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5 years after his death, what we want to see next from the Prince estate

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Reply #1 posted 04/19/21 9:57pm

BartVanHemelen

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snip -of4$ post the proper link.

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https://www.stltoday.com/...c5fbe.html

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Reply #2 posted 04/19/21 10:00pm

Phase3

I agree with all those choices except The Musicology concert DVD. That has been available in really good quality for a while now.
Things I would like to have are
The second coming
The 3121 movie
Purple rain 4k release with deleted scenes
Crystal ball 2
Originals volume 2
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Reply #3 posted 04/19/21 10:31pm

lustmealways

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here's what i want, in no order

dirty mind/controversy sde's. i don't wanna hear it from anyone about how "there's not enough material" or that they should "bundle the two together" because we both know that's horseshit. second coming, which was woefully incomplete btw, would be excellent with the controversy sde only for that delicious shot-in-film footage

i want whatever's left outtakes wise from 93-95, but i don't trust the estate to handle it properly and with the nuance it requires. it would be futile to attempt a standalone come or tge sde, this era is one they will surely struggle with unless they wise up overnight.

similarly, the early graffiti bridge period is one i don't trust the estate to handle well, but if it were done correctly it would yield a revelatory and one of a kind archival release... this weaves in and out with rave 89' thus complicating things further.

my request is no more bullshit one-off albums (to clarify, i'm speaking on things like piano and mic and originals... stuff like W2A is a-ok with me cause it's the real deal), no more half assing deluxe packages, and change your view of what an archival releases could and should be. take notes from dylan's team, and by that i don't mean release everything, but rather consider what you're releasing and adjust contents accordingly. the guy is gone, this is for the benefit of the scholars and music listening public, spinning everything into some masterpiece and elaborately constructed narrative to sell people hype is doing the music a disservice and actively hindering actual deep dives into his work, of which we should've gotten several by now.

word.

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Reply #4 posted 04/19/21 11:21pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

snip -of4$ post the proper link.

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Reply #5 posted 04/19/21 11:31pm

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Madrid 2 Chicago

Roadhouse Garden

The Same December

Crystal Ball II (other unreleased tracks)

Originals II (I Hear Your Voice, Allegiance, Yo Mister...)

Some good live album with instrumental jam (like the Madhouse Munich, or the 15 June 1987 New Morning...)

TBH I have no interest in bio-movies or similar, or in Dream Factory/Camille when we have all the tracks. And, instead "Super Deluxe Stuff", I prefer "new" single albums with enjoyable tracklist.

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Reply #6 posted 04/19/21 11:52pm

JorisE73

rap said:

BartVanHemelen said:

snip - of4$, post the proper link.

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https://www.stltoday.com/...c5fbe.html

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If I want shit from you, I'll squeeze your head.


He's still right tho.

Anyway, a complete 'First Avenue' boxset CD/BluRay is what I want with every single performance he did there (even those 15 minutes sets like the 'Girls and Boys/HollyRock' jam he did there with Sheila E.)
Proper SDE's every 6 months start9ing with For You and continue chronologically from there.
Utilize 'Record Store Day' with releasing the unreleased albums like Katrina's Paper Dolls, Camille, Dream Factory, Crystal Ball, Rave unto the Joy Fantastic etc. All with liner notes from only relevant people who were there.

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Reply #7 posted 04/20/21 2:25am

fortuneandsere
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A Blu-ray of that American Bandstand performance so we can finally tell how many instruments P thought he could play



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Reply #8 posted 04/20/21 2:35am

djdaffy1227

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I don't want live blu-rays or DVD's or anything like that and I don't want associated artists. I want studio outtakes. Keep giving me those and I'll be happy! biggrin

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
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Reply #9 posted 04/20/21 4:42am

PennyPurple

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What we want, and what we get are 2 different things....

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Reply #10 posted 04/20/21 6:42am

fredmagnus

1 - BATMAN SDE including all the sessions from Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

2 - DIRTY MIND SDE

3 - CONTROVERSY SDE

4 - THE TIME ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

5 - SHEILA E ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

6 - COMPILATION OF OUTAKES FROM THE 2000'S

Not necessarly in this particular order.

[Edited 4/20/21 6:42am]

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Reply #11 posted 04/20/21 6:44am

Genesia

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"5 years after his death, and people still don't know that these asks are futile."

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #12 posted 04/20/21 7:49am

soladeo1

1. Piano & Microphone: The Final Shows. 6 shows - the Atlanta shows, the New Zealand shows, and the Oakland shows - Including high-rez video of the performances.

2. Dirty Mind: Super Deluxe.

3. A subsciption service for montly/weekly re-mastered releases of concerts/rehearsals/aftershows, etc. In concert with this, allowing subscribers to order limited edition vinyl of the shows and performances with exclusive artwork.

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Reply #13 posted 04/20/21 7:51am

Strive

fredmagnus said:

1 - BATMAN SDE including all the sessions from Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

This but just make it a 1988-89 boxset.

"When you deny people the option to not pick a side, you may not like the side they'll pick."
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Reply #14 posted 04/20/21 8:16am

SoulAlive

Dirty Mind SDE
Controversy SDE
more live DVDs/blu-rays
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Reply #15 posted 04/20/21 8:19am

jn2

Thé Rebels! A Come-TGE Boxset Camille..
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Reply #16 posted 04/20/21 8:24am

dm3857

soladeo1 said:

1. Piano & Microphone: The Final Shows. 6 shows - the Atlanta shows, the New Zealand shows, and the Oakland shows - Including high-rez video of the performances.



2. Dirty Mind: Super Deluxe.



3. A subsciption service for montly/weekly re-mastered releases of concerts/rehearsals/aftershows, etc. In concert with this, allowing subscribers to order limited edition vinyl of the shows and performances with exclusive artwork.



I know all the shows were recorded, but do we know if they were all filmed ? The only P&M I show I’ve heard that were filmed were the 2 Paisley Park shows? Does anyone have any info on other shows filmed ?
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Reply #17 posted 04/20/21 8:33am

dm3857

this https://live.brucespringsteen.net/

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with there being so many shows, aftershows, soundchecks, etc.. the only way something that niche and that amount of material could be successfully monitized would be something like Springsteen has.

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Reply #18 posted 04/20/21 8:37am

soladeo1

dm3857 said:

this https://live.brucespringsteen.net/



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with there being so many shows, aftershows, soundchecks, etc.. the only way something that niche and that amount of material could be successfully monitized would be something like Springsteen has.



Exactly. This is exactly what I’m thinking.
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Reply #19 posted 04/20/21 8:54am

masaba

dm3857 said:

this https://live.brucespringsteen.net/



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with there being so many shows, aftershows, soundchecks, etc.. the only way something that niche and that amount of material could be successfully monitized would be something like Springsteen has.

That would be amazing.
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Reply #20 posted 04/20/21 1:04pm

LoveGalore

Until the estate fixes the issue with TMBGITW, nothing really matters.

Where's them bootleg labels when we need them.
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Reply #21 posted 04/20/21 3:38pm

PennyPurple

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LoveGalore said:

Until the estate fixes the issue with TMBGITW, nothing really matters. Where's them bootleg labels when we need them.

I thought that was recently settled?

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Reply #22 posted 04/20/21 4:12pm

fortuneandsere
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I'd like to see proper vault 'albums' like those produced by my black brother charles ward. Because we have on good authority, sources saying P nearly always recorded songs with the intention of going on same album. But of course he couldn't release most albums, because he recorded so much.

A great song feels like a good friend. A great album feels like a best friend who will never leave your side. Albums are so important. Although despite the skip forwarding I do on the deluxe compilations. it feels churlish to complain. With both 1999 deluxe and Sign deluxe, editing out the songs I don't like, it still gives essential album vibe. Overall I guess the estate should focus on 84-88 material (or his late 20s material) as that's what renders him the great artist he is, his untouchable phase.

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Reply #23 posted 04/20/21 4:15pm

kingricefan

All of it........ biggrin

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Reply #24 posted 04/20/21 5:39pm

jfenster

While we wait for w2a....how about a classic rehearsal video
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Reply #25 posted 04/20/21 5:48pm

lustmealways

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jfenster said:

While we wait for w2a....how about a classic rehearsal video

let's take some rehearsal footage from the 80s and overlay it with a welcome 2 america track

how's that for a music video

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Reply #26 posted 04/20/21 8:20pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

SNIP - of4$, post the proper link.

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https://www.stltoday.com/...c5fbe.html

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what's the difference

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Reply #27 posted 04/21/21 2:25am

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fredmagnus said:

1 - BATMAN SDE including all the sessions from Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

2 - DIRTY MIND SDE

3 - CONTROVERSY SDE

4 - THE TIME ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

5 - SHEILA E ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

6 - COMPILATION OF OUTAKES FROM THE 2000'S

Not necessarly in this particular order.

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I very much doubt Batman will get a release with Rave adding in! I predict we will get the original album, b-sides/mixes, 1 disc of outtakes, and a live show of some kind (in a fancy box with a big book!). Could be a nice package, but it will be aimed at a general audience to increase sales.

Any ideas what the outtakes would be to fill 1 disc? Dance With The Devil, Anna Waiting(?), early versions of Batdance, Trust. Would be interesting to see what vault songs the estate deem 'Batman'. For instance Me Touch Myself and American In Paris fit the era, but are they anything to do with the theme of Batman. Is there a Prince list of songs that he considered for use and were any of them re-worked?

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Reply #28 posted 04/21/21 3:17am

JorisE73

fredmagnus said:

1 - BATMAN SDE including all the sessions from Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic

2 - DIRTY MIND SDE

3 - CONTROVERSY SDE

4 - THE TIME ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

5 - SHEILA E ANTHOLOGY + Prince Originals

6 - COMPILATION OF OUTAKES FROM THE 2000'S

Not necessarly in this particular order.

[Edited 4/20/21 6:42am]


I woiuld love to get all the protege remasters with outtakes and Prince's versions on them.
For Batman, I think this one is one of the soundtracks/albums that WB still has the roghts to so I don't think The Estate would give them Rave to add to it when they have the rights to that and could easily press it up and release it without WB interfering.
They could add some of those Anna Fantasic recordings to the Batman SDE maybe.

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Reply #29 posted 04/21/21 3:18am

leecaldon

-Piano & a Microphone Gala Event - 1 show on CD, 1 show on Bluray (or both)

-21 Nights in London - some huge boxset of CDs/Blurays from a selection of shows and aftershows

-Xenophobia - can't recall whether it was filmed, but a CD boxet of the week would be incredible

-3121 movie

-Black is the New Black

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