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belief345

Paisley Park Ideas?

With it being the 5 year mark of P's passing..

Waht would you like to see the Estate/PP do goign forward?

Studio openings?

More items on display?

What would YOU do 2 keep his legacy alive and enduring apart from music releases....

Just wondering smile

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Reply #1 posted 05/03/21 7:56am

Vannormal

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A traveling exhibition - not like the one in Amsterdam, but a much better one.

Not so expensive, with less clothes, more exclsuive video and private stuff.

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Don't ever organise a tour with classic approackh of Prince's music.

Tha was so horrific. Everybody already forgot that.

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Release the "Welcome 2 America" album, together with MAXi-SINGLES with surprise B-sides or remixes done by contemporary producers or artist.

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Release more video material through Youtube, like more shows from the W2A show for instance.

All things in relation with the new released album(s). Things like that.

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Every two or three months a one off single release with a b-side. Could be another unknown version of that song, whatever, or a demo. I'm sure there's tons of material to find.

Highlight the lesser era's of Prince through such channels and possibilities.

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Surprise streamings !

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Less purple and more movements on Instagram and facebook.

Some fans do far better on these social media, and are way more interesting then what the official pages show us.

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Make that damn boring official website much better, stronger.

Out source it to young people. Let them have a go with it.

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Have Questlove officially making remix shows / podcasts like what he did last year during the first lock down... Or whomever that is capable of doing this.

Damn release those fantastic ''Questlove Presents Prince Day'' - Hell yeah !!

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Look at how David Bowie's legacy is used and handled. Take an example from that.

He did not even recorded so much songs as Prince did. Still they know how to keep things hot,

and fresh and exciting.

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Ask the Versace group to tell more stories etc. Things like that.

Let people talk who collaborated on unreleased projects, movies, etc.

Create podcasts around these.

More podcasts with all his other engineers !

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Involve Allen Beaulieu more! He was there in the very early days till the big stardom.

Do something interesting around this.

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Spend less energy on parafernalia like clothing and hats and mugs etc.

Those Prince shops are doomed to fail anyway (imho)

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Call Mick Jagger and ask for the recordings of that LA Forum 1981 opening concerts by Prince.

Do something with it.

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Make the artwork for the official Crytal Ball & the Camille album avialable.

Or for other configurations of albums we can assemble.

Be creative and have the fans do somework too.

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Involve die hard fans more with whatever you guys plan to do.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #2 posted 05/03/21 9:12am

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Demolish PP to avoid spending money on it while struggling to even break even on the actual costs.

Then the heirs might inherit a little more if the leaches don't eat all of it.

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Yes, it would make me sad, but that is the only economical action if even keeping a watertight roof is an issue.

It speaks of neglect.

It speaks of denying reality.

It speaks of laziness.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #3 posted 05/03/21 9:22am

ludwig

Move the whole thing to europe, because I don't want to travel so far.

[Edited 5/3/21 9:23am]

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Reply #4 posted 05/03/21 9:23am

RJOrion

udo said:

Demolish PP to avoid spending money on it while struggling to even break even on the actual costs.


Then the heirs might inherit a little more if the leaches don't eat all of it.


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Yes, it would make me sad, but that is the only economical action if even keeping a watertight roof is an issue.


It speaks of neglect.


It speaks of denying reality.


It speaks of laziness.




i got villified lol for saying that in a thread last week, but i agree 100%
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Reply #5 posted 05/03/21 10:31am

Germanegro

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Time will tell what the future holds for the edifice, but for now there are entities that remain interested in preserving the property, after the death of its owner, so the property will remain at this time.
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I would hope that at some future point a proper museum would be built and send small exibitions around to tease fans' interest in pilgrimage to Minnesota. I don't think that a full-scale travelling exibition of Prince artifacts would be the best common solution to generating enthusiasm toward the artist and preserving his material items.
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At any rate, I feel that to scrap the PP property would be a waste. It could serve as a tourism resource for the state of Minnesota and some kind of source of support for the Minneapolis metro area. Unless there is a corporate entity looming that fits within the zoning scheme of Chanhansen and can bring a potentially much better profitability to that city I'd feel that eliminating Prince's buildings would be a waste. Again, time will tell.


RJOrion said:

udo said:

Demolish PP to avoid spending money on it while struggling to even break even on the actual costs.


Then the heirs might inherit a little more if the leaches don't eat all of it.


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Yes, it would make me sad, but that is the only economical action if even keeping a watertight roof is an issue.


It speaks of neglect.


It speaks of denying reality.


It speaks of laziness.




i got villified lol for saying that in a thread last week, but i agree 100%

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Reply #6 posted 05/03/21 10:48am

Genesia

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udo said:

Demolish PP to avoid spending money on it while struggling to even break even on the actual costs.

Then the heirs might inherit a little more if the leaches don't eat all of it.

.

Yes, it would make me sad, but that is the only economical action if even keeping a watertight roof is an issue.

It speaks of neglect.

It speaks of denying reality.

It speaks of laziness.


Why should Prince's siblings get anything, at all? They didn't build that.

And most of them already sold away their rights for a lump sum. They got what they got. Now you're just feeding the people who bought their shares. I would think you (of all people) would tell them to get stuffed.

[Edited 5/3/21 10:48am]

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Reply #7 posted 05/03/21 11:37am

belief345

I am not sure I see demolishing it.. I would rather tear down Graceland before PP..

I hope they get the studio back up and make it a mecca for production and recording..

I just like hearing other people opinions on this..

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Reply #8 posted 05/03/21 12:58pm

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belief345 said:

I am not sure I see demolishing it.. I would rather tear down Graceland before PP..

I hope they get the studio back up and make it a mecca for production and recording..

I just like hearing other people opinions on this..


Graceland is in no danger of being torn down anytime soon. It still brings in millions of dollars a year, and most likely doesn't have any complicated legal/tax issues like the Prince Estate does.

IMO the problem is not that Paisley Park charges too much for admission (I thought the prices were reasonable) . . . it's just that Chanhassen is not really a destination unless you're a Prince fan.

I went in 2019, and it was a bucket list item that I was fortunate to check off. I loved seeing Paisley Park (Ultimate tour) . . . but having said that, I don't know if there's enough draw to go back?

What I'd like to see for Paisley Park is to make The Egg structurally sound and turn that into a dedicated Prince store that's open to the public (no ticket required). Since Prince never really used it, they really wouldn't be "changing" anything of his legacy. It's a blank canvas. Use it. Parking would be a logistical nightmare, but they could figure that out.

Maybe . . . open up the upstairs for an even more "Platinum" experience? I dunno.

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Reply #9 posted 05/03/21 1:10pm

motherfunka

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Post pandemic shut downs, I would like it if Paisley Park would screen live concert footage and have listening parties for unreleased material. The outfits are a big part of their current displays, so they need to rotate items much more frequently. Brings the dance parties back.


Unfortunately, their plans don't align with mine. confused They want to revive the film screenings that inspired, or were inspired by Prince, get big name acts to perform in the soundstage, and get back to the studios and soundstage being active.


I can see the draw of people wanting to use the studios and soundstage and that would probably bring in a good amount of funds. The big name acts doesn't make much sense, as capacity is very limited, unless they charge a small fortune for tickets. Nobody cares about the film screenings.


I personally have a strong connection to Paisley Park and would be gutted if it were ever shut down or demolished.

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #10 posted 05/03/21 1:36pm

belief345

Was Elvis that much larger than Prince? It be hooves me that it would still bring in millions annually..

A smaller intimate gig would be nice if the artist was already there for a session...

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Reply #11 posted 05/03/21 3:27pm

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Se7en said:


Graceland is in no danger of being torn down anytime soon. It still brings in millions of dollars a year, and most likely doesn't have any complicated legal/tax issues like the Prince Estate does.

IMO the problem is not that Paisley Park charges too much for admission (I thought the prices were reasonable) . . . it's just that Chanhassen is not really a destination unless you're a Prince fan.

I went in 2019, and it was a bucket list item that I was fortunate to check off. I loved seeing Paisley Park (Ultimate tour) . . . but having said that, I don't know if there's enough draw to go back?

What I'd like to see for Paisley Park is to make The Egg structurally sound and turn that into a dedicated Prince store that's open to the public (no ticket required). Since Prince never really used it, they really wouldn't be "changing" anything of his legacy. It's a blank canvas. Use it. Parking would be a logistical nightmare, but they could figure that out.

Maybe . . . open up the upstairs for an even more "Platinum" experience? I dunno.


I have no intention of visiting PP any time soon or ever. I think it's one of those experiences that would give me more displeasure than pleasure. It it's a museum vibe, it would be too close to me and depressing. If it's more schmaltzy it would just piss me off. And I could probably go to Tenerife for a 1 week holiday 3 times for the cost of what it would take to travel to Chanhassen including all necessary expenses. May be easier for Americans of course. I've been to Chanhassen a couple of times (on google street maps) and it reminds me of Welwyn Garden City but less pretty or interesting. Do all American towns comprise just restaurants, nail/tanning salons, pharmacies and the odd insurance, or finance office? Soulless.

No interest basically in reminding oneself he's no longer here. Or being shown round by a guide who says stuff like 'the doves only coo when enough people come to visit'. My only motivation would be, can i hide myself away past doors closing time so I can burrow a tunnel through to the 'egg' from the main building. Just to see what's there. Like another vault or something. Or some interesting porn that P forgot about. Or Carmen Electra in some kind of cryogenic chamber.

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Reply #12 posted 05/03/21 4:10pm

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fortuneandserendipity said:



Se7en said:



Graceland is in no danger of being torn down anytime soon. It still brings in millions of dollars a year, and most likely doesn't have any complicated legal/tax issues like the Prince Estate does.

IMO the problem is not that Paisley Park charges too much for admission (I thought the prices were reasonable) . . . it's just that Chanhassen is not really a destination unless you're a Prince fan.

I went in 2019, and it was a bucket list item that I was fortunate to check off. I loved seeing Paisley Park (Ultimate tour) . . . but having said that, I don't know if there's enough draw to go back?

What I'd like to see for Paisley Park is to make The Egg structurally sound and turn that into a dedicated Prince store that's open to the public (no ticket required). Since Prince never really used it, they really wouldn't be "changing" anything of his legacy. It's a blank canvas. Use it. Parking would be a logistical nightmare, but they could figure that out.

Maybe . . . open up the upstairs for an even more "Platinum" experience? I dunno.




I have no intention of visiting PP any time soon or ever. I think it's one of those experiences that would give me more displeasure than pleasure. It it's a museum vibe, it would be too close to me and depressing. If it's more schmaltzy it would just piss me off. And I could probably go to Tenerife for a 1 week holiday 3 times for the cost of what it would take to travel to Chanhassen including all necessary expenses. May be easier for Americans of course. I've been to Chanhassen a couple of times (on google street maps) and it reminds me of Welwyn Garden City but less pretty or interesting. Do all American towns comprise just restaurants, nail/tanning salons, pharmacies and the odd insurance, or finance office? Soulless.

No interest basically in reminding oneself he's no longer here. Or being shown round by a guide who says stuff like 'the doves only coo when enough people come to visit'. My only motivation would be, can i hide myself away past doors closing time so I can burrow a tunnel through to the 'egg' from the main building. Just to see what's there. Like another vault or something. Or some interesting porn that P forgot about. Or Carmen Electra in some kind of cryogenic chamber.



Yup - all of America is exactly as represented on Google street maps. Please do not come here.


:roll:
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Reply #13 posted 05/03/21 5:09pm

onlyforaminute

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I was under the impression there were a few different plans for PP prior to the pandemic.


I like going. But I can't go often. I do go when I can. I like the vibe in Hennepin.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #14 posted 05/03/21 5:21pm

fortuneandsere
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Welcome 2 America. Prince wasn't a fan.

:roll;

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Reply #15 posted 05/03/21 5:22pm

jfenster

Different rooms where different tour is shown
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Reply #16 posted 05/03/21 5:23pm

jfenster

Different rooms where different tour Footage is shown
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Reply #17 posted 05/03/21 6:43pm

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jfenster said:

Different rooms where different tour Footage is shown

Yeah. Definitely need to see different footage. I'm down with that idea.

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Reply #18 posted 05/03/21 8:23pm

Dimitri10

Give a newly created Fan Committee or Community authority to have an input into decsions moving forward, after all Prince himself said the fans helped create/pay for PP, as no will, let us have an input and say!

"Prince don't know how many hits he got"
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Reply #19 posted 05/03/21 9:41pm

udo

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Genesia said:

udo said:

Demolish PP to avoid spending money on it while struggling to even break even on the actual costs.

Then the heirs might inherit a little more if the leaches don't eat all of it.

.

Yes, it would make me sad, but that is the only economical action if even keeping a watertight roof is an issue.

It speaks of neglect.

It speaks of denying reality.

It speaks of laziness.


Why should Prince's siblings get anything, at all? They didn't build that.

And most of them already sold away their rights for a lump sum. They got what they got. Now you're just feeding the people who bought their shares. I would think you (of all people) would tell them to get stuffed.

[Edited 5/3/21 10:48am]

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So demolish it, and get on with the Estate?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #20 posted 05/03/21 10:18pm

ForceofNature

fortuneandserendipity said:

Do all American towns comprise just restaurants, nail/tanning salons, pharmacies and the odd insurance, or finance office? Soulless.

You got all that from Google Street View regarding one small city? lol

[Edited 5/3/21 22:31pm]

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Reply #21 posted 05/03/21 10:36pm

Vannormal

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Genesia said:

fortuneandserendipity said:


I have no intention of visiting PP any time soon or ever. I think it's one of those experiences that would give me more displeasure than pleasure. It it's a museum vibe, it would be too close to me and depressing. If it's more schmaltzy it would just piss me off. And I could probably go to Tenerife for a 1 week holiday 3 times for the cost of what it would take to travel to Chanhassen including all necessary expenses. May be easier for Americans of course. I've been to Chanhassen a couple of times (on google street maps) and it reminds me of Welwyn Garden City but less pretty or interesting. Do all American towns comprise just restaurants, nail/tanning salons, pharmacies and the odd insurance, or finance office? Soulless.

No interest basically in reminding oneself he's no longer here. Or being shown round by a guide who says stuff like 'the doves only coo when enough people come to visit'. My only motivation would be, can i hide myself away past doors closing time so I can burrow a tunnel through to the 'egg' from the main building. Just to see what's there. Like another vault or something. Or some interesting porn that P forgot about. Or Carmen Electra in some kind of cryogenic chamber.

Yup - all of America is exactly as represented on Google street maps. Please do not come here. rolleyes

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Woops. Sensative subject. wink

I won't visit PP for the same reasons, but i can stand 'soulless' places.

And I've been several times in the US with it's wonderful nature and wondrous cities.

The visit to PP is way too expensive from Europe indeed.

And I have to agree with the experiences fortuneandserendipity described.

The schmaltzy part of it...

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #22 posted 05/03/21 10:40pm

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The Estate is on their case regardless of what any individual might request of them, lol. They have their goals.

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As long as the appropriate income is coming from PP, the managers of the space will continue to do what they're doing. It's cool for fans to contribute ideas toward the touring of the property for what they would like their Paisley Park experience to be. DJing dance nights sound cool, and realisically, continued tours of certain areas of the space I think would be fine.

>

Again, like I've said before in different threads on the subject, my wish would be to keep the actual original functionality of the place intact. That means to find a core of investors who are focused on producing recording media and to use the space for that purpose. Offer some tours on reserved days. Think about expanding Prince's fandom to visit a real dedicated musem space and develop that perhaps on a site in Minneapolis proper, or at another urban center that was important to Prince's productions like Los Angeles, for instance.

exclaim

udo said:

Genesia said:


Why should Prince's siblings get anything, at all? They didn't build that.

And most of them already sold away their rights for a lump sum. They got what they got. Now you're just feeding the people who bought their shares. I would think you (of all people) would tell them to get stuffed.

[Edited 5/3/21 10:48am]

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So demolish it, and get on with the Estate?

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Reply #23 posted 05/04/21 4:37am

belief345

Interesting..

I like the idea of the studio being back 199% and open for public booking...

Making the Egg a condo for artists who are recording there so they dont have to stay in a hotel..

Smaller intamite shows at the SoundStage/NPG room...

Maybe just maybe start back up the NPG Records.. Sign artists and have everything done in house..

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Reply #24 posted 05/04/21 4:53am

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Vannormal said:



Genesia said:


fortuneandserendipity said:



I have no intention of visiting PP any time soon or ever. I think it's one of those experiences that would give me more displeasure than pleasure. It it's a museum vibe, it would be too close to me and depressing. If it's more schmaltzy it would just piss me off. And I could probably go to Tenerife for a 1 week holiday 3 times for the cost of what it would take to travel to Chanhassen including all necessary expenses. May be easier for Americans of course. I've been to Chanhassen a couple of times (on google street maps) and it reminds me of Welwyn Garden City but less pretty or interesting. Do all American towns comprise just restaurants, nail/tanning salons, pharmacies and the odd insurance, or finance office? Soulless.

No interest basically in reminding oneself he's no longer here. Or being shown round by a guide who says stuff like 'the doves only coo when enough people come to visit'. My only motivation would be, can i hide myself away past doors closing time so I can burrow a tunnel through to the 'egg' from the main building. Just to see what's there. Like another vault or something. Or some interesting porn that P forgot about. Or Carmen Electra in some kind of cryogenic chamber.



Yup - all of America is exactly as represented on Google street maps. Please do not come here. rolleyes

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Woops. Sensative subject. wink


I won't visit PP for the same reasons, but i can stand 'soulless' places.


And I've been several times in the US with it's wonderful nature and wondrous cities.


The visit to PP is way too expensive from Europe indeed.


And I have to agree with the experiences fortuneandserendipity described.


The schmaltzy part of it...


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That's why tour guides exist.
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Germanegro said:

The Estate is on their case regardless of what any individual might request of them, lol. They have their goals.

>

As long as the appropriate income is coming from PP, the managers of the space will continue to do what they're doing. It's cool for fans to contribute ideas toward the touring of the property for what they would like their Paisley Park experience to be. DJing dance nights sound cool, and realisically, continued tours of certain areas of the space I think would be fine.

>

Again, like I've said before in different threads on the subject, my wish would be to keep the actual original functionality of the place intact. That means to find a core of investors who are focused on producing recording media and to use the space for that purpose. Offer some tours on reserved days. Think about expanding Prince's fandom to visit a real dedicated musem space and develop that perhaps on a site in Minneapolis proper, or at another urban center that was important to Prince's productions like Los Angeles, for instance.

exclaim

udo said:

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So demolish it, and get on with the Estate?


I like the idea of Paisley Park being used to create music - BUT, know that doing so will wear down the equipment and the building, then you'll have the inevitable arguments that replacing "Prince's" equipment will make the place not as authentic.

Same goes for renting out the place for weddings/parties/etc. People will trash the place.

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Reply #26 posted 05/04/21 6:13am

belief345

Not using the console or outboard gear will tear it down just as fsat..

Make it know you wont use HIS c12 mic.. its off limits and set hard rules for people.

There isnt an easy line with this stuff.. Damned if you do, Damned if you dont..

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Reply #27 posted 05/04/21 6:38am

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A functional studio is just that with or without Prince and so be it. It would be a functional community resource.
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Regardless, one could swap out all of Prince's studio gear and place it in a faithful reproduction of the space in an actual museum display, if that's going to vibe with fans. Or auction that old stuff for who knows whatever ridiculous price that could be invested back into museum production costs or whatever the estate may need.


Se7en said:



Germanegro said:


The Estate is on their case regardless of what any individual might request of them, lol. They have their goals.


>


As long as the appropriate income is coming from PP, the managers of the space will continue to do what they're doing. It's cool for fans to contribute ideas toward the touring of the property for what they would like their Paisley Park experience to be. DJing dance nights sound cool, and realisically, continued tours of certain areas of the space I think would be fine.


>


Again, like I've said before in different threads on the subject, my wish would be to keep the actual original functionality of the place intact. That means to find a core of investors who are focused on producing recording media and to use the space for that purpose. Offer some tours on reserved days. Think about expanding Prince's fandom to visit a real dedicated musem space and develop that perhaps on a site in Minneapolis proper, or at another urban center that was important to Prince's productions like Los Angeles, for instance.


exclaim



udo said:



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So demolish it, and get on with the Estate?






I like the idea of Paisley Park being used to create music - BUT, know that doing so will wear down the equipment and the building, then you'll have the inevitable arguments that replacing "Prince's" equipment will make the place not as authentic.

Same goes for renting out the place for weddings/parties/etc. People will trash the place.


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Reply #28 posted 05/04/21 6:53am

Genesia

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Welcome 2 America. Prince wasn't a fan.

:roll;


Right. That's why, when he could afford to live anywhere in the world, he stayed here.

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Reply #29 posted 05/04/21 6:53am

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udo said:

Genesia said:


Why should Prince's siblings get anything, at all? They didn't build that.

And most of them already sold away their rights for a lump sum. They got what they got. Now you're just feeding the people who bought their shares. I would think you (of all people) would tell them to get stuffed.

[Edited 5/3/21 10:48am]

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So demolish it, and get on with the Estate?


You're the one who said to demolish it - not I.

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