For those that attended these Concerts, especially musicians, What was it like having 3 Keyboardist in the line up? Very Rare for Prince to use 3 Keyboardist, wonder what was his thinking in doing so?

And the CA stand says 21 Nite Stand but it shows only 18 including (15 in Inglewood, 1 in Fresno and 2 in San Jose)... So why is it called as 21 Nite Stand?

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Astasheiks said:

And the CA stand says 21 Nite Stand but it shows only 18 including (15 in Inglewood, 1 in Fresno and 2 in San Jose)... So why is it called as 21 Nite Stand?

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The concerts were often a complete bust audience-wise (the one on the Blu-ray was one of those), and thus they never got to the 21 nights and then decided to justify it by counting other concerts in the area, including even a TV performance and aftershows.

BartVanHemelen said:

Astasheiks said:

And the CA stand says 21 Nite Stand but it shows only 18 including (15 in Inglewood, 1 in Fresno and 2 in San Jose)... So why is it called as 21 Nite Stand?

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The concerts were often a complete bust audience-wise (the one on the Blu-ray was one of those), and thus they never got to the 21 nights and then decided to justify it by counting other concerts in the area, including even a TV performance and aftershows.

and an aftershow isn't a concert?

nextedition said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The concerts were often a complete bust audience-wise (the one on the Blu-ray was one of those), and thus they never got to the 21 nights and then decided to justify it by counting other concerts in the area, including even a TV performance and aftershows.

and an aftershow isn't a concert?

Prince did 21 nights in London and played at many of the aftershows. That's not referred to as 30 nights in London, or whatever it was with the aftershow tally. So I don't think we would count an aftershow in a residency labelled as xx nights. If it was xx shows in a place, then yeah, we would count them.

In London the original plan wasn't to do 21 nights at the O2, it was 21 nights in London and they announced some O2 dates. I believe the intention was to do smaller venues later but the O2 shows kept selling. So counting smaller venues on different nights in the list is fine but not aftershows.

BartVanHemelen said:

Astasheiks said:

And the CA stand says 21 Nite Stand but it shows only 18 including (15 in Inglewood, 1 in Fresno and 2 in San Jose)... So why is it called as 21 Nite Stand?

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The concerts were often a complete bust audience-wise (the one on the Blu-ray was one of those), and thus they never got to the 21 nights and then decided to justify it by counting other concerts in the area, including even a TV performance and aftershows.

Well this didn't seem like a bust...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMY4NFW7GkI

there was three shows in one night at the house of blues and 2 shows at the troubador club so it was actualy 23 shows for los angeles

Astasheiks said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The concerts were often a complete bust audience-wise (the one on the Blu-ray was one of those), and thus they never got to the 21 nights and then decided to justify it by counting other concerts in the area, including even a TV performance and aftershows.

Well this didn't seem like a bust...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMY4NFW7GkI

The show wasn't a sell-out show. In fact, they ended up dropping the ticket price before the concert because they had so many unsold tickets.

Astasheiks said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The concerts were often a complete bust audience-wise (the one on the Blu-ray was one of those), and thus they never got to the 21 nights and then decided to justify it by counting other concerts in the area, including even a TV performance and aftershows.

Well this didn't seem like a bust...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMY4NFW7GkI

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Why bother with facts, right? http://www.princevault.co...pril_2011

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With tickets going on sale for this show only two days before showtime, tickets were far from sold out. Only a few thousand people made it to the Forum. Around 9 PM, there were so much tickets left they started selling them for $10 at the Forum Box office.

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The colonnade section of the Forum was shut off and patrons who had tickets there were upgraded to sections closer to the stage.

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FYI that venue seats 17,500. So "a few thousand people" is gonna make that venue look pretty empty. Hence the shenanigans.

Astasheiks said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The concerts were often a complete bust audience-wise (the one on the Blu-ray was one of those), and thus they never got to the 21 nights and then decided to justify it by counting other concerts in the area, including even a TV performance and aftershows.

Well this didn't seem like a bust...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMY4NFW7GkI

Comment deleted - l'ange bleu - moderator

seeing as how BVH likes facts...just 93% tix sold & c35MILLION in small change.....FFS...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_2

Box office score data[edit]

VenueCityTickets sold / availableGross revenue Madison Square Garden[A] New York City 70,855 / 72,911 (97%) $7,592,092[36] Oracle Arena Oakland 42,475 / 42,475 (100%) $4,418,308[37] Save Mart Center Fresno 11,918 / 13,028 (91%) $837,960[38] Bell Centre Montreal 8,753 / 10,900 (80%) $1,113,260[39] John Labatt Centre London 8,790 / 9,053 (97%) $958,695[39] Halifax Metro Centre Halifax 10,039 / 10,039 (100%) $1,000,320[40] Rexall Place Edmonton 10,775 / 16,258 (66%) $1,119,660[41] Allphones Arena Sydney 39,827 / 44,118 (90%) $7,182,190[42] Rod Laver Arena Melbourne 42,086 / 42,900 (98%) $7,540,270[43] Brisbane Entertainment Centre Boondall 17,798 / 20,036 (84%) $3,212,670[44] TOTAL 263,316 / 281,718 (93%) $34,975,425

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

seeing as how BVH likes facts...just 93% tix sold & c35MILLION in small change.....FFS...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_2

Box office score data[edit]

VenueCityTickets sold / availableGross revenue Madison Square Garden[A] New York City 70,855 / 72,911 (97%) $7,592,092[36] Oracle Arena Oakland 42,475 / 42,475 (100%) $4,418,308[37] Save Mart Center Fresno 11,918 / 13,028 (91%) $837,960[38] Bell Centre Montreal 8,753 / 10,900 (80%) $1,113,260[39] John Labatt Centre London 8,790 / 9,053 (97%) $958,695[39] Halifax Metro Centre Halifax 10,039 / 10,039 (100%) $1,000,320[40] Rexall Place Edmonton 10,775 / 16,258 (66%) $1,119,660[41] Allphones Arena Sydney 39,827 / 44,118 (90%) $7,182,190[42] Rod Laver Arena Melbourne 42,086 / 42,900 (98%) $7,540,270[43] Brisbane Entertainment Centre Boondall 17,798 / 20,036 (84%) $3,212,670[44] TOTAL 263,316 / 281,718 (93%) $34,975,425

Notes

[Edited 8/11/21 6:24am]

Box office score data[edit]

Venue	City	Tickets sold / available	Gross revenue
Madison Square Garden[A]	New York City	70,855 / 72,911 (97%)	$7,592,092[36]
Oracle Arena	Oakland	42,475 / 42,475 (100%)	$4,418,308[37]
Save Mart Center	Fresno	11,918 / 13,028 (91%)	$837,960[38]
Bell Centre	Montreal	8,753 / 10,900 (80%)	$1,113,260[39]
John Labatt Centre	London	8,790 / 9,053 (97%)	$958,695[39]
Halifax Metro Centre	Halifax	10,039 / 10,039 (100%)	$1,000,320[40]
Rexall Place	Edmonton	10,775 / 16,258 (66%)	$1,119,660[41]
Allphones Arena	Sydney	39,827 / 44,118 (90%)	$7,182,190[42]
Rod Laver Arena	Melbourne	42,086 / 42,900 (98%)	$7,540,270[43]
Brisbane Entertainment Centre	Boondall	17,798 / 20,036 (84%)	$3,212,670[44]
TOTAL		263,316 / 281,718 (93%)	$34,975,425

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

seeing as how BVH likes facts...just 93% tix sold & c35MILLION in small change.....FFS...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_2

Box office score data[edit]

VenueCityTickets sold / availableGross revenue Madison Square Garden[A] New York City 70,855 / 72,911 (97%) $7,592,092[36] Oracle Arena Oakland 42,475 / 42,475 (100%) $4,418,308[37] Save Mart Center Fresno 11,918 / 13,028 (91%) $837,960[38] Bell Centre Montreal 8,753 / 10,900 (80%) $1,113,260[39] John Labatt Centre London 8,790 / 9,053 (97%) $958,695[39] Halifax Metro Centre Halifax 10,039 / 10,039 (100%) $1,000,320[40] Rexall Place Edmonton 10,775 / 16,258 (66%) $1,119,660[41] Allphones Arena Sydney 39,827 / 44,118 (90%) $7,182,190[42] Rod Laver Arena Melbourne 42,086 / 42,900 (98%) $7,540,270[43] Brisbane Entertainment Centre Boondall 17,798 / 20,036 (84%) $3,212,670[44] TOTAL 263,316 / 281,718 (93%) $34,975,425

Notes

[Edited 8/11/21 6:24am]

Box office score data[edit]

Venue	City	Tickets sold / available	Gross revenue
Madison Square Garden[A]	New York City	70,855 / 72,911 (97%)	$7,592,092[36]
Oracle Arena	Oakland	42,475 / 42,475 (100%)	$4,418,308[37]
Save Mart Center	Fresno	11,918 / 13,028 (91%)	$837,960[38]
Bell Centre	Montreal	8,753 / 10,900 (80%)	$1,113,260[39]
John Labatt Centre	London	8,790 / 9,053 (97%)	$958,695[39]
Halifax Metro Centre	Halifax	10,039 / 10,039 (100%)	$1,000,320[40]
Rexall Place	Edmonton	10,775 / 16,258 (66%)	$1,119,660[41]
Allphones Arena	Sydney	39,827 / 44,118 (90%)	$7,182,190[42]
Rod Laver Arena	Melbourne	42,086 / 42,900 (98%)	$7,540,270[43]
Brisbane Entertainment Centre	Boondall	17,798 / 20,036 (84%)	$3,212,670[44]
TOTAL		263,316 / 281,718 (93%)	$34,975,425

Notes

Those numbers most definitely doesn't appear to be those of a bust...

pdiddy2011 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Box office score data[edit]

Venue	City	Tickets sold / available	Gross revenue
Madison Square Garden[A]	New York City	70,855 / 72,911 (97%)	$7,592,092[36]
Oracle Arena	Oakland	42,475 / 42,475 (100%)	$4,418,308[37]
Save Mart Center	Fresno	11,918 / 13,028 (91%)	$837,960[38]
Bell Centre	Montreal	8,753 / 10,900 (80%)	$1,113,260[39]
John Labatt Centre	London	8,790 / 9,053 (97%)	$958,695[39]
Halifax Metro Centre	Halifax	10,039 / 10,039 (100%)	$1,000,320[40]
Rexall Place	Edmonton	10,775 / 16,258 (66%)	$1,119,660[41]
Allphones Arena	Sydney	39,827 / 44,118 (90%)	$7,182,190[42]
Rod Laver Arena	Melbourne	42,086 / 42,900 (98%)	$7,540,270[43]
Brisbane Entertainment Centre	Boondall	17,798 / 20,036 (84%)	$3,212,670[44]
TOTAL		263,316 / 281,718 (93%)	$34,975,425

Notes

Those numbers most definitely doesn't appear to be those of a bust...

yeah well don't let facts get in the way of BVH's hate....

Interesting observation re the 3 keys players - I'd be interested to know what anyone musically inclined hears/thinks in terms of what the extra player brings to the table. AFAIK Morris Hayes was kinda hidden away on this tour, Prince possibly wanted some spotlight on Cassie.

The other time I noted the 3 keyboard players was during the Musicology era, some of the TV shows had Renato, Chance Howard, and an Asian lady called RAD (she didnt last the entire tour).

I'm sure that Morris has always been around the Prince camp in one way or another post 90's, so even when not in the touring band, possibly producing, but I think he also only joined in part of the Montreux '09 show, so not sure what was going on. I always associate the classic Prince live sound with 2 keys players, however, interestingly the One Night Alone tour was just Renato, and then that massive band at the 2013 Montreux shows was only Cassie - both those bands had horn sections.

Someone once mentioned that Mr Hayes has all the sounds and patches? from the records and hence is needed where something really needs to sound like the record...not sure how true that is...

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

seeing as how BVH likes facts...just 93% tix sold & c35MILLION in small change.....FFS...

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Or you could learn to read and notice we're talking about THE LA RESIDENCY and why it wasn't 21 concerts despite being billed as such.

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

pdiddy2011 said:

Those numbers most definitely doesn't appear to be those of a bust...

yeah well don't let facts get in the way of BVH's hate....

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You quoted completely irrelevant data because you failed to properly read what this thread is about.

Raajput said:

Interesting observation re the 3 keys players - I'd be interested to know what anyone musically inclined hears/thinks in terms of what the extra player brings to the table. AFAIK Morris Hayes was kinda hidden away on this tour, Prince possibly wanted some spotlight on Cassie.

The other time I noted the 3 keyboard players was during the Musicology era, some of the TV shows had Renato, Chance Howard, and an Asian lady called RAD (she didnt last the entire tour).

I'm sure that Morris has always been around the Prince camp in one way or another post 90's, so even when not in the touring band, possibly producing, but I think he also only joined in part of the Montreux '09 show, so not sure what was going on. I always associate the classic Prince live sound with 2 keys players, however, interestingly the One Night Alone tour was just Renato, and then that massive band at the 2013 Montreux shows was only Cassie - both those bands had horn sections.

Someone once mentioned that Mr Hayes has all the sounds and patches? from the records and hence is needed where something really needs to sound like the record...not sure how true that is...

About this topic, i can hear a synth bass during some tracks. Can somebody tell me who plays it?

Thanks.

Hi, I'm pretty sure that's Mr Hayes...during a Paris television show with the same band set-up, he asks Ida to solo and then ask Mr Hayes to 'help her out' 'mini moog' this was during DMSR...once again Morris was hidden away

carlos00 said: