I was just watching the Joe Budden Podcast and he claims to have heard that allegedly Prince recorded an album that he put in the vault with the instructions that it not be released until 20yrs after his death.

Does anyone have any info on this?

I've often thought Prince was capable of keeping back a killer album, one which he considers to be his best work, only to be released posthumously. Wouldnt surprise me at all if he wanted to remind the world of his brilliance 20 years after his death. If true I'd also bet it sounds fresh upon it's release.

milesb said:

I've often thought Prince was capable of keeping back a killer album, one which he considers to be his best work, only to be released posthumously. Wouldnt surprise me at all if he wanted to remind the world of his brilliance 20 years after his death. If true I'd also bet it sounds fresh upon it's release.

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Sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but that is plain bullshit.

The guy was desperate for attention and stardom and hits.

Why a constant urge to release albums and single releases ?

Cause he wanted to be heard and accepted and be one of the biggest.

Remember he did not trust anyone !

How many worse than mediocre albums did he release after his popular years ?

All the constant changes of managements, labels, etc ?

And all the efforts and attemps to try to reinvent hiself, and all the attention grabbing changes that constantly went on ?

The countless bad protegées he kept on launching time after time, unsuccesfully ?

The incredible amount of changing looks to stay on top and in the media, etc...

Reeally ?

He must've been the numero uno massochist artist ever out there.

I don't think so.

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If this is true, that he wanted a fininshed album only to be released 20 years after his death,

then it might've been a ''The Black Album'', meaning somewhat 'dirty / naughty' album, recorded later on in his life (for nostalgic reasons?) type of work.

Or an album where he finally had some sane doubt of his (annoying and rediculous) believes.

And still I love this whimsical guy, but by all means, don't expect it'll be a killer album.

We have those already.

Peace though.

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Why 20 years if this is true at all?

heartpeacesheart said:

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Vannormal said:

milesb said:

I've often thought Prince was capable of keeping back a killer album, one which he considers to be his best work, only to be released posthumously. Wouldnt surprise me at all if he wanted to remind the world of his brilliance 20 years after his death. If true I'd also bet it sounds fresh upon it's release.

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Sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but that is plain bullshit.

The guy was desperate for attention and stardom and hits.

Why a constant urge to release albums and single releases ?

Cause he wanted to be heard and accepted and be one of the biggest.

Remember he did not trust anyone !

How many worse than mediocre albums did he release after his popular years ?

All the constant changes of managements, labels, etc ?

And all the efforts and attemps to try to reinvent hiself, and all the attention grabbing changes that constantly went on ?

The countless bad protegées he kept on launching time after time, unsuccesfully ?

The incredible amount of changing looks to stay on top and in the media, etc...

Reeally ?

He must've been the numero uno massochist artist ever out there.

I don't think so.

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If this is true, that he wanted a fininshed album only to be released 20 years after his death,

then it might've been a ''The Black Album'', meaning somewhat 'dirty / naughty' album, recorded later on in his life (for nostalgic reasons?) type of work.

Or an album where he finally had some sane doubt of his (annoying and rediculous) believes.

And still I love this whimsical guy, but by all means, don't expect it'll be a killer album.

We have those already.

Peace though.

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Although I highly doubt the '20 year' story, this is an artist who never released tracks like Electric Intercourse, All My Dreams, Moonbeam Levels et al. He held plenty of fantastic stuff back.

I would believe the rumor if it stated 7 or 17 years after his passing......

he forgot the will...

As soon as I heard Joe Budden and podcast I made my decision that this is BS

Vannormal said:

jfenster said:

U still wont. belive he left gold in the vault and purposely released sub par material??

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What facts support that 'theory'?

I'll just say this

U can agree.....or U can be pissed

Prince was prolific as hell when he was was walking above ground

Unmatched by anyone around

Prince's material will be prolific as hell when he is no longer hear

Unmatched 4 my taste when all we have left is tears

U folks can speculate until u pass out

But it seems u have never understood

What Prince was About

May U see the Dawn

udo said:

jfenster said:

U still wont. belive he left gold in the vault and purposely released sub par material??

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What facts support that 'theory'?

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Exactly !

Come on, there's no artist who purposely wants to do that, or did.

Don't forget that Prince also needed the money for his high end lifestyle(s).

I really don't believe one bit of al this.

Btw, how can you trust Prince on this?

I mean, the same guy released more forgotten albums in the 90's, 00's and on.

And did proove time and time again he so desperate wanted to have a big hit and/or a comeback ;

Emancipation, Rave albums, Musicology, 20TEN, etc

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Graycap23 said:

I'll just say this

U can agree.....or U can be pissed

Prince was prolific as hell when he was was walking above ground

Unmatched by anyone around

Prince's material will be prolific as hell when he is no longer hear

Unmatched 4 my taste when all we have left is tears

U folks can speculate until u pass out

But it seems u have never understood

What Prince was About

May U see the Dawn

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OMG poetry.

Share whatever you're smoking.

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lastdecember said:

As soon as I heard Joe Budden and podcast I made my decision that this is BS

He's a huge Prince fan...as well as an industry insider who may be privy to information that the general doesn't have access to

Graycap23 said:

Prince was prolific as hell when he was was walking above ground

Unmatched by anyone around

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LOL

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Morris Hayes thoughts:

"TRUTH IN RHYTHM" Quick T... - YouTube

jfenster said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Morris Hayes thoughts:

"TRUTH IN RHYTHM" Quick T... - YouTube

This is great, thanks for posting. I wonder when Prince played Morris these songs -- this interview seems pretty recent, so presumably this music is not among the releases that have been issued since Prince's death ("I only heard it once.")

I always like hearing Morris talk. He was a great asset for Prince for many years, and I think he got even better as time went on.

dustoff said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Morris Hayes thoughts:

"TRUTH IN RHYTHM" Quick T... - YouTube

This is great, thanks for posting. I wonder when Prince played Morris these songs -- this interview seems pretty recent, so presumably this music is not among the releases that have been issued since Prince's death ("I only heard it once.")

I always like hearing Morris talk. He was a great asset for Prince for many years, and I think he got even better as time went on.

Pleasure... I mean who knows what's in there at the end of the day, but videos like these make me salivate. Jimmy Jam also said something similar about amazing unreleased Time records in the vault. He and Terry approached Prince to produce these and he was apparently open to it. We shall see... Of course for us rabid fans, even Prince's scraps and scratchy demos will do, lol.

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I like hearing from Morris too... he seems sincere and honest, and not looking for an ego boost. I can see why Prince had him around for so long.

jfenster said:

Prince said there r unreleased prince and the revolution the time and vanity 6 albums in the vault...why don't u believe him..

because he is a smoke and mirrors man

lustmealways said:

jfenster said:

Prince said there r unreleased prince and the revolution the time and vanity 6 albums in the vault...why don't u believe him..

because he is a smoke and mirrors man

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Also the 'Estate' does not really communicate well w.r.t. ault contents, planning, etc,.

Seems just like something someone made up based on the stories about the vastness of the vault. There are bound to be albums he put together that remain (mostly) unreleased... We know there were several projects at various stages that were dropped.

And sure maybe Joe WHO? was told that or heard that? but the person that said it did not have any inside info and was just talking our of the side if their neck.

Heck there may well be vaults of songs they have not found...(he said there are several vaults)

lustmealways said:

jfenster said:

Prince said there r unreleased prince and the revolution the time and vanity 6 albums in the vault...why don't u believe him..

because he is a smoke and mirrors man

You cannot be serious!

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Seems just like something someone made up based on the stories about the vastness of the vault. There are bound to be albums he put together that remain (mostly) unreleased... We know there were several projects at various stages that were dropped.

And sure maybe Joe WHO? was told that or heard that? but the person that said it did not have any inside info and was just talking our of the side if their neck.

Heck there may well be vaults of songs they have not found...(he said there are several vaults)

True

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Prince Lives On Via Versa...oBeautiful

"The unreleased Prince tracks had many in the audience surprised. Donatella stated, “He sent me those songs five months ago. He sent me music all the time. People look for the vault – I am the vault!”

Who's Joe Budden?