"Chelsea Afternoon" is a direct reference to Joni Mitchell's "Chelsea Morning." We all know Prince loved Joni.

Vannormal said:

purplethunder3121 said:

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I laughed so hard and loud, i fell off my chair,

and my collegue rushes in asking what the hell is going on,

so i showed her this.

She's still texting me and can't stop laughing eiter.

I think it's the question mark at the end that really does it.

LOL

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purplethunder3121 said:

I do find this period in Prince's career the most shrounded in mystery.

I remember there being lots of rumours and whispers to what was happening.

There were also some crazy news articles that fuelled the mystery and confusion.

In summary it was alledged Prince treated Mayte extremely badly during her pregnancy. Some say this added complications to the baby's development.

Then there is what the twins had to say - the two sisters (Erlene and Arlene Mojica) employed to look after Mayte and to nurse the child once born.

If the allegations were to be true, then Mayte should have left a long, long time before the baby was born - maybe things would have turned out differently.

Ultimately we only know the rumours and I suppose we will never know the truth.

A truly terribly sad and difficuly time for all involved.

paisleypark4 said:

No, only in song as some had mentioned.
Just because it is a sensetive subject doesnt mean we don't know about it or should not have discussed it. Especially those who werent there for when it all happened. Mayte revealed a lot about it in her book.

Come Back

[Verse 1]
Walking up the stairs
Chelsea afternoon
Sweet wind blew
And not a moment too soon, hoo
I cried when I realized
That sweet wind was you

[Verse 2]
Spirits come and spirits go
Some stick around for the aftershow
I don't have to say I miss you
(Don't have to say I miss you)
'Cause I think you already know, oh

[Verse 3]
If you ever lose someone dear to you
Never say the words
"They're gone"
And they'll come back, yeah
They'll come back, yeah
They'll come back
Tears go here

I cosign.

I haven't heard of anything and tbh, I'm ok if I don't get that info. I'm not a father yet, but I can only imagine that the death of your own flesh and blood would be so traumatic that, as a celebrity, it would be the only thing you wouldn't talk about publicly. If that's the case, I understand his decision and my heart goes out to Mayte for having to live with that to this day.

PennyPurple said:

motherfunka said:

I remember all the speculation at that time of whether the baby was alive or had passed. He hadn't played at Paisley Park since December 1995, then all the sudden he does two shows the same week the baby had passed. I though at the time, the baby must be alive, or why would he be doing this? I guess that was his way of coping. Sad.

The baby died on October 23rd; the shows were October 26 and 27.
The set lists for those shows included The Cross, One of Us....sad.

[URL]http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=26_October_1996-aml[URL]

FunkiestOne said:

cblu said:

in public or private (that we've heard of second-hand of course).

I don't think so. Unless someone heard something I haven't.

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Yes in the Neal Karlen book

I'm not sure I believe everything in that book.

darkroman said:

In summary it was alledged Prince treated Mayte extremely badly during her pregnancy. Some say this added complications to the baby's development.

Then there is what the twins had to say - the two sisters (Erlene and Arlene Mojica) employed to look after Mayte and to nurse the child once born.
A truly terribly sad and difficuly time for all involved.

WTF?
FIRST of all, that child's fate was sealed at conception. It's a genetic condition and has nothing to do with nutrition or the mother's mental state.

SECONDLY, one of those twins was to be a nanny. The other was Mayte's personal assistant. Neither was there to nurse the child.

MAYBE before you repeat rumors and spiel crap, you should read Mayte's book. He quit performing, they both read books on pregnancy and becoming parents, made sure they ate healthy. True, he didn't want genetic testing done during pregnancy due to the risk of miscarriage BUT...that did not change the outcome. He was playing it as safe as a worried father could.

When the baby was born, he was the one at the hospital, in the baby's room, talking to the doctors, trying to save the child's life...going home once to shower in a week.

No wonder he kept things private with all the bullshit swirling around.

darkroman said:

I remember there being lots of rumours and whispers to what was happening.

There were also some crazy news articles that fuelled the mystery and confusion.

In summary it was alledged Prince treated Mayte extremely badly during her pregnancy. Some say this added complications to the baby's development.

That is bullshit. If someone believes "rumors and whispers" or "crazy news articles," then that's their reward.

Y'all act like Prince was making her dance until she gave birth, then had her running a marathon a week after. The hyperbole is astounding.

paisleypark4 said:

laytonian said:

darkroman said:

In summary it was alledged Prince treated Mayte extremely badly during her pregnancy. Some say this added complications to the baby's development.

Then there is what the twins had to say - the two sisters (Erlene and Arlene Mojica) employed to look after Mayte and to nurse the child once born.
A truly terribly sad and difficuly time for all involved.

WTF?
FIRST of all, that child's fate was sealed at conception. It's a genetic condition and has nothing to do with nutrition or the mother's mental state.

SECONDLY, one of those twins was to be a nanny. The other was Mayte's personal assistant. Neither was there to nurse the child.

MAYBE before you repeat rumors and spiel crap, you should read Mayte's book. He quit performing, they both read books on pregnancy and becoming parents, made sure they ate healthy. True, he didn't want genetic testing done during pregnancy due to the risk of miscarriage BUT...that did not change the outcome. He was playing it as safe as a worried father could.

When the baby was born, he was the one at the hospital, in the baby's room, talking to the doctors, trying to save the child's life...going home once to shower in a week.

No wonder he kept things private with all the bullshit swirling around.

I appreciate English isn't your first language.

I am not adding fact or opinion to any of this.

I am merely representing the historical context of what the media was speculating at the time of Mayte's pregnancy. It is all there is the news clippings from the time. As a fan, I am sure you also have those news clippings.

Erlene and Arlene Mojica even did interviews expressing their concern over how Prince was treating Maybe. Interestingly they claim Prince forced a very bizarre diet on Mayte which some speculate hindered the baby's development.

True or false, this is what was reported in the media. You can't rewrite history and you can't create Prince into a person you want him to be just because you don't like / nor believe what you read / hear.

paisleypark4 said:

Okay, that's fine. But what you are talking about was decades ago. People don't get over losing a just born child but they do move on with life in all the decades ahead. Tired of this subject. Prince wasn't the only person to lose a new born...