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Thread started 08/10/21 5:04am

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Eileen Murton - Controversey magazine

I recall some altercation at a Paisley Park meeting with Prince and fams led to Eileen discontinuing this magazine. Anyone know what happened. It was a great magazine and she also had a information phone line smile

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Reply #1 posted 08/10/21 6:23am

emesem

I think it was about Prince starting his own fan club and magazine. But dont know for sure.

I must have some of those old Controversy mags about somewhere. Good times.

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Reply #2 posted 08/10/21 2:09pm

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^ As I understood it, this is correct.

Eileen Murton had previously arranged at least one visit to Minneapolis but events there did not directly lead to the closure of the magazine. The decision to close reportedly followed attempts to 'recruit' Controversy members to a Prince-led operation, but in a way that was seen as less than open. This occurred around the time of the Wembley Stadium appearance in 1993:

http://www.princevault.co..._July_1993

You can read more in previous threads such as:

https://prince.org/msg/7/131836

https://prince.org/msg/7/207825

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Reply #3 posted 08/11/21 4:46am

peppeken

thanks all

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Reply #4 posted 08/11/21 12:28pm

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Good times. I remember picking these up in HMV Leeds. Wish I had them still but I used to take the scissors to them. Are they archived anywhere?

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Reply #5 posted 08/12/21 8:39am

peppeken

would b great if they were online to view. i have lots of copies. will see if i can do so. hopefull the estate wont sue me lol

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Reply #6 posted 08/13/21 2:05pm

indiedisco

She was really nice, had lots of lovely letetrs from her. Anyone remember the Area oranisers and the tape swapping we all used to do?

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Reply #7 posted 08/14/21 3:27pm

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langebleu said:

^ As I understood it, this is correct.

Eileen Murton had previously arranged at least one visit to Minneapolis but events there did not directly lead to the closure of the magazine. The decision to close reportedly followed attempts to 'recruit' Controversy members to a Prince-led operation, but in a way that was seen as less than open. This occurred around the time of the Wembley Stadium appearance in 1993:

http://www.princevault.co..._July_1993

You can read more in previous threads such as:

https://prince.org/msg/7/131836

https://prince.org/msg/7/207825

Wasn't that Prince magazine the NPG Magazine ?

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Reply #8 posted 08/15/21 12:02am

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The magazine that Prince sought to run, yes:

http://www.princevault.co...=Magazines

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Reply #9 posted 08/18/21 2:08pm

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I vaguely recall him taunting her at the Brixton '98 show.

Doesn't he say something like "Eileen, I know you're up there..."?

"Had to get off the boat so I could walk on water..."
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Reply #10 posted 08/19/21 9:17am

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peppeken said:

would b great if they were online to view. i have lots of copies. will see if i can do so. hopefull the estate wont sue me lol

I think think the estate holds and copyright to those magazines (maybe some of the photos), but the people who put it out probably do.

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Reply #11 posted 08/19/21 9:44am

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langebleu said:

The magazine that Prince sought to run, yes:

http://www.princevault.co...=Magazines

Reminds me of one thing: wasn't the new (Michael/Sonny/Tommy/Morris/Mayte) NPG lineup briefley called 10,000 for a very short time (I believe, at least, for their first live gig at the Paisley Park Beautiful Experience) before being called the NPG again?

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If so, it means P briefley considered the NPG to be only the 1991-93 line-up, and that he may have come-up with new names for each new incarnation of the band after that. Can you imagine Exodus credited to 10,000 instead of the NPG? eek

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Reply #12 posted 08/19/21 12:34pm

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databank said:

langebleu said:

The magazine that Prince sought to run, yes:

http://www.princevault.co...=Magazines

Reminds me of one thing: wasn't the new (Michael/Sonny/Tommy/Morris/Mayte) NPG lineup briefley called 10,000 for a very short time (I believe, at least, for their first live gig at the Paisley Park Beautiful Experience) before being called the NPG again?

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If so, it means P briefley considered the NPG to be only the 1991-93 line-up, and that he may have come-up with new names for each new incarnation of the band after that. Can you imagine Exodus credited to 10,000 instead of the NPG? eek


I do remember that, but I don't remember where that came from. I went to that show thinking it was going to be a new band, but I was like the only thing that changed was Levi and Tony, Damon, and Kirk were out. No one mentioned 10,000 being the name of the band that night. The show wasn't advertised to the general public, so not sure where that came from, but I do remember hearing that. They did have the magazine for sale that night.

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Reply #13 posted 08/21/21 2:38am

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motherfunka said:

databank said:

Reminds me of one thing: wasn't the new (Michael/Sonny/Tommy/Morris/Mayte) NPG lineup briefley called 10,000 for a very short time (I believe, at least, for their first live gig at the Paisley Park Beautiful Experience) before being called the NPG again?

.

If so, it means P briefley considered the NPG to be only the 1991-93 line-up, and that he may have come-up with new names for each new incarnation of the band after that. Can you imagine Exodus credited to 10,000 instead of the NPG? eek


I do remember that, but I don't remember where that came from. I went to that show thinking it was going to be a new band, but I was like the only thing that changed was Levi and Tony, Damon, and Kirk were out. No one mentioned 10,000 being the name of the band that night. The show wasn't advertised to the general public, so not sure where that came from, but I do remember hearing that. They did have the magazine for sale that night.

I'd have to check but I suspect that info came from Uptown Mag, their report of TBE concert. I don't see where else I could have read this at the time.

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Reply #14 posted 08/21/21 3:45pm

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databank said:

motherfunka said:


I do remember that, but I don't remember where that came from. I went to that show thinking it was going to be a new band, but I was like the only thing that changed was Levi and Tony, Damon, and Kirk were out. No one mentioned 10,000 being the name of the band that night. The show wasn't advertised to the general public, so not sure where that came from, but I do remember hearing that. They did have the magazine for sale that night.

I'd have to check but I suspect that info came from Uptown Mag, their report of TBE concert. I don't see where else I could have read this at the time.


I'll have to check it out, but I remember hearing about it before the show. Maybe they wrote about where it came from.

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Reply #15 posted 08/22/21 12:53pm

mmart2008

Yep, I still have my copies of this great magazine, as previously stated, I think prince was trying to jump in on the fanbase of the magazine. Eileen was consistant in her output and magazine. Prince was never really that when it came to fan clubs etc and it was a great loss when controversy ended. His loss.....

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