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Thread started 04/02/21 3:34pm

rap

The Prince song inspired by Cocteau Twins

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Reply #1 posted 04/02/21 5:20pm

fortuneandsere
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I'm surprised at P's modesty saying he would never do anything like Cocteau Twins. Pile more layers of sound into TicTacToe or Love Thy Will Be Done and you've got dream pop. Layer it thicker still with a heavier beat and you got shoegaze.

He just forgot. It's in the vault. Heck you'll find death metal in there before he punched out the growly vocals. This is a guy who in his last couple of years forgot he could play the bass. Trip on that.

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If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #2 posted 04/02/21 6:30pm

rap

I seem to remember that around the time of Parade he was listening to them. No doubt someone will put me right.

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Reply #3 posted 04/02/21 6:52pm

LoveGalore
I honestly had no idea he actually said Tictactoe was inspired by them but I can see it. Always liked that tune on an otherwise really uneven album.
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Reply #4 posted 04/02/21 7:19pm

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rap said:

I seem to remember that around the time of Parade he was listening to them. No doubt someone will put me right.

Yes, he was a fan of them back in the 80s.

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Reply #5 posted 04/02/21 8:21pm

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LoveGalore said:

I honestly had no idea he actually said Tictactoe was inspired by them but I can see it. Always liked that tune on an otherwise really uneven album.

I like the Cocteau Twins, came to them through another artist. Would not have linked tic tac toe to the Cocteau twins but I can see it. It also harkens to some of the softer ballads of the sixties. Tic tac toe and another love were always two of my favorites on that album.

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Reply #6 posted 04/02/21 10:18pm

RighteousOne
I think I read somewhere that it was W & L who got him into the Cocteau Twins. With the greatest of respect tho, I bet they had a good laugh when the PP offer came thru. Stablemates with Tony Lemans, Dale Bozzio, and Jill Jones? No thanks.
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Reply #7 posted 04/03/21 6:25am

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if you like prince, what would be some good CT songs or an album to check out?

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Reply #8 posted 04/03/21 1:26pm

luv2tha99s

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

if you like prince, what would be some good CT songs or an album to check out?


Heaven or Las Vegas
Cherry coloured funk
Carolyn's fingers

I would start with these very accessible tracks😜
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Reply #9 posted 04/03/21 3:32pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

if you like prince, what would be some good CT songs or an album to check out?


Treasure is probably their seminal album.

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Reply #10 posted 04/03/21 3:33pm

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It's funny the articles says "Love...Thy Will Be Done" was "compared" to the Cocteau Twins' song "Fifty-Fifty Clown". Isn't there literally a sample of "Fifty-Fifty Clown" running through L...TWBD? It was a little bit more than influenced by them and there's more than a comparison there.

But it did show how Prince could take their sound and make it more commercial.

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Reply #11 posted 04/06/21 2:48am

indiedisco

Pre Manchester Maine Road concert in 1990, he played a song by the Cocteau's, can't remember which one though..Turned out he was a big fan. Check out the album Treasure if you want a treat... biggrin Or my favourite single..Love's Easy Tears...

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Reply #12 posted 04/06/21 12:24pm

bsprout
Cool, I didn’t know this. I remember in the 80s they used to play this band on NY’s new wave radio station. I looked them up to see if I remembered any of their songs, but I didn’t. I do hear the same beginning notes in ‘Fifty Fifty Clown’ and ‘Love thy Will be Done’.
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Reply #13 posted 04/06/21 9:22pm

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renfield said:

It's funny the articles says "Love...Thy Will Be Done" was "compared" to the Cocteau Twins' song "Fifty-Fifty Clown". Isn't there literally a sample of "Fifty-Fifty Clown" running through L...TWBD? It was a little bit more than influenced by them and there's more than a comparison there.

But it did show how Prince could take their sound and make it more commercial.

Prince was doing the heavenly ethereal sound in 1978 on For You: (2) For You - YouTube

Cockteau Twins' 1982 debut album Garlands: (2) Cocteau Twins - Blood... - YouTube

But I do love CT from Treasure (1984).

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Reply #14 posted 04/12/21 6:05am

emesem

a bit of a silly article. No doubt perhaps he liked them back in the day but I dont hear them in Tictactoe at all.

Check out Heaven or Las Vegas or Carolyn's Fingers. Elizabeth Fraser is a unique singer and the airy dreamy music is beautiful.

I hear it more on "Love thy will...' and maybe "Imersion" on Bria's album comes close?

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