It's great that they are allowing people in for free on the 21st, wish I lived nearby to take advantage of it. Also glad to hear that they are putting the urn out for viewing.

Alan Seiffert tweeted the ashes would be put out, then he deleted his tweet after a few critical replies

that tells you what

I'm surprised they would think about putting the ashes out considering the response they got last time...

Trying to attract traffic to Paisley

This feels like the time he said he did not want any holograms of himself after he was gone. It's CREEPY.

Empress said:

I don't like the idea of this at all. It's completely unnecessary and is only a money grab IMO. If Prince had've had a will (duh) he could've made the decisions about his legacy instead of leaving it to others. I still can't believe he didn't have a will. It's irresponsible.

I don't think it was irresponsible at all. Irresponsible to whom? It was his life and estate, to do with as he pleased. There's no law saying that he had to leave a will. Prince knew that when his life was over, none of that would matter to him anymore, so I guess he didn't care what happened to whatever he left behind....it was no longer his problem and worry. He's free from all that now. That's why he couldn't take any of it with him, just like none of us can, and he knew that, maybe that's why he didn't bother.

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Empress said:

I don't like the idea of this at all. It's completely unnecessary and is only a money grab IMO. If Prince had've had a will (duh) he could've made the decisions about his legacy instead of leaving it to others. I still can't believe he didn't have a will. It's irresponsible.

Co-sign. If someone was so obsessed with his legacy while alive, they surely must have thought about what might happen in death. I don't care what he said on The View. Prince was known for just saying stuff off the top of his head.

Milty2 said:

Empress said:

I don't like the idea of this at all. It's completely unnecessary and is only a money grab IMO. If Prince had've had a will (duh) he could've made the decisions about his legacy instead of leaving it to others. I still can't believe he didn't have a will. It's irresponsible.

Co-sign. If someone was so obsessed with his legacy while alive, they surely must have thought about what might happen in death. I don't care what he said on The View. Prince was known for just saying stuff off the top of his head.

I just wish he had protected Paisley. With the millions made in 2004, he could have placed Paisley in Trust and have had all of the operating and maintenance costs covered forever. Now, I'm concerned the eventual care of Paisley will be left to the city or state. I can't imagine Primary Wave or Omarr will run it.

looby said:

Margot said:

Milty2 said:

Co-sign. If someone was so obsessed with his legacy while alive, they surely must have thought about what might happen in death. I don't care what he said on The View. Prince was known for just saying stuff off the top of his head.

I just wish he had protected Paisley. With the millions made in 2004, he could have placed Paisley in Trust and have had all of the operating and maintenance costs covered forever. Now, I'm concerned the eventual care of Paisley will be left to the city or state. I can't imagine Primary Wave or Omarr will run it.

I honestly don't think he cared, one way or the other, in a sense, after he was gone, because let's remember, he created and built Paisley Park, it was his home in many ways, his work place, where he spent practically most of his time, writing, creating, producing, living, etc.....I'm sure that Paisley Park meant a lot to him while he was alive, because he wouldn't have went through all the time, money, and effort it took to create it, but I don't think he viewed it that way after death. Prince was a religious man, and being a Christian myself, we believe that when this life is over, nothing else earthly matters, that this earthly life is over, gone forever, and no longer matters, so why worry about it when it's over and gone? We leave it all behind, take absolutely nothing with us. Do you really think that Prince wasn't aware of everything he accumulated while he was here on earth, that the thought of a will didn't even cross his mind? I'm sure he did, and he made the decision not to make one, and probably thought "let my family, etc, figure it out, control, and fight over whatever it is I leave behind, it won't matter to me anymore anyway".

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looby said:

Margot said:

I just wish he had protected Paisley. With the millions made in 2004, he could have placed Paisley in Trust and have had all of the operating and maintenance costs covered forever. Now, I'm concerned the eventual care of Paisley will be left to the city or state. I can't imagine Primary Wave or Omarr will run it.

I honestly don't think he cared, one way or the other, in a sense, after he was gone, because let's remember, he created and built Paisley Park, it was his home in many ways, his work place, where he spent practically most of his time, writing, creating, producing, living, etc.....I'm sure that Paisley Park meant a lot to him while he was alive, because he wouldn't have went through all the time, money, and effort it took to create it, but I don't think he viewed it that way, after death. Prince was a religious man, and being a Christian myself, we believe that when this life is over, nothing else earthly matters, that life is gone forever, and no longer matters, so why worry about it when we can't do anything about it anymore? We leave it all behind, take absolutely nothing with us. Do you really think that Prince wasn't aware of everything he accumulated while he was here on earth, that the thought of a will didn't even cross his mind? I'm sure he did, and he made the decision not to make one, and probably thought "let my family, etc, figure it out, control, and fight over whatever it is I leave behind, it won't matter to me anymore anyway".

He obviously didn't care and it was his right not to.

How are we taking "no will" to mean "didn't care". He may not have cared on a spiritual level, but he had some very specific opinions and battles, and it wasn't like his convictions were a temporary thing during his time on this earth.

But the other possibiliy is there was a will and he donated everything to Jehovah Witness or something, and that would have been the worst possible scenario for everyone.

purplethunder3121 said:

looby said:

I honestly don't think he cared, one way or the other, in a sense, after he was gone, because let's remember, he created and built Paisley Park, it was his home in many ways, his work place, where he spent practically most of his time, writing, creating, producing, living, etc.....I'm sure that Paisley Park meant a lot to him while he was alive, because he wouldn't have went through all the time, money, and effort it took to create it, but I don't think he viewed it that way, after death. Prince was a religious man, and being a Christian myself, we believe that when this life is over, nothing else earthly matters, that life is gone forever, and no longer matters, so why worry about it when we can't do anything about it anymore? We leave it all behind, take absolutely nothing with us. Do you really think that Prince wasn't aware of everything he accumulated while he was here on earth, that the thought of a will didn't even cross his mind? I'm sure he did, and he made the decision not to make one, and probably thought "let my family, etc, figure it out, control, and fight over whatever it is I leave behind, it won't matter to me anymore anyway".

He obviously didn't care and it was his right not to.

I think he did care. From an early age he talked about it becoming a museum. Why would he have saved everything, cars, clothes, all sorts of memoribilia?

The best I can come up with was that he wasn't interested in the tedium of cataloguing (music/memoribilia) and dealing with the nuts and bolts of preservation of any kind. It was boring to him as he put almost all of his energy into creating the 'next thing'

Though I don't like this idea I have come to accept that Paisley will likely not survive as it does not attract enough visitors, does not have that one passionate person to keep it afloat and the Comerica influence is soon to end.

I would like to say that people who have not visited Paisley may be less interested in it's preservation but once you've experienced it, it becomes more alarming to just let it go.

Margot said:

purplethunder3121 said:

He obviously didn't care and it was his right not to.

I think he did care. From an early age he talked about it becoming a museum. Why would he have saved everything, cars, clothes, all sorts of memoribilia?

The best I can come up with was that he wasn't interested in the tedium of cataloguing (music/memoribilia) and dealing with the nuts and bolts of preservation of any kind. It was boring to him as he put almost all of his energy into creating the 'next thing'

Though I don't like this idea I have come to accept that Paisley will likely not survive as it does not attract enough visitors, does not have that one passionate person to keep it afloat and the Comerica influence is soon to end.

I would like to say that people who have not visited Paisley may be less interested in it's preservation but once you've experienced it, it becomes more alarming to just let it go.

It would have taken 4-5 hours for one of Prince's attorneys to

analyze the cost of running Paisley including routine maintenance, scheduled capital improvements, salaries, etc., and set up up a Trust to cover all costs in perpetuity or from his death till 2050 or...till the state took over, or...something.

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Margot said:

I would like to say that people who have not visited Paisley may be less interested in it's preservation but once you've experienced it, it becomes more alarming to just let it go.

I don't think they're related. Most of us must think everything in it should be preserved 100%, but I also have zero interest in making a pilgrimage.

Maybe I was already in town and it was easily accesible after seeing the Walker, or doing whatever else brought me to town? Paisley just isn't that interesting, or eccentric. What makes it eccentric is also what makes it uninteresting to me.

lavendardrummachine said:

Margot said:

I would like to say that people who have not visited Paisley may be less interested in it's preservation but once you've experienced it, it becomes more alarming to just let it go.

I don't think they're related. Most of us must think everything in it should be preserved 100%, but I also have zero interest in making a pilgrimage.

Maybe I was already in town and it was easily accesible after seeing the Walker, or doing whatever else brought me to town? Paisley just isn't that interesting, or eccentric. What makes it eccentric is also what makes it uninteresting to me.

Just seeing his studios is worth it.

Empress said:

I don't like the idea of this at all. It's completely unnecessary and is only a money grab IMO. If Prince had've had a will (duh) he could've made the decisions about his legacy instead of leaving it to others. I still can't believe he didn't have a will. It's irresponsible.

How can it be a money grab if they're letting people come inside the atrium for free? There will be no tours available the entire day (and I'm assuming that those coming to PP will not be allowed to the area where merchandise is for sale as it's at the end of the tours)- it's just an open invitation for folks to come and pay their respects to Prince. I don't have a problem with the urn being there on public view but I do have a problem with it being brought out for special occasions and then hidden away somewhere in PP. They should build a respectful place where it can be on display for those who would like to see it and pay their respects, if they choose to do so, away from the main traffic areas at PP. There are dedictaed rooms for each phase of music that Prince created so why not have a room where his urn can be placed behind protective glass?

kingricefan said:

Empress said:

I don't like the idea of this at all. It's completely unnecessary and is only a money grab IMO. If Prince had've had a will (duh) he could've made the decisions about his legacy instead of leaving it to others. I still can't believe he didn't have a will. It's irresponsible.

How can it be a money grab if they're letting people come inside the atrium for free? There will be no tours available the entire day (and I'm assuming that those coming to PP will not be allowed to the area where merchandise is for sale as it's at the end of the tours)- it's just an open invitation for folks to come and pay their respects to Prince. I don't have a problem with the urn being there on public view but I do have a problem with it being brought out for special occasions and then hidden away somewhere in PP. They should build a respectful place where it can be on display for those who would like to see it and pay their respects, if they choose to do so, away from the main traffic areas at PP. There are dedictaed rooms for each phase of music that Prince created so why not have a room where his urn can be placed behind protective glass?

I agree- It would not be difficult to paint, provide seating in one of the many rooms.

onlyforaminute said:

They're doing a free entrance in place of the yearly celebration. And folks complain.

It wouldn't be the Org. without the complaining.....

coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

Ashes should be in a special room, a quiet, respectful, security monitored room in paisley. This in out of the ashes is so disrespectful. However, kudos to the park for free entry.

That is a good idea.

onlyforaminute said:

They're doing a free entrance in place of the yearly celebration. And folks complain.

Folks are not complaining, they're expressing their opinion, whether you agree or disagree with it.

looby said:

It's becuz the anniversary is FREE... Of course people will come.

There was no need to bring the urn into it.

Margot said:

onlyforaminute said:

Margot said:

It's becuz the anniversary is FREE... Of course people will come.

There was no need to bring the urn into it.

Well I mean with Covid they can't do what they've been doing every year since his passing. That's why I don't get this sudden sensitivity about acknowledging his passing and inviting the fans. They've done it every year and it wasn't free. The articles said the word "ashes", suddenly folks start clutching pearls on the org, when not even a month ago some were expressing wanting to see pictures of his dead body in open circulation. Yet a box of ashes sitting in his home he built is being disrespectful to his wishes? Sometimes people just want to have any reason to whine.

That's a valid observation!

onlyforaminute said:

Margot said:

It's becuz the anniversary is FREE... Of course people will come.

There was no need to bring the urn into it.

Well I mean with Covid they can't do what they've been doing every year since his passing. That's why I don't get this sudden sensitivity about acknowledging his passing and inviting the fans. They've done it every year and it wasn't free. The articles said the word "ashes", suddenly folks start clutching pearls on the org, when not even a month ago some were expressing wanting to see pictures of his dead body in open circulation. Yet a box of ashes sitting in his home he built is being disrespectful to his wishes? Sometimes people just want to have any reason to whine.

Opening up PP for free this year is very cool and wish I could go. Never been inside except for my April 2016 visit where no one could enter. I like the suggestion earlier on here of having the urn permenantly sit in a room where people can pass by or go into and pay their respects that way. Not moving around the building or displayed and removed from time to time. I hope someone over there is reading this.

And yes this is the Org. It wouldn't be the Org if there weren't a lot of whining and moaning especially of late.