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W2A backwards chant - anti vax + kardasian

(edited post after slowing down audio even more to get a clearer look at its content)

Couple things, love the album, it is solid, especially up to and through Same Page Different Book.

Listening to the title track a few times gives a new perspective to when he kicked Kim off the stage and said, "welcome 2 america". Just adds a whole new aspect of humor to it.

I reversed the chants in the title track, slowed it down, and this is what my ears hear.

Clear the channel of Viacom

Clear the channel of facts or possibly vax?

Clear the channel of sin

Clear the channel

Alright, back to enjoying this wonderful offering from our Purple brother.

Peace

[Edited 8/1/21 15:37pm]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #1 posted 08/01/21 9:11am

emesem

Was Viacom even relevant in 2010? I guess in Prince's mind MTV was still a thing. They are certainly not today.

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Reply #2 posted 08/01/21 9:45am

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leadline said:

Couple things, love the album, it is solid, especially up to and through Same Page Different Book.

Listening to the title track a few times gives a new perspective to when he kicked Kim off the stage and said, "welcome 2 america". Just adds a whole new aspect of humor to it.

I reversed the chants in the title track and here is what they say.

We're gonna challenge Viacom

We're gonna challenge vax

We're gonna challenge sin

Now, whether Prince reversed it, or the estate, that is a whole different question. If the estate is not anti vax, and especially in this polorized climate, perhaps they took some liberties to avoid news headlines about Prince being anti vax, and Prince calling on folks to challenge Viacom. I honestly would not be surprised if this is the case, but on the other hand, Prince is notorious for backwards stuff in his music, so, it is likely we could never really know. It is the timing of it all, and the coincidental nature, that is suspect to me. The most polarizing political topic that is happening RIGHT NOW, just happens to be reversed....hmmm. Would I agree with them reversing it? Absolutely not, whatever Prince's views were, they shouldn't be altered, hidden, or edited in any way.

We pretty much already knew his stance on vax from New World and various interviews.

When U wanna find some isolation
But the tracker U got from vaccination (Keeps playin')
Keeps playin' - "U'll never walk alone" (Over and over)
They're always listening, especially on the phone


Alright, back to enjoying this wonderful offering from our Purple brother.

Peace




[Edited 8/1/21 8:29am]



The man was ahead of his time!

Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #3 posted 08/01/21 1:16pm

Strive

Sure he isn't saying facts? That would make more sense.

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Reply #4 posted 08/01/21 1:45pm

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Strive said:

Sure he isn't saying facts? That would make more sense.


hmmm Haven't heard it yet myself...

Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #5 posted 08/01/21 2:38pm

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Strive said:

Sure he isn't saying facts? That would make more sense.


I think you may be right, I slowed it down even further, 40% slower, and the words are much more clear.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #6 posted 08/01/21 2:54pm

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I reversed it on my end also. I can't tell if it's "vax" or "facts"... but the latter would make more sense in context, no?

Sadly, I'm confident Prince was anti-vax though. He was anti-blood transfusion, after all.

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Reply #7 posted 08/01/21 3:12pm

kingricefan

I was wondering what I was hearing at that part- I knew it was backwards and have been waiting for an orger to post what was being said. Thank you! biggrin

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Reply #8 posted 08/01/21 3:36pm

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toejam said:

I reversed it on my end also. I can't tell if it's "vax" or "facts"... but the latter would make more sense in context, no?

Sadly, I'm confident Prince was anti-vax though. He was anti-blood transfusion, after all.

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[Edited 8/1/21 14:55pm]


Indeed, to us mere mortals, that would make sense, but Prince? smile

And yep, he definitely was not hiding his anti vax position.


[Edited 8/1/21 16:00pm]

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #9 posted 08/01/21 4:48pm

TruthBomb

Prince knew…he always knew
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Reply #10 posted 08/01/21 5:24pm

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toejam said:

I reversed it on my end also. I can't tell if it's "vax" or "facts"... but the latter would make more sense in context, no?

Sadly, I'm confident Prince was anti-vax though. He was anti-blood transfusion, after all.

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[Edited 8/1/21 14:55pm]

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I would rather believe he wasnt, but I really wouldnt be surprised if he was (and would be now)

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Reply #11 posted 08/01/21 5:42pm

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emesem said:

Was Viacom even relevant in 2010? I guess in Prince's mind MTV was still a thing. They are certainly not today.


Considering how many properties they own, your statement is short-sighted, at least.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #12 posted 08/02/21 1:19am

TrcikyChristop
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leadline said:

(edited post after slowing down audio even more to get a clearer look at its content)

Couple things, love the album, it is solid, especially up to and through Same Page Different Book.

Listening to the title track a few times gives a new perspective to when he kicked Kim off the stage and said, "welcome 2 america". Just adds a whole new aspect of humor to it.

I reversed the chants in the title track, slowed it down, and this is what my ears hear.

Clear the channel of Viacom

Clear the channel of facts or possibly vax?

Clear the channel of sin

Clear the channel

Alright, back to enjoying this wonderful offering from our Purple brother.

Peace

[Edited 8/1/21 15:37pm]

I believe I may have said this on another page a while back, but it's a direct reference to Clear Channel (who is now iHeartRadio) who was purchasing a lot of localized radio stations. Viacom did the same with MTV, BET, VH1.. and now CBS, etc). That one line is "Clear the Channel of facts" when isolated.

I think this whole song is about conglomerates and their abilities to profit over buying each other out to form bigger behemoths that own social media sompanies - while dictating to you what is "fact"... Instead, you're getting a caricature of what "music", "entertainment" and "news" are.

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Reply #13 posted 08/02/21 5:26am

leecaldon

toejam said:

I reversed it on my end also. I can't tell if it's "vax" or "facts"... but the latter would make more sense in context, no?

Sadly, I'm confident Prince was anti-vax though. He was anti-blood transfusion, after all.

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[Edited 8/1/21 14:55pm]

I'm not sure we can draw that conclusion based on his blood transfusion position - that is doctrine handed down to be adhered to blindly. The JWs are neutral on vaccines, as far as I know.

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Reply #14 posted 08/02/21 6:34am

LoveGalore

emesem said:

Was Viacom even relevant in 2010? I guess in Prince's mind MTV was still a thing. They are certainly not today.

Google Viacom.

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Reply #15 posted 08/02/21 7:58am

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leecaldon said:

toejam said:

I reversed it on my end also. I can't tell if it's "vax" or "facts"... but the latter would make more sense in context, no?

Sadly, I'm confident Prince was anti-vax though. He was anti-blood transfusion, after all.

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I'm not sure we can draw that conclusion based on his blood transfusion position - that is doctrine handed down to be adhered to blindly. The JWs are neutral on vaccines, as far as I know.


His lyrics tell the story......he was not a fan.

When U wanna find some isolation

But the tracker U got from vaccination (Keeps playin')
Keeps playin' - "U'll never walk alone" (Over and over)
They're always listening, especially on the phone

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #16 posted 08/02/21 8:00am

leadline

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TrcikyChristopher said:

leadline said:

(edited post after slowing down audio even more to get a clearer look at its content)

Couple things, love the album, it is solid, especially up to and through Same Page Different Book.

Listening to the title track a few times gives a new perspective to when he kicked Kim off the stage and said, "welcome 2 america". Just adds a whole new aspect of humor to it.

I reversed the chants in the title track, slowed it down, and this is what my ears hear.

Clear the channel of Viacom

Clear the channel of facts or possibly vax?

Clear the channel of sin

Clear the channel

Alright, back to enjoying this wonderful offering from our Purple brother.

Peace

[Edited 8/1/21 15:37pm]

I believe I may have said this on another page a while back, but it's a direct reference to Clear Channel (who is now iHeartRadio) who was purchasing a lot of localized radio stations. Viacom did the same with MTV, BET, VH1.. and now CBS, etc). That one line is "Clear the Channel of facts" when isolated.

I think this whole song is about conglomerates and their abilities to profit over buying each other out to form bigger behemoths that own social media sompanies - while dictating to you what is "fact"... Instead, you're getting a caricature of what "music", "entertainment" and "news" are.


I think you nailed it.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #17 posted 08/02/21 8:31am

Mackopolis44

leadline said:

(edited post after slowing down audio even more to get a clearer look at its content)



Couple things, love the album, it is solid, especially up to and through Same Page Different Book.

Listening to the title track a few times gives a new perspective to when he kicked Kim off the stage and said, "welcome 2 america". Just adds a whole new aspect of humor to it.

I reversed the chants in the title track, slowed it down, and this is what my ears hear.

Clear the channel of Viacom


Clear the channel of facts or possibly vax?


Clear the channel of sin


Clear the channel



Alright, back to enjoying this wonderful offering from our Purple brother.

Peace






[Edited 8/1/21 15:37pm]



I have to admit, my head hurts a bit when I read stuff like this. I'm just going to enjoy the tunes for what they are. I don't think that there is anything subliminal about the album. It's a wake up call for those under the spell. Unfortunately, everyone is to some degree and I do include myself.
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Reply #18 posted 08/02/21 3:12pm

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I can’t wait until my favourite immunologist releases a new album and I can see them in concert.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #19 posted 08/02/21 4:18pm

ForceofNature

Def facts not vax here

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Reply #20 posted 08/02/21 4:47pm

OldFriends4Sal
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around the time of this period he did an interview where he talked about the book 1984

so a lot of the backwards messages seem to go hand in hand

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Reply #21 posted 08/03/21 1:54am

leecaldon

lust said:

I can’t wait until my favourite immunologist releases a new album and I can see them in concert.

biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Reply #22 posted 08/03/21 8:21am

emesem

I certainly know who Viacom is. My point is that Viacom in 2010 was far what Viacom was in 1990's and not particularly cutting edge in digital. Why would Prince name check them and not, say, Apple, Google or, hell, Disney....Did 2010 Prince still think MTV was a thing? Is it about BET?

Viacom merged, unmerged and remerged with CBS so many times I've lost count. Its the media company that seems to have lost its way the most (wont be surprise to see them swalllowed up by someone (Universal?) soon).

LoveGalore said:

emesem said:

Was Viacom even relevant in 2010? I guess in Prince's mind MTV was still a thing. They are certainly not today.

Google Viacom.

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Reply #23 posted 08/04/21 5:36am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

around the time of this period he did an interview where he talked about the 1980s book 1984

so a lot of the backwards messages seem to go hand in hand

1984



1980's book? It was published in 1949. It was imaging the future.

That would be like refering to 2001: a Space Odyssey, released in 1969, as a 2000's movie.


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Reply #24 posted 08/04/21 5:47am

Vannormal

Mackopolis44 said:

leadline said:

(edited post after slowing down audio even more to get a clearer look at its content)

Couple things, love the album, it is solid, especially up to and through Same Page Different Book.

Listening to the title track a few times gives a new perspective to when he kicked Kim off the stage and said, "welcome 2 america". Just adds a whole new aspect of humor to it.

I reversed the chants in the title track, slowed it down, and this is what my ears hear.

Clear the channel of Viacom

Clear the channel of facts or possibly vax?

Clear the channel of sin

Clear the channel

Alright, back to enjoying this wonderful offering from our Purple brother.

Peace

I have to admit, my head hurts a bit when I read stuff like this. I'm just going to enjoy the tunes for what they are. I don't think that there is anything subliminal about the album. It's a wake up call for those under the spell. Unfortunately, everyone is to some degree and I do include myself.

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See it like this,

Prince was just on the wrong drugs at the time (religon and painkillers).

Those religious fanatics only want you to believ ein their shit so they can get money.

What the pills concerned, that was Prince's own stupid stubborn secret choice as a first class purple liar. In the first place to himself, and then to the rest of all us fans and the world.

Someone should've knocked the wayz out of his head at the time.

But he was on top of it all, untouchable by those who tried to approach him, i'm sure.

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And i perfectly understand your last sentence. smile

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #25 posted 08/04/21 12:31pm

OldFriends4Sal
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I'm a bit tired, leave me alone lol

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lurker316 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

around the time of this period he did an interview where he talked about the book 1984

so a lot of the backwards messages seem to go hand in hand

9783730609767-us.jpg



1980's book? It was published in 1949. It was imaging the future.

That would be like refering to 2001: a Space Odyssey, released in 1969, as a 2000's movie.


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Reply #26 posted 08/05/21 8:22am

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Viacom is the shortest way of naming every radio or television "channel". I am sure he would be saying "facts" not "vax" ( lol Nice try though)

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Reply #27 posted 08/05/21 12:28pm

steakfinger

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Prince knew…he always knew

Let me fix that for you: Prince thought he knew... he always thought he knew but was often dead wrong.

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Reply #28 posted 08/05/21 12:29pm

steakfinger

leadline said:

leecaldon said:

I'm not sure we can draw that conclusion based on his blood transfusion position - that is doctrine handed down to be adhered to blindly. The JWs are neutral on vaccines, as far as I know.


His lyrics tell the story......he was not a fan.

When U wanna find some isolation

But the tracker U got from vaccination (Keeps playin')
Keeps playin' - "U'll never walk alone" (Over and over)
They're always listening, especially on the phone

He was neither a fan nor very often successful in his attempts at logic. The lyrics above are a perfect example of this.

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Reply #29 posted 08/05/21 12:50pm

Strive

steakfinger said:

leadline said:


His lyrics tell the story......he was not a fan.

When U wanna find some isolation
But the tracker U got from vaccination (Keeps playin')
Keeps playin' - "U'll never walk alone" (Over and over)
They're always listening, especially on the phone

He was neither a fan nor very often successful in his attempts at logic. The lyrics above are a perfect example of this.


That's not giving Prince enough credit. In George Clinton's autobiography, he talked about smoking crack in the bathroom at Paisley and reading Prince things out of Bill Cooper's Behold A Pale Horse. https://www.vulture.com/2018/08/how-behold-a-pale-horse-influenced-hip-hop.html
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If you never heard of that book, "Nearly 30 years after its publication, “Behold a Pale Horse” remains a bestseller, finding new audiences for whom Cooper’s warnings — of a cashless society, a socialist order that devalues work, the confiscation of weapons, global leadership usurping the sovereignty of the United States — still resonate."
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When you know that and Prince paranoia at having his phone bugged, you can start to see where a song like New World comes from.
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It's a dark vision of the future.

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Here's what that line is referencing specifically.


The following article appears on page 444 of William Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse. It was originally in the August 1st, 1989 edition of The Sun.

"BIG BROTHER'S COMING!" Revealed: Secret Plan To Tag Every Man, Woman & Child - By JOE FRICK.

CODED MICROCHIPS implanted in every person in the country would tie all of us into a master computer that could track anyone down at any moment, and plans for such a system are already under way whether you like it or not!

The secret scheme is being touted as a service for the protection of the people by high government officials, but some insiders who object to the move say it's just another way for Big Brother to control its subjects.

(Transmitters):

"Top-level national security agents are trying to convince sources in the Bush Administration to begin the project in which every man, woman and child will be implanted with a tiny transmitter," claims Davis Milerand, a critic of government intervention who says he has received leaked information from inside sources.

They're trying to say this will be a good way for authorities to quickly track down missing persons and children, as well as criminals and spies.

(Injections):

But with the astounding technology of today, everything about you could be contained in one tiny microchip, which would be connected to a government computer.

"Any government agency will know what any person has done and is doing at any time."

Other sources say the tiny transmitters can be injected painlessly from a tiny gun in humans without them even knowing it through a nationwide vaccination program.

"All the government would have to do is make up something like the swine flu vaccine," Milerand says.

Imagine if they said there was a vaccine for AIDS. People would rush in droves to get shots.

"The doctors themselves may not even know what they're injecting. They could be told the microchips are genetic implants that reprogram the body into fighting disease."

He adds: "The program would require all federal, state and local government workers to undergo the injections."

"It would only be a matter of time before everyone is implanted with a microchip, a slave to the government."

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And if that sounds crazy. They're working on it. Haha.

"MIT researchers have now developed a novel way to record a patient’s vaccination history: storing the data in a pattern of dye, invisible to the naked eye, that is delivered under the skin at the same time as the vaccine.

The researchers designed their dye to be delivered by a microneedle patch rather than a traditional syringe and needle. Such patches are now being developed to deliver vaccines for measles, rubella, and other diseases, and the researchers showed that their dye could be easily incorporated into these patches.

By selectively loading microparticles into microneedles, the patches deliver a pattern in the skin that is invisible to the naked eye but can be scanned with a smartphone that has the infrared filter removed. The patch can be customized to imprint different patterns that correspond to the type of vaccine delivered."

https://news.mit.edu/2019...-skin-1218

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