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*Spoiler Warning* Prince and the Parade / SOTT era studio sessions. Hi everyone. Since Duane Tudahl's new book has been released today I thought I'd start a discussion thread for anyone who is reading it.
I'm about to start reading it now and will make notes as I go along. Looking forward to reading what you think about it. What are the most exciting facts and stories it contains in your opinion? Have a great day everyone, and thank you to Duane for this incredible piece of work. [Edited 6/9/21 22:32pm] | |
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Reading now. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Started reading the ebook a few days ago, just got to the part where the Revolution record Empty Room. 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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Knew I should've ordered on Amazon, lol. | |
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Mine just got delivered and I'm about to start reading now! | |
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It's amazing that Prince recorded Hey Hannigan right after he laid down the basic tracks for Kiss. | |
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Amazon have just emailed me to tell me they are struggling to get the book to me! | |
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I paid for and ordered it but I’ll be waiting a while since it’s from him and not Amazon. A link for the PDF is floating though | |
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i have to hold in a giggle everytime i read that prince's original version was issued on the 2019 posthumous compilation originals | |
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Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. | |
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Just finished the book. Really gives an amazing view of what his life was like at that time. 1986 really was quite a tumultuous year for him and pretty much everyone around him. 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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Loving it so far. I like the info about the lyrics to "I Wonder U" given by Jerome. I didn't know that. | |
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I wish he gave a PDF copy to people who ordered from him. Or that the release date was pushed until after he had books to sign in hand. Omg the anticipation. | |
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- Hope I can get my hands on it soon. - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Wait...my order is still showing rehearse date June 24 on Amazon. Why can’t I buy the digital copy now then though? | |
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My copy is on order with Amazon. Are there any previously unknown songs detailed | |
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This is a great book overall. I’m at September 86 already. I will definitely give it that. Despite my usual gripes with the usual players and the psychoanalysis, it’s fantastic. It documents almost all of his studio sessions. All of his tour stops. His schedule. What he used in a lot of cases and puts in perspective of how hard he worked. How great he was and how nobody can fuck with him | |
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The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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there are assuredly gaps because he cannot put in any information that he has learnt via his... partnership with the prince estate. | |
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fortuneandserendipity said:
I think they’re pretty much all in there, Duane makes a few educated guesses here and there. The impression I got was that he was almost impulsed to be in the studio everyday. Like, he didn’t necessarily enjoy it, he just had to do it to get the music out. I think he enjoyed The Flesh and Madhouse sessions as they were more like fun to him. To direct, score and make a film, do live shows, get engaged, create several albums for himself and other artists as well record nearly every day… it’s almost overwhelming to read. It all comes crashing down at the end of the book though. He lost so much by the end of 1986. [Edited 6/11/21 12:23pm] 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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I recall somewhere in a thread on here a few months ago that Duane has indicated that while there is certain information he cannot share due to his NDA with The Estate, he can still include information that he also obtains from other, corroborative sources a nd will credit it to whomever provided the corroborating information. [Edited 6/11/21 15:09pm] | |
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strongoxman1 said:
I recall somewhere in a thread on here a few months ago that Duane has indicated that while there is certain information he cannot share due to his NDA with The Estate, he can still include information that he also obtains from other, corroborative sources a nd will credit it to whomever provided the corroborating information. [Edited 6/11/21 15:09pm] It sounds like a bizarre scenario. I wonder why the estate would treat studio session information that way. | |
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. | |
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this is beyond duane's control i'm sure and i don't blame him for wanting to do another book (or even more books after this for that matter!) but the nature of a book like this directly conflicts with the direction the estate wants to take. it's like actual academic and thorough understanding from a historical view v.s. the estate's smoke and mirrors mystery bullshit. this is kind of off topic, but it's always just disappointing to remember how little anyone with any say actually gives a shit about doing justice to his recording history, though that's not a slight at duane because he's a good soul and does the best he can given the circumstances. | |
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My husband actually remembered how excited I was about this and bought it for my birthday! (still waiting for delivery). Now I have to get crafty for his birthday! | |
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Any song titles no ones ever heard about?? | |
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soladeo1 said: Any song titles no ones ever heard about?? I don't pay attention much, but I'd never noticed that Sheila E borrowed that Lemon Cake title from a Prince song. And Wendy's characterization of the writing of SISIA. | |
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rlittler81 said: fortuneandserendipity said:
I think they’re pretty much all in there, Duane makes a few educated guesses here and there. The impression I got was that he was almost impulsed to be in the studio everyday. Like, he didn’t necessarily enjoy it, he just had to do it to get the music out. I think he enjoyed The Flesh and Madhouse sessions as they were more like fun to him. To direct, score and make a film, do live shows, get engaged, create several albums for himself and other artists as well record nearly every day… it’s almost overwhelming to read. It all comes crashing down at the end of the book though. He lost so much by the end of 1986. [Edited 6/11/21 12:23pm] And yet he gained so much. He took control of his career again. Starting working alone again. That’s what got him his record deal. Not fiancées or band members. He also got a new and much improved band behind him. It’s more of a rebirth than a swan song | |
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I understand Duane's NDA means he can't talk about stuff that isn't independently sourced, but two omissions from the book that are (allegedly) known about: the work on 'my baby knows' with Jill Jones in 1985, and the rerecording of Katrina's Paper Dolls with Lisa and her sister that had been dated to March 86. Didn't see them mentioned in the book | |
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