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princes best 90s/00s rock songs Tougher than you might think I go for - Dolphin Holy river The love we make One of us Shhhh Papa |
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Dreamer (bullshit lyrics aside) Fury Cinnamon Girl Interactive Endorphinmachine I've put zero thought into this and just named 5 songs off the top of my head that I like. There are more than likely others. | |
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Dolphin Cinnamon Girl Papa Loose! Pheromone Laydown Guitar Beginning Endlessly FUNKNROLL Da Bang Calhoun Square Strays of the World (someone has to like it) The Same December Get Yo Groove On Another Love MARZ Planet Earth We Can Funk Shake!
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I Like it There If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am. | |
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da bang is a great one. but get yo groove on and sleep around are rock songs? |
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Half of those tracks aren't, but neither is "Shhh" or "Holy River" really. |
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"Rock ‘N’ Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis)" |
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shhh is more complicated as it has all those big dramatic breaks which are like jazz-rock fusion, even if the main body of the song is a slow jam
holy river is def a pop rock song just cos its not all guitars blazing, its def still very much a rock song id say |
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Sleep Around ,Get Your Groove On and Face Down are not rock at all. My pick is I Like It There,Chaos And Disorder,Dolphin,Endorphin Machine,Interactive,CInnamon Girl,Another Love ,A Million Days... | |
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Endorphinmachine Dolphin Chaos and Disorder I like it there The Same December Right the Wrong Zannalee Da Bang Strays of the World Damned if eye do Planet Earth Boom Wall of Berlin
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Elephants and Flowers Joy In Repetition Live 4 Love Loose So Far So Pleased Fury Colonized Mind I know I'm likely missing a lot - but I've often thought Prince had a sort of, ahem, strange relationship with rock music. I don't personally feel as though he really modernized and completed his views and styles of rock. I have often thought that had he ever gotten into more punk, of the hard-core variety mostly, that he could have seriously strengthened his sound for most of the listeners who couldn't get it. The independent and alternative rock explosions of the early 90s could have been a really interesting mixture with his sound in a tougher and non-pretentious way. I don't know if P ever listened to Soundgarden or Nirvana or not but if he had I think influences of those kind would have been interesting - and critically less derided. | |
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Curious, whats "bullshit" about Dreamer? | |
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26ten said: Elephants and Flowers Joy In Repetition Live 4 Love Loose So Far So Pleased Fury Colonized Mind I know I'm likely missing a lot - but I've often thought Prince had a sort of, ahem, strange relationship with rock music. I don't personally feel as though he really modernized and completed his views and styles of rock. I have often thought that had he ever gotten into more punk, of the hard-core variety mostly, that he could have seriously strengthened his sound for most of the listeners who couldn't get it. The independent and alternative rock explosions of the early 90s could have been a really interesting mixture with his sound in a tougher and non-pretentious way. I don't know if P ever listened to Soundgarden or Nirvana or not but if he had I think influences of those kind would have been interesting - and critically less derided. Loose is not a rock song, people. Hello? | |
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WOW Marz Colonized Mind Dreamer The One U Wanna C Fury Cinnamon Girl The Marrying Kind I Like It There Zannalee C&D The Same December Endorphinmachine Dolphin
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Yeah his R&B or Funk influences, for instance, were clearly about taking the parts he loved and progressing the genres to the next level, whereas the Rock stuff is very steeped in 70s/early 80s conceptions of rock, even into the 90s and 00s.
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LoveGalore said: 26ten said: Elephants and Flowers Joy In Repetition Live 4 Love Loose So Far So Pleased Fury Colonized Mind I know I'm likely missing a lot - but I've often thought Prince had a sort of, ahem, strange relationship with rock music. I don't personally feel as though he really modernized and completed his views and styles of rock. I have often thought that had he ever gotten into more punk, of the hard-core variety mostly, that he could have seriously strengthened his sound for most of the listeners who couldn't get it. The independent and alternative rock explosions of the early 90s could have been a really interesting mixture with his sound in a tougher and non-pretentious way. I don't know if P ever listened to Soundgarden or Nirvana or not but if he had I think influences of those kind would have been interesting - and critically less derided. Loose is not a rock song, people. Hello? Yes it is! There is a rock guitar solo in it even? It's pretty clearly a take on the then burgeoning industrial rock of the time. NIN, Ministry, Marilyn Manson, etc. These, and the song Loose, are absolutely rock. | |
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WhisperingDandelions said:
Yeah his R&B or Funk influences, for instance, were clearly about taking the parts he loved and progressing the genres to the next level, whereas the Rock stuff is very steeped in 70s/early 80s conceptions of rock, even into the 90s and 00s.
[Edited 10/7/21 16:55pm] Nice! Yep yep! 100% on this. It's... I mean idk I guess having grown up in the 90s it's fairly obvious but without hearing all the industrial rock bands then I could see how someone might not know (those bands multiplied like rabbits later in the decade and early 2000s haha). | |
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It's not true that Prince didn't know punk.Early Prince was punk b4 the glamour stepped in.Check live versions of Annie Christian or 1982 re arrangment of Bambi.Prince was also checking punk bands in the local Mpls club.a guy who did song for one of the Rocky movies The Heat Is On ,his name escapes me ,i think he was a bass player for Plasmatics at certain point.he said Prince went to see the band in Mpls rock club i think it was called The Sams or something like that.Prince also performed there.also Prince's 90s rock showcase that he indeed was listening whats going on on alternative rock scene.Maybe Prince loved 70s hard rock the most but his ears and eyes were cleary open to the changes amd new tendencies of rock music.he even did some of the 80s heavy metal with MC Flash. | |
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No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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26ten said: LoveGalore said: Loose is not a rock song, people. Hello? Yes it is! There is a rock guitar solo in it even? It's pretty clearly a take on the then burgeoning industrial rock of the time. NIN, Ministry, Marilyn Manson, etc. These, and the song Loose, are absolutely rock. Loose is an attempt at techno, one he refined a bit later with New World and Human Body. A guitar solo doesn't make it a rock song. And he wasn't competing with Manson in 1993. You could say he took, uh, inspiration from NIN maybe given the hype around Pretty Hate Machine was that Trent envisioned it as a "dark" side of 1999. | |
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Gold comes to mind | |
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Curious, whats "bullshit" about Dreamer? The dopey conspiracy theory lyrics about chemtrails. Makes him come across like some sort of headcase. | |
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LoveGalore said: 26ten said: Yes it is! There is a rock guitar solo in it even? It's pretty clearly a take on the then burgeoning industrial rock of the time. NIN, Ministry, Marilyn Manson, etc. These, and the song Loose, are absolutely rock. Loose is an attempt at techno, one he refined a bit later with New World and Human Body. A guitar solo doesn't make it a rock song. And he wasn't competing with Manson in 1993. You could say he took, uh, inspiration from NIN maybe given the hype around Pretty Hate Machine was that Trent envisioned it as a "dark" side of 1999. That is a *rock guitar* solo pretty clearly - and you're sort of conceding the point by saying he is (again very obviously) taking inspiration from the leading industrial rock group of the time. I'm not really into semantics games here but someone viewing Loose as industrial rock is really not too controversial of an opinion, as you basically admit here. Also the songs you cited that he did later are quite different from Loose. + yes in many ways he absolutely was competing with Marilyn Manson and any other shocking upstarts of the 90s and later. His entire 90s era was basically him trying to figure out how to remain relevant in a different time than the 80s, and songs like Loose show how aware he was of those shifting trends. It's the same reason he employed rap influences despite his frustration with it initially. | |
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26ten said: LoveGalore said: Loose is an attempt at techno, one he refined a bit later with New World and Human Body. A guitar solo doesn't make it a rock song. And he wasn't competing with Manson in 1993. You could say he took, uh, inspiration from NIN maybe given the hype around Pretty Hate Machine was that Trent envisioned it as a "dark" side of 1999. That is a *rock guitar* solo pretty clearly - and you're sort of conceding the point by saying he is (again very obviously) taking inspiration from the leading industrial rock group of the time. I'm not really into semantics games here but someone viewing Loose as industrial rock is really not too controversial of an opinion, as you basically admit here. Also the songs you cited that he did later are quite different from Loose. + yes in many ways he absolutely was competing with Marilyn Manson and any other shocking upstarts of the 90s and later. His entire 90s era was basically him trying to figure out how to remain relevant in a different time than the 80s, and songs like Loose show how aware he was of those shifting trends. It's the same reason he employed rap influences despite his frustration with it initially. Marilyn Manson didn't release their first album until 2 years after Loose! was recorded. It's definitely not a rock song though. Call it industrial if you must. | |
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Prince was never gonna do a DC hardcore or punk project really He never did music that hard He usually always tempered it a bit He was less interested in what was happening in rock after the 80s Which is why he lost his edge as an innovator in a sense as in.the 80s he was listening to everything In the 90s and esp the 00s he was retreating into his own older influences and more rnb and rap influences even if he did try to keep up with dance music a little bit. But I think that happens to everyone, you vajt he totally in sync forever |
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: Prince was never gonna do a DC hardcore or punk project really He never did music that hard He usually always tempered it a bit He was less interested in what was happening in rock after the 80s Which is why he lost his edge as an innovator in a sense as in.the 80s he was listening to everything In the 90s and esp the 00s he was retreating into his own older influences and more rnb and rap influences even if he did try to keep up with dance music a little bit. But I think that happens to everyone, you vajt he totally in sync forever I agree with you on that fully. He continued to make incredible music regardless - but I'd have loved to hear his music from a parallel timeline. I guess it just means there is still not enough Prince music out there, which sound absurdly greedy of me. | |
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