning song and it may end up being the one he's most remembered for, after Purple Rain.
I so wish he'd released it himself as a single, along with so many others.
But I'm confused about the mention of Sinead's album. Has it been re-nominated as a historical album? I don't see it on any list. It's NOT her song.
It was a single. It had a video, too. BUt sometimes those too-personal songs were things he gave to someone else, or just never released. It certainly wasn't a throwaway. That observation is obtuse.
An album doesn't get re-nominated. Maybe you misunderstood.
Sinead's album w/ the song was nominated in its release year, which makes the song nominated, as well as its own video nomination.
The song has been nominated again, this time by Chris Cornell.
The video is Cornell's daugther, singing the song.
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Reply #5 posted 12/18/21 6:14pm
PJMcGee
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Record of the Year is always given to a single song, so NC2U was nominated by itself. Female Pop Vocal was also for the song by itself. [Edited 12/18/21 18:15pm]
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Reply #6 posted 12/18/21 7:24pm
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I know people will think I'm crazy but for me, Chris did an amazing job and also the Family but Paul Peterson to this day still does this song the best. I never really was that fond of sineads version I always thought it got rather boring for a song that was really a soul song.
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Reply #7 posted 12/19/21 3:45am
nayroo2002
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Who is that on the piano?
Is that...Gene??? "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #8 posted 12/19/21 11:54am
Milty2 |
Nice performance. She looks so child like. |
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Reply #9 posted 12/19/21 12:35pm
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nayroo2002 said:
Who is that on the piano?
Is that...Gene???
How dare you insult that poor guy! haha
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #10 posted 12/20/21 11:12am
Se7en
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Chris Cornell's version is great. It's not Prince- or Sinead-level great, but it's great nonetheless. He reworks it just a bit to keep it interesting.
Side note: I don't much care for Cornell's "Billy Jean" cover. |
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Reply #11 posted 12/20/21 4:49pm
funkman88 |
Se7en said:
Chris Cornell's version is great. It's not Prince- or Sinead-level great, but it's great nonetheless. He reworks it just a bit to keep it interesting.
Side note: I don't much care for Cornell's "Billy Jean" cover.
itds better than Princes....more emotion and voice inflexion |
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Reply #12 posted 12/21/21 9:39am
nayroo2002
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funkman88 said:
Se7en said:
Chris Cornell's version is great. It's not Prince- or Sinead-level great, but it's great nonetheless. He reworks it just a bit to keep it interesting.
Side note: I don't much care for Cornell's "Billy Jean" cover.
itds better than Princes....more emotion and voice inflexion
What??!
I've never heard Prince's rendition of "Billie Jean" "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #13 posted 12/21/21 9:56am
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lastdecember said:
I know people will think I'm crazy but for me, Chris did an amazing job and also the Family but Paul Peterson to this day still does this song the best. I never really was that fond of sineads version I always thought it got rather boring for a song that was really a soul song.
I concur. |
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Reply #14 posted 12/21/21 5:26pm
EnDoRpHn
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AVENUEMAN said:
lastdecember said:
I know people will think I'm crazy but for me, Chris did an amazing job and also the Family but Paul Peterson to this day still does this song the best. I never really was that fond of sineads version I always thought it got rather boring for a song that was really a soul song.
I concur.
I hope everyone here knows what happened with that song.
Prince fired his original management team (Cavallo, Rufallo, and Fargnoli) in 1989. Fargnoli relocated to London, where he became O'Connor's manager, and less than a year later, had her record a cover of the song (compulsory licensing is an exception to commercial trademark), ostensibly as an F U to Prince (and certainly without consulting him or requesting his permission).
Everyone - especially someone like Fargnoli -- knew that Prince never allowed unaffiliated acts to cover his music, unless he initiated the offer. Although Prince received songwriting royalties, he was not happy that it was done. |
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Reply #15 posted 12/21/21 6:05pm
Milty2 |
EnDoRpHn said:
AVENUEMAN said:
I concur.
I hope everyone here knows what happened with that song.
Prince fired his original management team (Cavallo, Rufallo, and Fargnoli) in 1989. Fargnoli relocated to London, where he became O'Connor's manager, and less than a year later, had her record a cover of the song (compulsory licensing is an exception to commercial trademark), ostensibly as an F U to Prince (and certainly without consulting him or requesting his permission).
Everyone - especially someone like Fargnoli -- knew that Prince never allowed unaffiliated acts to cover his music, unless he initiated the offer. Although Prince received songwriting royalties, he was not happy that it was done.
In a way, Prince really got the last laugh - if he did laugh about it. He made a fortune off that song. 3.5 million sales later.... |
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Reply #16 posted 12/21/21 7:38pm
EnDoRpHn
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Milty2 said:
EnDoRpHn said:
I hope everyone here knows what happened with that song.
Prince fired his original management team (Cavallo, Rufallo, and Fargnoli) in 1989. Fargnoli relocated to London, where he became O'Connor's manager, and less than a year later, had her record a cover of the song (compulsory licensing is an exception to commercial trademark), ostensibly as an F U to Prince (and certainly without consulting him or requesting his permission).
Everyone - especially someone like Fargnoli -- knew that Prince never allowed unaffiliated acts to cover his music, unless he initiated the offer. Although Prince received songwriting royalties, he was not happy that it was done.
In a way, Prince really got the last laugh - if he did laugh about it. He made a fortune off that song. 3.5 million sales later....
I have it indexed somewhere, but in a c.2007 concert (LA I think?) he performed it and said "You know that Sinead O'Connor wrote this song, right?" After nervous chuckles from the audience, he says, "I bought me a house with that song."
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Reply #17 posted 12/21/21 7:40pm
SoulAlive |
EnDoRpHn said:
AVENUEMAN said:
lastdecember said:
I know people will think I'm crazy but for me, Chris did an amazing job and also the Family but Paul Peterson to this day still does this song the best. I never really was that fond of sineads version I always thought it got rather boring for a song that was really a soul song.
I concur.
I hope everyone here knows what happened with that song.
Prince fired his original management team (Cavallo, Rufallo, and Fargnoli) in 1989. Fargnoli relocated to London, where he became O'Connor's manager, and less than a year later, had her record a cover of the song (compulsory licensing is an exception to commercial trademark), ostensibly as an F U to Prince (and certainly without consulting him or requesting his permission).
Everyone - especially someone like Fargnoli -- knew that Prince never allowed unaffiliated acts to cover his music, unless he initiated the offer. Although Prince received songwriting royalties, he was not happy that it was done. Fargnoli,who was fired by Prince in early 1989,was really angry at Prince.I always wondered if he,as Sinead’s manager,had something to do with her outrageous accusations against Prince.Did he advise or encourage her to say those crazy things? |
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Reply #18 posted 12/21/21 7:48pm
EnDoRpHn
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SoulAlive said:
EnDoRpHn said:
I hope everyone here knows what happened with that song.
Prince fired his original management team (Cavallo, Rufallo, and Fargnoli) in 1989. Fargnoli relocated to London, where he became O'Connor's manager, and less than a year later, had her record a cover of the song (compulsory licensing is an exception to commercial trademark), ostensibly as an F U to Prince (and certainly without consulting him or requesting his permission).
Everyone - especially someone like Fargnoli -- knew that Prince never allowed unaffiliated acts to cover his music, unless he initiated the offer. Although Prince received songwriting royalties, he was not happy that it was done.
Fargnoli,who was fired by Prince in early 1989,was really angry at Prince.I always wondered if he,as Sinead’s manager,had something to do with her outrageous accusations against Prince.Did he advise or encourage her to say those crazy things?
No idea, but she did say in at least one interview that Fargnoli planted rumors that she was romantically involved with Prince as part of his efforts to promote the song.
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Reply #19 posted 12/21/21 9:31pm
funkman88 |
EnDoRpHn said:
AVENUEMAN said:
I concur.
I hope everyone here knows what happened with that song.
Prince fired his original management team (Cavallo, Rufallo, and Fargnoli) in 1989. Fargnoli relocated to London, where he became O'Connor's manager, and less than a year later, had her record a cover of the song (compulsory licensing is an exception to commercial trademark), ostensibly as an F U to Prince (and certainly without consulting him or requesting his permission).
Everyone - especially someone like Fargnoli -- knew that Prince never allowed unaffiliated acts to cover his music, unless he initiated the offer. Although Prince received songwriting royalties, he was not happy that it was done.
Owen Husney was his original management team not Cavallo,Rufallo and Spaghettioo... |
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Reply #20 posted 12/22/21 12:45am
EnDoRpHn
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funkman88 said:
Owen Husney was his original management team not Cavallo,Rufallo and Spaghettioo...
If you want to be pedantic, by that logic, Lavonne Daugherty was his original management team. |
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Reply #21 posted 12/22/21 1:59am
funkman88 |
EnDoRpHn said:
funkman88 said:
If you want to be pedantic, by that logic, Lavonne Daugherty was his original management team.
no u wrong owen got him his 1st deal thus 1st manager |
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Reply #22 posted 12/22/21 5:26am
Milty2 |
EnDoRpHn said:
Milty2 said:
In a way, Prince really got the last laugh - if he did laugh about it. He made a fortune off that song. 3.5 million sales later....
I have it indexed somewhere, but in a c.2007 concert (LA I think?) he performed it and said "You know that Sinead O'Connor wrote this song, right?" After nervous chuckles from the audience, he says, "I bought me a house with that song."
I saw her in the early 2000s in London and after she sang that song she muttered into the microphone under the applause "wankah". I thought it was funny. He was still making money every time she played that song live.
Having said that, I'm still a fan of hers. |
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Reply #23 posted 12/22/21 7:38am
EnDoRpHn
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funkman88 said:
EnDoRpHn said:
funkman88 said: If you want to be pedantic, by that logic, Lavonne Daugherty was his original management team.
no u wrong owen got him his 1st deal thus 1st manager
We already have one Bart here.
There is no I in TEAM. |
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Reply #24 posted 12/23/21 12:12am
Sydney |
I pretty much always prefer Prince's original versions - except for I Feel For You by Chaka which is just so I incredible - Arif, Stevie, Melle Mel, David Frank and of course Chaka Khan. |
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Reply #25 posted 12/23/21 8:59am
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Sydney said:
I pretty much always prefer Prince's original versions - except for I Feel For You by Chaka which is just so I incredible - Arif, Stevie, Melle Mel, David Frank and of course Chaka Khan.
It's a great pop song. Chaka said she never dug the rap part, and they lifted it from some other song. Which was weird to me. Why bother? If you take out the rap and just have the song, it's just as a strong. The vocals soar, the synths are juicy, the beat gets right up in ya ass.
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #26 posted 12/23/21 2:09pm
EnDoRpHn
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TrivialPursuit said:
Why bother? If you take out the rap and just have the song, it's just as a strong. The vocals soar, the synths are juicy, the beat gets right up in ya ass.
I agree it would be just as strong, but the rap intro and scratching accounted for a huge part of the song's cross-format popularity.
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Reply #27 posted 12/23/21 2:43pm
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EnDoRpHn said:
TrivialPursuit said:
Why bother? If you take out the rap and just have the song, it's just as a strong. The vocals soar, the synths are juicy, the beat gets right up in ya ass.
I agree it would be just as strong, but the rap intro and scratching accounted for a huge part of the song's cross-format popularity.
Totally agree, but had we never heard it, we'd never have missed it. Maybe I could take an instrumental and mix a non-rap version. Hmmmm....
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #28 posted 12/24/21 8:48am
steakfinger |
lastdecember said:
I know people will think I'm crazy but for me, Chris did an amazing job and also the Family but Paul Peterson to this day still does this song the best. I never really was that fond of sineads version I always thought it got rather boring for a song that was really a soul song.
I feel exactly the opposite: Sinead has the best version, the recently released Price vocal version is second, the live version from The Hits is a distant third, and the version on The Family abum is an embarrassment solely because of the overwraught vocals. Way too cheesy. |
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Reply #29 posted 12/24/21 11:35am
GaryMF
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steakfinger said:
lastdecember said:
I know people will think I'm crazy but for me, Chris did an amazing job and also the Family but Paul Peterson to this day still does this song the best. I never really was that fond of sineads version I always thought it got rather boring for a song that was really a soul song.
I feel exactly the opposite: Sinead has the best version, the recently released Price vocal version is second, the live version from The Hits is a distant third, and the version on The Family abum is an embarrassment solely because of the overwraught vocals. Way too cheesy.
I think Paul's vocals and the arrangement on the Family are the best.
Paul's voice has a rich tone and timbre which Prince's doesn't.
Sinead's is a whine-fest.
The strings combined with Eric's sax on the Family version seal the deal. |
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