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Thread started 06/08/21 2:15pm

soladeo1

Is Private Joy the first Prince song with a drum machine???

I think it is...

Correct me if I'm wrong!

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/21 2:31pm

lustmealways

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neurotic lover's

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Reply #2 posted 06/08/21 3:56pm

LoveGalore

It is the first one with the Linn LM-1.

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Reply #3 posted 06/08/21 6:08pm

soladeo1

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neurotic lover's



You’re right but this has never been officially released.
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Reply #4 posted 06/08/21 6:13pm

TrivialPursuit

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soladeo1 said:

lustmealways said:

neurotic lover's

You’re right but this has never been officially released.


Nope, but it's out there.

And yeah, the Linn was first used on "Private Joy."

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #5 posted 06/09/21 6:24am

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LoveGalore said:

It is the first one with the Linn LM-1.


Are you suggesting there were eariler songs with drum machines other than the Linn?


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Reply #6 posted 06/09/21 7:14am

LoveGalore

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LoveGalore said:


It is the first one with the Linn LM-1.




Are you suggesting there were eariler songs with drum machines other than the Linn?




I am suggesting that Private Joy is the first song to use the Linn LM1 drum machine.
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Reply #7 posted 06/09/21 9:13am

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LoveGalore said:

lurker316 said:


Are you suggesting there were eariler songs with drum machines other than the Linn?


I am suggesting that Private Joy is the first song to use the Linn LM1 drum machine.


Right, but the question was: What was the first Prince song to use a drum machine, period, without specificity to model? In the context of that question, your reply could be read to mean it was the first song to use that particular drum machine, allowing for the possibility that other drum machines were used on earlier songs. I appreciate that you didn't expressly say that, but again, in the context of the question it's not unreasonable to interpret your response to possibly imply that.



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Reply #8 posted 06/09/21 9:30am

LoveGalore

lurker316 said:



LoveGalore said:


lurker316 said:



Are you suggesting there were eariler songs with drum machines other than the Linn?




I am suggesting that Private Joy is the first song to use the Linn LM1 drum machine.


Right, but the question was: What was the first Prince song to use a drum machine, period, without specificity to model? In the context of that question, your reply could be read to mean it was the first song to use that particular drum machine, allowing for the possibility that other drum machines were used on earlier songs. I appreciate that you didn't expressly say that, but again, in the context of the question it's not unreasonable to interpret your response to possibly imply that.





That's not actually what the question was. It was whether PJ was the first song with a drum machine. PJ was the first song with a Linn LM1. Follow the golden rule if KISS: keep it simple + sexy.
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Reply #9 posted 06/09/21 10:14am

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LoveGalore said:

lurker316 said:


Right, but the question was: What was the first Prince song to use a drum machine, period, without specificity to model? In the context of that question, your reply could be read to mean it was the first song to use that particular drum machine, allowing for the possibility that other drum machines were used on earlier songs. I appreciate that you didn't expressly say that, but again, in the context of the question it's not unreasonable to interpret your response to possibly imply that.



That's not actually what the question was. It was whether PJ was the first song with a drum machine. PJ was the first song with a Linn LM1. Follow the golden rule if KISS: keep it simple + sexy.


I am keeping it simple. There is no logical or semantic distinction between the follwing two questions -- the ideas they are expressing are identical:

  • 'Is Private Joy the first Prince song with a drum machine???'

  • 'What was the first Prince song to use a drum machine, period, without specificity to model?'


To be clear, I'm not arguing that the phrase 'without specificity to model' was present in the original question -- of course it wasn't. But I am arguing that this phrase acturately describes the original question. As an absolute matter of fact, the original question stated 'drum machine' generally and was not limited to a particular model.


[Edited 6/9/21 10:18am]

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Reply #10 posted 06/09/21 10:55am

LoveGalore

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LoveGalore said:


lurker316 said:



Right, but the question was: What was the first Prince song to use a drum machine, period, without specificity to model? In the context of that question, your reply could be read to mean it was the first song to use that particular drum machine, allowing for the possibility that other drum machines were used on earlier songs. I appreciate that you didn't expressly say that, but again, in the context of the question it's not unreasonable to interpret your response to possibly imply that.





That's not actually what the question was. It was whether PJ was the first song with a drum machine. PJ was the first song with a Linn LM1. Follow the golden rule if KISS: keep it simple + sexy.


I am keeping it simple. There is no logical or semantic distinction between the follwing two questions -- the ideas they are expressing are identical:



  • 'Is Private Joy the first Prince song with a drum machine???'


  • 'What was the first Prince song to use a drum machine, period, without specificity to model?'



To be clear, I'm not arguing that the phrase 'without specificity to model' was present in the original question -- of course it wasn't. But I am arguing that this phrase acturately describes the original question. As an absolute matter of fact, the original question stated 'drum machine' generally and was not limited to a particular model.




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Ok!
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Reply #11 posted 06/09/21 10:58am

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leave it to prince.org to make one simple question so complicated

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Reply #12 posted 06/09/21 11:46am

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lurker316 said:

LoveGalore said:

It is the first one with the Linn LM-1.


Are you suggesting there were eariler songs with drum machines other than the Linn?


The first "released" Prince song to audibly feature a drum machine would probably have to be "IN LOVE" - perhaps a Roland CR-78. Most apparent in the hi-hat sounds.

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/21 12:15pm

steakfinger

Annie Christian featured a Roland TR-808. That's on the same record. How are you defining first?

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Reply #14 posted 06/10/21 12:42am

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steakfinger said:

Annie Christian featured a Roland TR-808. That's on the same record. How are you defining first?


If that's the case, "Annie Christian" would be first, most likely. It was recorded in the spring-summer of 1981, whereas "Private Joy" has a more specific date of August 16, 1981.

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Reply #15 posted 06/13/21 3:31am

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“Wouldn’t You Love to Love Me” is from 76/77 and he used the Rhythm Ace on it.
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