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”Emancipation” vinyl box set vs the original 3-disc concept What are your thoughts on the ”Emancipation” reissue vinyl box? Been thinking of getting it for a while, but still not sure if the vinyl format really works for this particular album. The idea of a beautiful vinyl box set is great, but do you think the intended listening experience and original album concept of 3 x 60 mins long pieces is ruined by dividing up the three CDs into 6 LPs and over 12 sides?
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I felt the same way as you, but I ended up buying it. And I still have mixed feeling with it. It looks great, and its great to have that artwork blown up in front of you. Listening to it though is where i got annoyed! You do feel like you are constantly getting up to turn the lp over! The sound is good, no issues with that. Its just a matter of personal preference. The listening experience is better suited to cd really. I will get my tin hat on! | |
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i don't listen to the CDs anymore. when I want to fill my house with 'emancipation', i play the records. i wouldn't say the listening experience is ruined, but it is demonstrably interrupted. i would weigh it against your audio preference, primarily. in my opinion, the records (and records generally) sound better. sound trumps everything. it is nice to have a larger version of the artwork...but the art's kinda crap anyway, so whatever. the novelty of the oversized box set format fades quickly. | |
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might even be better split up like that. its a lot listening to it in one go.
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Soooooo What's the vinyl tracklist against the cd tracklist? Is it the same sequence? Maybe a nice -this vs that- listing. For example, i'm a complete virgin to Prince music and never heard of this 'Emancipation' record.
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nayroo2002 said: Sooooo What's the vinyl tracklist against the cd tracklist? Is it the same sequence? Maybe a nice -this vs that- listing. For example, i'm a complete virgin to Prince music and never heard of this 'Emancipation' record.
each side of each disc contains 3 songs. the song sequence is the same as the CDs. | |
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I think there is no point in releasing an album in vinyl, that was especially made for the CD format. My god, 6 vinyls, that s absurd. The object is great, I don't deny it, but it makes the listening really boring to change side every 15 minutes. Albums from 1991 to let s say 2005 are really not fitted for vinyl. | |
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I've never understood this way of thinking, as if it takes so long to flip over a record. Hell, I actually zerostat and brush my records on each side and it doesn't take very long. Taking a break to get up and move is probably what more people need to do in their lives. | |
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I remember it being a big deal (at least to Prince) that each CD was exactly 60 minutes in length. It had something to do with Egyptian research he was doing/into at the time. | |
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Not my cup of tea in terms of listening experience. I can get lost in a single disc easily as I think he did some wonderful sequencing there. But not broken up like that. And I have a hard time believing the album benefits from the medium sonically. | |
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Aha. So this is a "Prince intended it that way, but we're going to present it this way" deal. Okay. Still, noone put a tracklist up in THIS THREAD to initiate/continue this "discussion". "Whatever skin we're in
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The vinyl version sounds very good. It's probably the biggest improvement on sound over the CD of all the reissues. | |
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KlyphIsBackAgain said:
I've never understood this way of thinking, as if it takes so long to flip over a record. Hell, I actually zerostat and brush my records on each side and it doesn't take very long. Taking a break to get up and move is probably what more people need to do in their lives. I m not saying it takes 7 hours to flip a side, I m just saying it breaks the flow and that it makes no sense for a 3hours digital 1996 album. This is so anachronistic and just a way to overprice it. Lovesexy or Black album in vinyl : yes, because they perfectly fit the format, and their length and sequencing was based on that. But surely not Emancipation ( but on audio cassette : yes!) [Edited 5/11/21 15:18pm] | |
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Not to be an ass - but if you really wanted the tracklist in the thread how about you google it yourself and post it?
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Honestly I don't think Emancipation is that consistent of an album to be enjoyed straight through (for three hours nonetheless) even on CD. I usually stream the album on Tidal and really only spend time on the songs I like. - One of the reasons I didn't purchase this (& this goes for most of the Purple Vinyl resissues) is because of the price. Although the better sound and blown up artwork does raise the appeal. - I did however recieve Musicology and 3121 as a gift and I spin Musicology quite often. While it is also broken up into 3 songs per side, its made me appreciate the album a lot more and I respect his sequencing of the album as a whole.
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RODSERLING said: KlyphIsBackAgain said:
I've never understood this way of thinking, as if it takes so long to flip over a record. Hell, I actually zerostat and brush my records on each side and it doesn't take very long. Taking a break to get up and move is probably what more people need to do in their lives. I m not saying it takes 7 hours to flip a side, I m just saying it breaks the flow and that it makes no sense for a 3hours digital 1996 album. This is so anachronistic and just a way to overprice it. come on....are you actually saying that you only listen to this thing front to back? nobody does that. | |
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I think the only real way to listen to and enjoy this album is with your own Paired Down One Album version, which varies wildly from person to person. Every fan makes thier own definitive version of it. | |
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TheKid94 said: Honestly I don't think Emancipation is that consistent of an album to be enjoyed straight through (for three hours nonetheless) even on CD. I usually stream the album on Tidal and really only spend time on the songs I like. - One of the reasons I didn't purchase this (& this goes for most of the Purple Vinyl resissues) is because of the price. Although the better sound and blown up artwork does raise the appeal. - I did however recieve Musicology and 3121 as a gift and I spin Musicology quite often. While it is also broken up into 3 songs per side, its made me appreciate the album a lot more and I respect his sequencing of the album as a whole.
Mayvbe it s because we see a vinyl of Musicology in the music video, but I always thought Musicology was fitted for the vinyl format. The old school style also. But 3121 is more fitted for CD, IMHO. | |
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Putting it on vinyl is a slightly bonkers idea, but I like that it exists. I even kinda liked how the different sides helped to punctuate the listening experience a bit. As others have said, it’s not necessarily a ‘listen to it all in one go’ album anyway. | |
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I'm now streaming all my music from my personal server, but I still like the idea of listening to whole CDs at a time. Listening to 3 songs at a time would be kind of weird, I guess. Especially since this comes from a technical limitation and not from how Prince meant the album to be listened to. | |
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this album has a LOT of filler. but im glad its on vinyl. kind of cool.
id have bought it on LP if it was released like that in 96.
id love to know how he saw this album in later years if anyone knows if he was asked about it at all.
i take the 60 min thing with a pinch of salt. he knew 3 discs would boost sales so wanted to make sure each disc was packed out. thats all it was. and michael bland has said as much on record. | |
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Was Émancipation originally released on vinyl ? | |
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no | |
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I agree, it's gorgeous to look at and and sounds great, but the vinyl set is not what I'd use to listen to the full album from start to finish. I use it more to dip in to certain runs of songs, maybe one of the original 'disc' albums, but it is too faffy to listen to 6 LPs. 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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its a shame an edited highlights version of the album like what warners did with 1999, never happened.
a vinyl sampler would have been nice even: courtin time, white mansion, cant make u love me, in this bed i scream, one kiss at a time, soul sanctuary, curious child, dreamin about u, joint to joiint, holy river, lets have a baby, the plan, friend lover sister mother wife, sleep around, my computer, one of us, love we make.
perfect. | |
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As already mentioned here, most of the recently reissued Prince albums were originally mainly made for the CD fromat (packaging/artwork, total running length, track sequence), so I can imagine it’s a tricky job to put these vinyl reissues together, with probably ”Emancipation” being the toughest.
”The Rainbow Children” has been the best yet IMO, as it is identical to the original 2LP, plus the nice transparent vinyl bonus update. Of the ”first time on vinyl”-releases I think ”Chaos And Disorder” and ”One Nite Alone” are both very nicely done and works well adapted to the standard LP format. Same probably goes for the upcoming ”The Truth” vinyl, look forward to it. [Edited 5/12/21 6:22am] | |
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3 CDs at 60 minutes each wasn't much of a concept. In fact, he padded songs with extra crap to stretch each disc to 60 minutes. It's idiotic. If you like the music of Emancipation then listen to it. If you don't, then take a pass. That "concept" means nothing to a listener. At best it was marketing with a little half-baked numerology thrown in. He knew a portion of his fan base wasn't too bright and this would add to what they perceive as "mystique" or "genius" when it was neither. | |
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It does rather break the intended flow though. | |
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steakfinger said:
3 CDs at 60 minutes each wasn't much of a concept. In fact, he padded songs with extra crap to stretch each disc to 60 minutes. It's idiotic. If you like the music of Emancipation then listen to it. If you don't, then take a pass. That "concept" means nothing to a listener. At best it was marketing with a little half-baked numerology thrown in. He knew a portion of his fan base wasn't too bright and this would add to what they perceive as "mystique" or "genius" when it was neither. this... if you want to enjoy the concept, put your cd in the player and watch the digital display read '60:00'. if you prefer listening to your music on records and you enjoy 'emancipation', and you have the means, pick it up. the album does not suffer for the format. it benefits slightly sonically. there is little to no novelty value in the package. | |
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