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Reply #30 posted 03/15/21 5:51pm

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There is some real filler on pfunk albums. But yeah I agree in the 90s Prince went to far with the SEGUES!!!
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Reply #31 posted 03/16/21 7:34am

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If you think about the godfather of funk (not soul) that would be James Brown. However, contrasted with P-funk it's kinda repetitive, often reliant on the same riff throughout.

P-funk at it's best is more hooky, and therefore funkier. And don't forget where funky music really began. Back around 1926/1927, when Duke Ellington and Louis Armstrong began recording.

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Reply #32 posted 03/16/21 10:53am

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I could make the argument that a lot of Camille tracks are heavily p-funk influenced. The beats, the weird sounds and crazy filters. The mix of rock and funk with an emphasis on guitar that Funkadelic leaned into.

I think I could make a double or triple Prince album that would be a fine homage to pfunk. Camille, The Black Album and Exodus would get me half way there.

Exodus was prince following the p fun revival that dr dre started in 92.


This.

Exodus IS Prince's definitive funk album -- not just in my opinion but from every funk lover I know who's heard it. Problem is, not enough people heard it. That title track alone is 100% raw p-funk style. (yes, I KNOW it's not technically a title track for the more pedantic nitpickers amongst us. We know who they are he is).

Thing is...it was just ONE part of Prince's sound in addition to so many others (James Brown, Sly, Santana, EW&F, Stevie Wonder, Joni, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, Tower of Power) but it's definitely there. Hard to pin down but certainly part of the Purple Stew.

I think an argument can be made for (off the top of my head)

Shockadelica
Rebirth of the Flesh
Bob George
The Exodus Has Begun
Return of the Bump Squad
Housequake
DMSR
We Can Fuck
Come On
Head
Anotherloverholeinyohead
Push It Up
Freaks On This SIde
Get Wild
Hide the Bone
3121
Rock Hard in a Funky Place

...Some of those might be a reach but u know what I mean and my ears register it.

Like the saying goes, "If U can desribe it, it aint funky"

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Reply #33 posted 03/16/21 12:21pm

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herb4 said:

I could make the argument that a lot of Camille tracks are heavily p-funk influenced. The beats, the weird sounds and crazy filters. The mix of rock and funk with an emphasis on guitar that Funkadelic leaned into.

I think I could make a double or triple Prince album that would be a fine homage to pfunk. Camille, The Black Album and Exodus would get me half way there.

Exodus was prince following the p fun revival that dr dre started in 92.


This.

Exodus IS Prince's definitive funk album -- not just in my opinion but from every funk lover I know who's heard it. Problem is, not enough people heard it. That title track alone is 100% raw p-funk style. (yes, I KNOW it's not technically a title track for the more pedantic nitpickers amongst us. We know who they are he is).

Thing is...it was just ONE part of Prince's sound in addition to so many others (James Brown, Sly, Santana, EW&F, Stevie Wonder, Joni, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, Tower of Power) but it's definitely there. Hard to pin down but certainly part of the Purple Stew.

I think an argument can be made for (off the top of my head)

Shockadelica
Rebirth of the Flesh
Bob George
The Exodus Has Begun
Return of the Bump Squad
Housequake
DMSR
We Can Fuck
Come On
Head
Anotherloverholeinyohead
Push It Up
Freaks On This SIde
Get Wild
Hide the Bone
3121
Rock Hard in a Funky Place

...Some of those might be a reach but u know what I mean and my ears register it.

Like the saying goes, "If U can desribe it, it aint funky"

Yeah, and when P created characters like Spooky Electric, or Annie Christian - or Jamie Starr, even - that always reminded me of George's Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk or Dr Funkenstein himself... and I always thought some of the extended 12"s (Kiss / I Wish U Heaven / La La La He He Hee) felt really P-Funk influenced- not so much the grooves themselves but the tone of them - the comedy - and the wild, endless experimentation...

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Reply #34 posted 03/16/21 3:23pm

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herb4 said:

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Yeah, and when P created characters like Spooky Electric, or Annie Christian - or Jamie Starr, even - that always reminded me of George's Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk or Dr Funkenstein himself... and I always thought some of the extended 12"s (Kiss / I Wish U Heaven / La La La He He Hee) felt really P-Funk influenced- not so much the grooves themselves but the tone of them - the comedy - and the wild, endless experimentation...


I forgot about Positivity, especially the end. You're right about the tone and the comedy too.

Just another layer on the funk cake if you ask me. I can't imagine a fan not hearing it or denying that Pairlament was an influence on Prince growing up. If he wasn't continuing the legacy, I'm not sure who was besides the samplers and hip hop acts who were mentioned before.

I even left out Erotic City and Scarlet Pussy, speaking of b-sides.

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