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Thread started 04/10/21 7:08pm

masaba

So rewatching the 86 Detroit Cobo show

And knowing now that Prince was sleeping with both Susannah and Sheila... is it just me or is it really awkward when he has them both on opposite sides of the stage at once? It feels like there's some real tension there, but I can't tell if i'm just reading into too deeply lol.

I swear st point sheila looks over and then looks back with a big frown on her face.
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Reply #1 posted 04/10/21 8:26pm

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First, stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts. Folks in the middle of a show, and you think they're all acting like 13 year olds on the stage, mean-mugging each other? OKAY THEN.

Second, Sheila's trying too hard to be Prince, much less worry about Susannah.

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Reply #2 posted 04/10/21 8:36pm

masaba

TrivialPursuit said:

First, stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts. Folks in the middle of a show, and you think they're all acting like 13 year olds on the stage, mean-mugging each other? OKAY THEN.

Second, Sheila's trying too hard to be Prince, much less worry about Susannah.


Whatever man, let me speculate lol
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Reply #3 posted 04/10/21 11:01pm

TrivialPursuit

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masaba said:

TrivialPursuit said:

First, stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts. Folks in the middle of a show, and you think they're all acting like 13 year olds on the stage, mean-mugging each other? OKAY THEN.

Second, Sheila's trying too hard to be Prince, much less worry about Susannah.

Whatever man, let me speculate lol


If you want to waste time in a land called fantasy.... go ahead.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 04/11/21 4:24am

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This was a dynamic Prince was used to. Vanity, Susan and Jill Jones during the 1999 Tour.

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Reply #5 posted 04/11/21 7:05am

RJOrion

TrivialPursuit said:

First, stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts. Folks in the middle of a show, and you think they're all acting like 13 year olds on the stage, mean-mugging each other? OKAY THEN.

Second, Sheila's trying too hard to be Prince, much less worry about Susannah.

its comically ironic how you chide the OP for "stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts.", and then you do the EXACT same thing you accused them of, in your second paragraph.

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Reply #6 posted 04/11/21 7:14am

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Reply #7 posted 04/11/21 8:51am

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RJOrion said:

TrivialPursuit said:

First, stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts. Folks in the middle of a show, and you think they're all acting like 13 year olds on the stage, mean-mugging each other? OKAY THEN.

Second, Sheila's trying too hard to be Prince, much less worry about Susannah.

its comically ironic how you chide the OP for "stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts.", and then you do the EXACT same thing you accused them of, in your second paragraph.

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Reply #8 posted 04/11/21 10:57am

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TrivialPursuit said:


First, stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts. Folks in the middle of a show, and you think they're all acting like 13 year olds on the stage, mean-mugging each other? OKAY THEN.

Second, Sheila's trying too hard to be Prince, much less worry about Susannah.




its comically ironic how you chide the OP for "stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts.", and then you do the EXACT same thing you accused them of, in your second paragraph.



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Reply #9 posted 04/11/21 12:29pm

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Damn, how good is your copy that you can see those details?

He got around in 85-86, it's not like it was just the two of them.

Plus Sheila just makes those funk faces during shows sometimes.

Lots of people are fascinated with the mysteries over how Prince navigated juggling his women and all those personalities during that era. I don't think we'll ever know. Jill is the only one who openly talks about it, and she never gets specific. It's none of our business, and also so tied into the mythology of everyone who dated him, that it doesn't benefit them to tell us what really went on.

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Reply #10 posted 04/11/21 1:49pm

looby

lavendardrummachine said:

Damn, how good is your copy that you can see those details?

He got around in 85-86, it's not like it was just the two of them.

Plus Sheila just makes those funk faces during shows sometimes.

Lots of people are fascinated with the mysteries over how Prince navigated juggling his women and all those personalities during that era. I don't think we'll ever know. Jill is the only one who openly talks about it, and she never gets specific. It's none of our business, and also so tied into the mythology of everyone who dated him, that it doesn't benefit them to tell us what really went on.

No mysteries, the man was a ho, plain and simple. lol

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Reply #11 posted 04/11/21 1:57pm

RJOrion

looby said:



lavendardrummachine said:


Damn, how good is your copy that you can see those details?

He got around in 85-86, it's not like it was just the two of them.

Plus Sheila just makes those funk faces during shows sometimes.

Lots of people are fascinated with the mysteries over how Prince navigated juggling his women and all those personalities during that era. I don't think we'll ever know. Jill is the only one who openly talks about it, and she never gets specific. It's none of our business, and also so tied into the mythology of everyone who dated him, that it doesn't benefit them to tell us what really went on.



No mysteries, the man was a ho, plain and simple. lol



he wasnt a Ho, he was a pimp...he made money off the Ho's...thats what pimps do...be clear.
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Reply #12 posted 04/11/21 2:12pm

TrivialPursuit

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RJOrion said:

its comically ironic how you chide the OP for "stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts.", and then you do the EXACT same thing you accused them of, in your second paragraph.


Sheila trying to be Prince has been well documented. I'm surprised she hasn't said she's reincarnated as him or something.

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Reply #13 posted 04/11/21 2:26pm

RJOrion

TrivialPursuit said:



RJOrion said:



its comically ironic how you chide the OP for "stupid subject. Full of conjecture, zero facts.", and then you do the EXACT same thing you accused them of, in your second paragraph.





Sheila trying to be Prince has been well documented. I'm surprised she hasn't said she's reincarnated as him or something.




"well documented" by who?...ive not seen any of these documentations...if Sheila Escovedo herself didnt say "Im trying to be like Prince..", then its pure conjecture and zero fact, by whomever it is that's responsible for the aforementioned documentations
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Reply #14 posted 04/11/21 2:36pm

TrivialPursuit

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RJOrion said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Sheila trying to be Prince has been well documented. I'm surprised she hasn't said she's reincarnated as him or something.

"well documented" by who?...ive not seen any of these documentations...if Sheila Escovedo herself didnt say "Im trying to be like Prince..", then its pure conjecture and zero fact, by whomever it is that's responsible for the aforementioned documentations


You're in a mood, and that's too bad because we could be having a good debate or conversation. If you wanna defend ol' girl, go ahead. No one's gonna try and stop ya. But what I did address was the "there's shade between two women in the middle of a concert" bullshit in the OP's post.

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Reply #15 posted 04/11/21 3:05pm

RJOrion

TrivialPursuit said:



RJOrion said:


TrivialPursuit said:



Sheila trying to be Prince has been well documented. I'm surprised she hasn't said she's reincarnated as him or something.



"well documented" by who?...ive not seen any of these documentations...if Sheila Escovedo herself didnt say "Im trying to be like Prince..", then its pure conjecture and zero fact, by whomever it is that's responsible for the aforementioned documentations


You're in a mood, and that's too bad because we could be having a good debate or conversation. If you wanna defend ol' girl, go ahead. No one's gonna try and stop ya. But what I did address was the "there's shade between two women in the middle of a concert" bullshit in the OP's post.



LOL...im not in any type of "mood" at all...i just dont see how Sheila E is trying to "be Prince"...you said its "well documented"...ive never seen the documents...thats not a mood...thats a fact....you ok?...im fine... cool
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Reply #16 posted 04/12/21 4:59am

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RJOrion said:

TrivialPursuit said:


You're in a mood, and that's too bad because we could be having a good debate or conversation. If you wanna defend ol' girl, go ahead. No one's gonna try and stop ya. But what I did address was the "there's shade between two women in the middle of a concert" bullshit in the OP's post.

LOL...im not in any type of "mood" at all...i just dont see how Sheila E is trying to "be Prince"...you said its "well documented"...ive never seen the documents...thats not a mood...thats a fact....you ok?...im fine... cool

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not trying to get entangled into this argument, but watch Sheila's live 1600 video, including the end where Prince completely blows away whatever came before and pay close attention that what Sheila is doing, both in her show and when she's on stage with Prince.

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Not knocking Sheila, her job description those days was "be Prince translated into female form and with a percussion focus", but it can get a bit much at times.

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Reply #17 posted 04/12/21 5:59am

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I tend to think that Sheila's romance with Prince was largely in her mind. Yeah maybe he hit it once or twice but....

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Reply #18 posted 04/12/21 8:33am

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masaba said:

And knowing now that Prince was sleeping with both Susannah and Sheila... is it just me or is it really awkward when he has them both on opposite sides of the stage at once? It feels like there's some real tension there, but I can't tell if i'm just reading into too deeply lol. I swear st point sheila looks over and then looks back with a big frown on her face.

u do you know that Sheila likes girls right?A band member from Lovesexy Parade SiGN o The Times era told me he never seen any sing of romance between Sheila and Prince during that time.

Starr Cullar a female bassist for P Funk also outed Sheila.You know of all Prince associates Sheila lis the most,she is a great drummer but troubled soul

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Reply #19 posted 04/12/21 8:42am

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thebanishedone said:

masaba said:

And knowing now that Prince was sleeping with both Susannah and Sheila... is it just me or is it really awkward when he has them both on opposite sides of the stage at once? It feels like there's some real tension there, but I can't tell if i'm just reading into too deeply lol. I swear st point sheila looks over and then looks back with a big frown on her face.

u do you know that Sheila likes girls right?A band member from Lovesexy Parade SiGN o The Times era told me he never seen any sing of romance between Sheila and Prince during that time.

Starr Cullar a female bassist for P Funk also outed Sheila.You know of all Prince associates Sheila lis the most,she is a great drummer but troubled soul

Sexually abused at 5, in a secret relationship with a famous married man twice her age at 18... sometimes I wonder if Prince forcing this sexual image on her circa The Glamorous Life did her more bad than good. Definitely a troubled soul.

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Reply #20 posted 04/12/21 9:12am

RJOrion

being a "black/brown" man who loves, and is very protective of "black/brown" women, i refuse to participate in the rumormongering, disrespect, and slandering of black and brown women...ill leave that to the "others" who didnt even know people like Sheila Escovedo, Rosie Gaines and Cat Glover personally.
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Reply #21 posted 04/12/21 9:29am

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RJOrion said:

being a "black/brown" man who loves, and is very protective of "black/brown" women, i refuse to participate in the rumormongering, disrespect, and slandering of black and brown women...ill leave that to the "others" who didnt even know people like Sheila Escovedo, Rosie Gaines and Cat Glover personally.

Rj what about her spreading false rumors about Prince?

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Reply #22 posted 04/12/21 9:45am

RJOrion

thebanishedone said:



RJOrion said:


being a "black/brown" man who loves, and is very protective of "black/brown" women, i refuse to participate in the rumormongering, disrespect, and slandering of black and brown women...ill leave that to the "others" who didnt even know people like Sheila Escovedo, Rosie Gaines and Cat Glover personally.

Rj what about her spreading false rumors about Prince?



thats between her and Prince, and not for me to judge...i wasnt there with them so i dont know whats true or rumor or not, concerning their relationship or lack thereof...people fall out of frienships and badmouth each other all the time...thats between them, and no place for me to intervene
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Reply #23 posted 04/12/21 9:50am

masaba

You lot take this stuff too seriously. And as a black man I don't slander or disrespect ANY women regardless of race or creed. Or any man for that matter.
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Reply #24 posted 04/12/21 9:56am

RJOrion

masaba said:

You lot take this stuff too seriously. And as a black man I don't slander or disrespect ANY women regardless of race or creed. Or any man for that matter.



and i never said you did...i was referring to a couple of other people at this site who are quick to call people like cat glover and sheila E, liars...in fact, i was supporting and defending (not that you needed it) your original post in the first place, in case you hadnt noticed...good lord...smh
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Reply #25 posted 04/12/21 11:30am

lavendardrumma
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RJOrion said:

being a "black/brown" man who loves, and is very protective of "black/brown" women, i refuse to participate in the rumormongering, disrespect, and slandering of black and brown women...ill leave that to the "others" who didnt even know people like Sheila Escovedo, Rosie Gaines and Cat Glover personally.


You referenced the women in Prince's world as "ho's" in this same thread.

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Reply #26 posted 04/12/21 11:36am

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lavendardrummachine said:

RJOrion said:

being a "black/brown" man who loves, and is very protective of "black/brown" women, i refuse to participate in the rumormongering, disrespect, and slandering of black and brown women...ill leave that to the "others" who didnt even know people like Sheila Escovedo, Rosie Gaines and Cat Glover personally.


You referenced the women in Prince's world as "ho's" in this same thread.


He was talking about the white girls, apparently. shrug

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Reply #27 posted 04/12/21 11:41am

RJOrion

lavendardrummachine said:



RJOrion said:


being a "black/brown" man who loves, and is very protective of "black/brown" women, i refuse to participate in the rumormongering, disrespect, and slandering of black and brown women...ill leave that to the "others" who didnt even know people like Sheila Escovedo, Rosie Gaines and Cat Glover personally.


You referenced the women in Prince's world as "ho's" in this same thread.



#1 i put that in Quotation marks in response to the person who i was replying to who called prince a ho and in reference to pimping.

#2 i jever put a name to the alleged Ho's

#3 if i were to put a name to the women that Prince so called "pimped", it would be Wendy, Lisa & Suzannah...the ones with the least talent, and most dependancy on Prince for their careers at that time...Sheila E was gettin money in the recording industry before she joined Prince, so i would never refer to her as one of his "Ho's" even jokingly...hope that cleared it up for you, Champ...
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Reply #28 posted 04/12/21 11:52am

RJOrion

Genesia said:



lavendardrummachine said:




RJOrion said:


being a "black/brown" man who loves, and is very protective of "black/brown" women, i refuse to participate in the rumormongering, disrespect, and slandering of black and brown women...ill leave that to the "others" who didnt even know people like Sheila Escovedo, Rosie Gaines and Cat Glover personally.


You referenced the women in Prince's world as "ho's" in this same thread.




He was talking about the white girls, apparently. shrug



well apparently its OK to call Prince and Sheila E and Cat Glover all kinds of ho's and crazy and liars, but "god" forbid you say a disparaging word about Wendy, Lisa, Suzannah or the allegedly omniscient Susan Rogers.
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Reply #29 posted 04/12/21 12:07pm

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RJOrion said:

lavendardrummachine said:


You referenced the women in Prince's world as "ho's" in this same thread.

#1 i put that in Quotation marks in response to the person who i was replying to who called prince a ho and in reference to pimping. #2 i jever put a name to the alleged Ho's #3 if i were to put a name to the women that Prince so called "pimped", it would be Wendy, Lisa & Suzannah...the ones with the least talent, and most dependancy on Prince for their careers at that time...Sheila E was gettin money in the recording industry before she joined Prince, so i would never refer to her as one of his "Ho's" even jokingly...hope that cleared it up for you, Champ...


Okay first of all - learn the meaning of the word "pimped."

Second, Wendy and Lisa both joined Prince's band when they were barely out of high school. Exactly what "careers" should they have had before that? Everyone knows their formative years careerwise were spent with Prince - which makes your assertion stupid on its face.

So your answer is "Yes - I was talking about the white girls." Thanks for affirming your racism.


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