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Thread started 03/19/21 5:28am

funkbabyandthe
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did singing in falsetto limit princes appeal?

Many ppl, esp white rock fans, do not like falsetto

But that has always been a part of male singers in rnb and gospel

So I guess that might have been just his singing preference but its also his way of keeping some rnb in his music even when it was a song like when u were mine

But I do think yeah, if he really wanted to get a bigger audience, I'd have had done less of that maybe

He obv knew it as on purple rain theres less falsetto
Same on Atwiad
Also parade
Sott too
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Reply #1 posted 03/19/21 5:43am

Se7en

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Prince was quoted in early years as saying that singing in a lower register hurt his voice. I'm guessing age and practice allowed him to sing in (what I consider) his normal "Prince" voice.

If there is such a thing . . . his voice and vocal range were outstanding.

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Reply #2 posted 03/19/21 6:49am

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A lot of his everlasting hits outside of "Kiss" were sung in a middle range of vocal. But that Kiss vocal cemented any satire of him presented in falsetto.

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Reply #3 posted 03/19/21 8:23am

TrevorAyer

His falsetto put him on the map in the early years and also cemented his superstardom with the number one smash Kiss .. in both cases his falsetto broadened his fan base
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Reply #4 posted 03/19/21 9:02am

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TrevorAyer said:

His falsetto put him on the map in the early years and also cemented his superstardom with the number one smash Kiss .. in both cases his falsetto broadened his fan base

He started to hit bigger with "Controversy" "Little Red Corvette""1999""Delirious"

Let's Go Crazy, When Doves Cry, Purple Rain, Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Girls and Boys (I used to hear that on top 40 radio and sung by peeps in the halls), Sign 0' The Times, U Got the Look, Batdance, Alphabet St, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Get Off, Diamonds and Pearls....

Kiss seems to be his only falsetto mainstream hit am I forgetting something?

I do remember some guys in high school making fun of the falsetto, and they didn't make fun of When Doves Cry.

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Reply #5 posted 03/19/21 10:22am

funkbabyandthe
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its also worth mentioning that princes falsetto was also particularly exuberant lol

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Reply #6 posted 03/19/21 10:33am

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ufoclub said:

TrevorAyer said:

His falsetto put him on the map in the early years and also cemented his superstardom with the number one smash Kiss .. in both cases his falsetto broadened his fan base

He started to hit bigger with "Controversy" "Little Red Corvette""1999""Delirious"

Let's Go Crazy, When Doves Cry, Purple Rain, Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Girls and Boys (I used to hear that on top 40 radio and sung by peeps in the halls), Sign 0' The Times, U Got the Look, Batdance, Alphabet St, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Get Off, Diamonds and Pearls....

Kiss seems to be his only falsetto mainstream hit am I forgetting something?

I do remember some guys in high school making fun of the falsetto, and they didn't make fun of When Doves Cry.

You're forgetting his first bonafide smash "I Wanna Be Your Lover".

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Reply #7 posted 03/19/21 11:13am

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CynicKill said:

ufoclub said:

He started to hit bigger with "Controversy" "Little Red Corvette""1999""Delirious"

Let's Go Crazy, When Doves Cry, Purple Rain, Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Girls and Boys (I used to hear that on top 40 radio and sung by peeps in the halls), Sign 0' The Times, U Got the Look, Batdance, Alphabet St, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Get Off, Diamonds and Pearls....

Kiss seems to be his only falsetto mainstream hit am I forgetting something?

I do remember some guys in high school making fun of the falsetto, and they didn't make fun of When Doves Cry.

You're forgetting his first bonafide smash "I Wanna Be Your Lover".

If you look at the 90's, The Most Beautiful Girl in the World was almost entirely falsetto and was a pretty big hit for him in that era as well.

"Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish."
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Reply #8 posted 03/19/21 11:44am

RODSERLING

Yes.
I have many friends who disliked Prince JUST because of that.
Fans of rock, hip hop... I remember the performance of Facedown at Chris Rock, when I show it to so some of my friends who liked hip hop, they really liked it until he did his falsetto " Hee hee".

It clearly prevented many of my friends to take Prince seriously.
For us, singing in falsetto wasn't singing, whereas objectively it shows he has many ranges in his voice.
.

His gimmick vocals are what prevented many people to take Prince seriously, just like Michael Jackson.

Most people prefer sober singing, such as David Bowie for instance.
It made me wonder if some songs weren't wasted by his gimmick vocals. Sometimes he surely did too much.
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Reply #9 posted 03/19/21 11:50am

RODSERLING

ufoclub said:



TrevorAyer said:


His falsetto put him on the map in the early years and also cemented his superstardom with the number one smash Kiss .. in both cases his falsetto broadened his fan base


He started to hit bigger with "Controversy" "Little Red Corvette""1999""Delirious"

Let's Go Crazy, When Doves Cry, Purple Rain, Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Girls and Boys (I used to hear that on top 40 radio and sung by peeps in the halls), Sign 0' The Times, U Got the Look, Batdance, Alphabet St, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Get Off, Diamonds and Pearls....

Kiss seems to be his only falsetto mainstream hit am I forgetting something?

I do remember some guys in high school making fun of the falsetto, and they didn't make fun of When Doves Cry.



Controversy and WDC ars in falsetto.
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Reply #10 posted 03/19/21 11:50am

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COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:



CynicKill said:




ufoclub said:




He started to hit bigger with "Controversy" "Little Red Corvette""1999""Delirious"

Let's Go Crazy, When Doves Cry, Purple Rain, Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Girls and Boys (I used to hear that on top 40 radio and sung by peeps in the halls), Sign 0' The Times, U Got the Look, Batdance, Alphabet St, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Get Off, Diamonds and Pearls....

Kiss seems to be his only falsetto mainstream hit am I forgetting something?

I do remember some guys in high school making fun of the falsetto, and they didn't make fun of When Doves Cry.



You're forgetting his first bonafide smash "I Wanna Be Your Lover".






If you look at the 90's, The Most Beautiful Girl in the World was almost entirely falsetto and was a pretty big hit for him in that era as well.



TMBGIT was only number one hit in the UK. 'Kiss' was also in falsetto and was obviously a hit globally.
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Reply #11 posted 03/19/21 11:51am

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OperatingThetan said:[quote]

COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:



CynicKill said:




ufoclub said:




He started to hit bigger with "Controversy" "Little Red Corvette""1999""Delirious"

Let's Go Crazy, When Doves Cry, Purple Rain, Raspberry Beret, Pop Life, Girls and Boys (I used to hear that on top 40 radio and sung by peeps in the halls), Sign 0' The Times, U Got the Look, Batdance, Alphabet St, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Get Off, Diamonds and Pearls....

Kiss seems to be his only falsetto mainstream hit am I forgetting something?

I do remember some guys in high school making fun of the falsetto, and they didn't make fun of When Doves Cry.



You're forgetting his first bonafide smash "I Wanna Be Your Lover".






If you look at the 90's, The Most Beautiful Girl in the World was almost entirely falsetto and was a pretty big hit for him in that era as well.



TMBGITW was Prince's only number one hit in the UK. 'Kiss' was also in falsetto and was obviously a hit globally.

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Reply #12 posted 03/19/21 12:11pm

jdcxc

Prince was one of THE BIGGEST ever to do it...How much "bigger" did he need to be?

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Reply #13 posted 03/19/21 1:02pm

funkbabyandthe
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jdcxc said:

Prince was one of THE BIGGEST ever to do it...How much "bigger" did he need to be?



Sure. But go around the globe and more ppl know MJ than prince
Madonna too.
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Reply #14 posted 03/19/21 1:30pm

funkbabyandthe
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RODSERLING said:

Yes.
I have many friends who disliked Prince JUST because of that.
Fans of rock, hip hop... I remember the performance of Facedown at Chris Rock, when I show it to so some of my friends who liked hip hop, they really liked it until he did his falsetto " Hee hee".

It clearly prevented many of my friends to take Prince seriously.
For us, singing in falsetto wasn't singing, whereas objectively it shows he has many ranges in his voice.
.

His gimmick vocals are what prevented many people to take Prince seriously, just like Michael Jackson.

Most people prefer sober singing, such as David Bowie for instance.
It made me wonder if some songs weren't wasted by his gimmick vocals. Sometimes he surely did too much.


If prince sung everything 'sober' his music would be boring

He wouldn't be prince anymore
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Reply #15 posted 03/19/21 2:02pm

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

RODSERLING said:

Yes.
I have many friends who disliked Prince JUST because of that.
Fans of rock, hip hop... I remember the performance of Facedown at Chris Rock, when I show it to so some of my friends who liked hip hop, they really liked it until he did his falsetto " Hee hee".

It clearly prevented many of my friends to take Prince seriously.
For us, singing in falsetto wasn't singing, whereas objectively it shows he has many ranges in his voice.
.

His gimmick vocals are what prevented many people to take Prince seriously, just like Michael Jackson.

Most people prefer sober singing, such as David Bowie for instance.
It made me wonder if some songs weren't wasted by his gimmick vocals. Sometimes he surely did too much.


If prince sung everything 'sober' his music would be boring

He wouldn't be prince anymore


Yes, but in the end he maybe did too much of it. Cause in the end there was like 50.000 people in the world who bought his albums. When Bowie always sold one or two millions of his albums.

I think his most sober album ever was Rainbow Children, and when you think about it, it wasn't so sober than that!

I have many friends who disliked Prince who really loves News. Because you don't hear Prince'voice.
A friend-fan told me his wife thought the same thing about News.
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Reply #16 posted 03/19/21 2:25pm

funkbabyandthe
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Omg. News is just a bad album.

There are many better jazz albums.

But hey it's true that prince was a very big character as a singer

It's hard to ignore that

He was very unmistakable

I think he is soneone you either love or hate
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Reply #17 posted 03/19/21 2:33pm

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RODSERLING said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
If prince sung everything 'sober' his music would be boring He wouldn't be prince anymore
Yes, but in the end he maybe did too much of it. Cause in the end there was like 50.000 people in the world who bought his albums. When Bowie always sold one or two millions of his albums. I think his most sober album ever was Rainbow Children, and when you think about it, it wasn't so sober than that! I have many friends who disliked Prince who really loves News. Because you don't hear Prince'voice. A friend-fan told me his wife thought the same thing about News.

GTFOH with that 50.000 people shit.

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Reply #18 posted 03/19/21 4:01pm

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RODSERLING said:

Yes.
I have many friends who disliked Prince JUST because of that.
Fans of rock, hip hop... I remember the performance of Facedown at Chris Rock, when I show it to so some of my friends who liked hip hop, they really liked it until he did his falsetto " Hee hee".

It clearly prevented many of my friends to take Prince seriously.
For us, singing in falsetto wasn't singing, whereas objectively it shows he has many ranges in his voice.
.

His gimmick vocals are what prevented many people to take Prince seriously, just like Michael Jackson.

Most people prefer sober singing, such as David Bowie for instance.
It made me wonder if some songs weren't wasted by his gimmick vocals. Sometimes he surely did too much.


Some songs (imo) didn't lend itself to falsetto. His cover of Led Zeppelin "While Lotta Love" comes to mind. I know it was a live performance, but I would have loved to hear him sing it in the same vocal manner as "The Ride". Overall, his falsetto was, according to one publication when he first came out as the best in "RB since Smokey Robinson. I liked it for what he did with it most times.

As it relates to Bowie, his vocal register was different after the Ziggy Era as he transitioned to Plastic Soul for the the albums prior to the Berlin Trilogy. His Ziggy Era albums had a snarly, whine vs the lower sound of his later albums. Just my opinion of course, but huge fan of both.
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Reply #19 posted 03/19/21 4:27pm

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RODSERLING said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
If prince sung everything 'sober' his music would be boring He wouldn't be prince anymore
Yes, but in the end he maybe did too much of it. Cause in the end there was like 50.000 people in the world who bought his albums. When Bowie always sold one or two millions of his albums. I think his most sober album ever was Rainbow Children, and when you think about it, it wasn't so sober than that! I have many friends who disliked Prince who really loves News. Because you don't hear Prince'voice. A friend-fan told me his wife thought the same thing about News.


But... If they truly disliked Prince, why on earth would your "many friends" even bother listening to an hour long instrumental album, consisting of four 14 minute tracks? It just doesn't sound very plausible to me.

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Reply #20 posted 03/19/21 5:25pm

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Wasn't this just a topic since the beginning of the year????

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #21 posted 03/19/21 11:00pm

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Stop the madness.

Prince sing in every register.

Either u dug him......or u didn't.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #22 posted 03/20/21 1:23am

anguillaism

Without falsetto, Prince would not be Prince.
Is it a gimmick, sometimes? Yeah
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Reply #23 posted 03/20/21 3:25am

Harps

It's a great question and whilst I love many of his falsetto tracks such as Scandalous and Adore, my favourites are the ones he delivers in his lower register.

I never really cared for International Lover until the live version on 1999 SDE which is far superior in my opinion.

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Reply #24 posted 03/20/21 3:39am

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Omg. News is just a bad album.

There are many better jazz albums.

But hey it's true that prince was a very big character as a singer

It's hard to ignore that

He was very unmistakable

I think he is soneone you either love or hate


Of course News is bad.
I think that ludicrous you love News, but you don't like Prince.
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Reply #25 posted 03/20/21 3:41am

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RODSERLING said:


funkbabyandthebabysitters said:
If prince sung everything 'sober' his music would be boring He wouldn't be prince anymore

Yes, but in the end he maybe did too much of it. Cause in the end there was like 50.000 people in the world who bought his albums. When Bowie always sold one or two millions of his albums. I think his most sober album ever was Rainbow Children, and when you think about it, it wasn't so sober than that! I have many friends who disliked Prince who really loves News. Because you don't hear Prince'voice. A friend-fan told me his wife thought the same thing about News.



But... If they truly disliked Prince, why on earth would your "many friends" even bother listening to an hour long instrumental album, consisting of four 14 minute tracks? It just doesn't sound very plausible to me.



Because when we were young and spending time smoking some shit, we were listening to music amd I always brought some Prince albums with me!
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Reply #26 posted 03/20/21 5:57am

wilmer

Different strokes for different folks! I love Prince's falsetto singing, it complements his other registers. It keeps things interesting.
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Reply #27 posted 03/20/21 7:37am

jdcxc

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Different strokes for different folks! I love Prince's falsetto singing, it complements his other registers. It keeps things interesting.

Exactly. His Falsetto is part of his complex musical toolbox. It is thrilling when he uses it for dramatic creative effect...check out "U Know" and "Give em What U Want"...brilliant vocals.

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Reply #28 posted 03/20/21 10:33am

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RODSERLING said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Omg. News is just a bad album.

There are many better jazz albums.

But hey it's true that prince was a very big character as a singer

It's hard to ignore that

He was very unmistakable

I think he is soneone you either love or hate


Of course News is bad.
I think that ludicrous you love News, but you don't like Prince.


I thought no one would listen to news unless they were huge prince fans
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Reply #29 posted 03/20/21 2:00pm

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Prince had the third best falsetto known to man (just behind Al Green and Marvin Gaye). It's my favorite Prince "voice".

Other honorable mentions:

Snokey Robinson

Curtis Mayfield

D'Angelo

Eddie Kendricks

Thom Yorke

Michael Jackson

Jeff Buckley

Freddie Mercury

Phillip Bailey

Andy Gibb

Little Richard

Roy Orbison

Del Shannon

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