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Emancipation Appreciation Thread Do you all agree with me that Emancipation is top tier Prince? It's so consistently good that it's easy to overlook individual peaks of the album, which is why it requires so many listens to really appreciate. It's an album that is hard to tire of simply because of how much there is to discover in it. I love all the discs equally wouldnt personally want an abridged version but my favorite 10 tracks are: Jam Of The Year White Mansion Sex In The Summer One Kiss At A Time Emale Savior Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife Style Sleep Around My Computer How do you rank this album generally and what are your top 10 tracks? | |
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It's not top tier, but it's a high second tier. It was the beginning of his acrylic production phase that lasted for another 20 years. The Love We Make Saviour Emale Damned If Do White Mansion Courtin' Time In This Bed Scream Sleep Around Right Back Here In My Arms
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I have strong memories from this album's release and it was definitely not what I expected following Come/Gold/Chaos... But I do have some favorites. I don't mind that it's sprawling. At the time I remember being surprised none were songs he was doing live but hadnt released yet like Hide the Bone or Funky Design. Some all-time favorites: Let's Have A Baby, Holy River, Saviour, Joint 2 Joint, Courtin Time, Somebody's Somebody, and The Love We Make. | |
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LoveGalore said: I have strong memories from this album's release and it was definitely not what I expected following Come/Gold/Chaos... But I do have some favorites. I don't mind that it's sprawling. At the time I remember being surprised none were songs he was doing live but hadnt released yet like Hide the Bone or Funky Design. Some all-time favorites: Let's Have A Baby, Holy River, Saviour, Joint 2 Joint, Courtin Time, Somebody's Somebody, and The Love We Make. I don't think I've ever heard Funky Design before. Will have to check it out. | |
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For me, I'd rank Emancipation around Chaos & Disorder tier. I think since there are many tracks on it, there is probably something for everyone on the album. . My Top 10 . The Holy River White Mansion My Computer In This Bed I Scream Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife Right Back Here In My Arms Saviour Emancipation Mr. Happy Dreamin' About You | |
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I really like this album too. I still listen to it on a pretty regular basis, but have to admit its been awhile since I've listened to it all the way through. I do remember being somewhat disappointed when it was released, as I needed time for it to simmer, but over the years it has definitely grown on me.
Some of the Top songs for me:
The Love We Make Face Down Sleep Around In This Bed I Scream White Mansion Joint 2 Joint My Computer Style Damned if I Do Right Back Here in My Arms Holy River Savior | |
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I should add, Disk 1 on shuffle is good in just about any order it comes up. Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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TrivialPursuit said: I should add, Disk 1 on shuffle is good in just about any order it comes up. I wonder how that would play out with disc 2. I think if I had to pick one it'd be that one, but thankfully I don't haha Still - interesting thought. Would change the feel so much, but the album is a little homogenous despite the immense ground covered. | |
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Emancipation is great, there's something for everyone. I'm not playing the one disc compilation game again though. RIP | |
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- And there you said it all, and i agree for 91,73%, something like that. - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Lots of filler (mostly on disc 3) but often in my top 5 Prince albums. Most of disc 1 has aged well over the years and I always loved disc 2 as a favorite. * For me, this was the last "new" Prince album that, upon release, had some straight up "jams". After this, the next few "new" albums sometimes had a decent song or 2 but this, to me, closed out the Prince era.
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SIDENOTE- one of my favorite memories from this album was being active on alt.music.prince on AOL. Around '95'-'96, there was a user on there before the album came out named "BedIScream" that people suspected might be Prince... | |
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one of his best 90s albums for sure
sex in the summer though, i cant listen to it without cringing at the lyrics.
seems totally lacking in conviction | |
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The drum programming on albums such as 1999 and Sign o' the Times was fresh, orginial, futuristic in some cases, and like nothing else on the radio. In the 1980s, Prince was five years ahead of everyone else when it came to drum machines. | |
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top tier stuff on this -
cant make u love me soul sancutary curious child dreamin about u holy river lets have a baby the plan my computer one of us love we make
2nd tier - right back here somebody somebody courtin time betcha by... white mansion damned if i do in this bed one kiss emale joint to joint saviour friendloversister... slave new world human body sleep around la la la means... emancipation
3rd tier - everything else
courtin time is a good addition to that delirious, jack u off, etc, princes rockabilly type songs, but its a bit flat.
the club/party songs on here are often really quite boring and i just dont buy them at ALL. this is a domestic, married man type album. not a party, in the club, 'checking out the cuties' type album.
if the tracks werent all extended for no reason it would be better. but that just messes up a lot of the otherwise pretty listenable material. the production is mostly bland, which is a shame, as theres good stuff here. but for me, the over long songs, and how robbed of spontaneity this is ruins it for me.
sleep around should have been edited and made into a single btw. great song. totally commercial and generic, but great.
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I totally agree! It's on of his best albums. So many diffent type of songs. But this is surely an album for the hardcore fans. I have my 15-ish favorites that i return to on a regular basis, such as:
Jam of the... somebody's... White mansion' in this bed i ... soul sanctuary' joint to joint holy river lets have a baby savior human body sleep around my computer the love we make emancipation
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I really like a lot of the songs off the 3 CD set Emancipation but I must admit my favourite tracklist/running order of the album is the one Prince gifted an employee which makes up the boot "The Secret Chapter". I like the flow of this record and ALL the songs. Felt focused and concise to me not like a 3 hour tour de force proving he's the baddest. Great period though and some amazing songs!
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Though I agree with the plastic production criticism, my impression is that this album marks the point where he really went full throttle to bring out as much music as he could and wanted which simultanously ended the era of very concise and carefully assembled albums.
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This is actually his best 90s album, it's just buried inside 3 hours of audio dumping lol Prince was doing big music dumping and overstuffed spotify albums 2 decades two early lol | |
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: This is actually his best 90s album, it's just buried inside 3 hours of audio dumping lol Prince was doing big music dumping and overstuffed spotify albums 2 decades two early lol I don't think Emancipation can touch the cohesive brilliance of the symbol album and it certainly has less interesting polish than TGE. I'd say it is, at best, tied with Rave (also a painfully underrated album). | |
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It’s the best 90s era, outtakes wise. However, the album itself is full of fillers, once you weed them out, you can make a great tracklist of a strong cohesive album. Oh & btw, I love his version of “One of Us”. I’ll fight anyone who says otherwise and I’ll happily die on this hill | |
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it never quite works as an album when i try to do it but theres prob a good 2 disc set in here that woud work better than a 3 cd set. i think a single disc set is just too small.
1. jam of the year right back here somebodys somebody courtin time white mansion damned if i do cant make u love me (guitar feedback from end of mr happy) in this bed i scream one kiss at a time soul sanctuary emale curious child dreamin about u
2. joint to joint holy river lets have a baby saviour the plan friendloversister... slave human body sleep around my computer one of us love we make emancipation [Edited 10/31/21 2:27am] | |
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Emale and My Computer get way too much love. Those are his two absolutely most dated songs ever. Hell they were dated when he released them! "I scan my computer looking for a site"??? Cringe so hard my eyes burst. | |
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The lyrics don't matter. Its about the other stuff. Anyways Netscape browsing and AOL were glorious lol | |
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LoveGalore said: Emale and My Computer get way too much love. Those are his two absolutely most dated songs ever. Hell they were dated when he released them! "I scan my computer looking for a site"??? Cringe so hard my eyes burst. Hahaha it's funny because the first few years I would be like "oh noooo those lyrics noooo but THAT MELODY WHAT" and eventually I just accepted the lyrics Singing about tech is dangerous when it advances that fast. His other option is to not talk about it, but specifically My Computer says a lot about a changing world and the ways we connect (or don't). Everything with a specific anything dates itself. Not the songs fault imo. The important point remains. I wouldn't fault a photo for having an AOL disc on it in the same way. + this is the same as the Kate Bush song A Deeper Understanding, which is similarly "dated" lyrically But absolutely astounding musically. I'm sure that's why P had Kate do backing vox on My Computer. | |
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“Emale” is my favorite song on this album.It has a dark,moody vibe and a very catchy,hypnotic chorus.Great track! | |
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i like emale, but its kind of like a la la hee hee type song, like he issued himself a challenge to write a song about email and thats what he came up with. not many people could make it work but he did somehow. | |
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Lyrics might not be the be-all, end-all but prince was indeed a lyricist. Any kind of reference to cultural ephemera is going to make a song sound dated as shit and affect how we perceive them. So yeah, Emale and My Computer are pretty cringe to me. So is U're Gonna See Me and the two-way page lyric. In the context of the 3 disc set, perhaps these cringe songs fit and are okay. There's plenty else to consider on the album. But on a single disc where each song has that much more prominence, I'm a bit more discerning. Musically, I don't think Emale or My Computer add much. This is an album with musical masterpieces on it, great sections of interesting and compelling sounds that add to Prince's legacy in a notable way. These songs? Blah. Anyway, this album couldn't be a satisfying single disc to any two Prince fans, but: Slave Da Da Da (minus Scrap D) Joint 2 Joint Holy River Courtin Time Let's Have A Baby One Kiss At A Time Style Dreamin About U Somebody's Somebody The Love We Make Saviour | |
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the thing is that most of this album is very mid-late 90s anyway
the www refernces in those songs are not dated to me as it was relevant at that time.
it captures a certian excitment about internet communication and relationships in the 90s
its not like when prince sung 'you can just page me' on planet earth when that album was released waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay after the heyday of pagers
any one who includes da da da and style but hates my computer might have to just consider that their view is highly personal and not objectively correct lol [Edited 10/8/21 5:08am] | |
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