Reply #30 posted 02/28/21 11:49am
fragglerock |
udo said:
As Duane is now 'tainted', I am in doubt...
this is absolutely something to keep in the back of your ind while reading his work going foward |
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Reply #31 posted 02/28/21 12:09pm
Margot |
I still have purchased the book.
I think we need to keep some of the 'flaws' in mind but buy the book.
I have a sinking feeling that we as Prince fans don't support efforts that are being made
to feed his legacy.
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Reply #32 posted 02/28/21 5:00pm
bluefish |
fragglerock said:
udo said:
As Duane is now 'tainted', I am in doubt...
this is absolutely something to keep in the back of your ind while reading his work going foward
"Tainted" why? Because he works for the estate? Duane clearly explained that his work for the estate is not connected to his books, and vice versa. What's the problem?
I'm getting tired of people crapping all over everything the estate does. They're far from perfect, but at least they're making an effort. I'm just grateful they haven't followed the blueprints of the Michael Jackson estate.
https://www.youtube.com/@PurpleKnightsPodcast |
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Reply #33 posted 03/01/21 12:51am
JorisE73
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bluefish said:
fragglerock said:
this is absolutely something to keep in the back of your ind while reading his work going foward
"Tainted" why? Because he works for the estate? Duane clearly explained that his work for the estate is not connected to his books, and vice versa. What's the problem?
I'm getting tired of people crapping all over everything the estate does. They're far from perfect, but at least they're making an effort. I'm just grateful they haven't followed the blueprints of the Michael Jackson estate.
What's stopping them from looking at artists who do serious archival releases and take a note from them??
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Reply #34 posted 03/01/21 1:35am
fredmagnus
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bluefish said:
fragglerock said:
this is absolutely something to keep in the back of your ind while reading his work going foward
"Tainted" why? Because he works for the estate? Duane clearly explained that his work for the estate is not connected to his books, and vice versa. What's the problem?
I'm getting tired of people crapping all over everything the estate does. They're far from perfect, but at least they're making an effort. I'm just grateful they haven't followed the blueprints of the Michael Jackson estate.
Exactly my thoughts.
"Tired" is the word... |
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Reply #35 posted 03/01/21 7:55am
Margot |
'Fans' seem to find all kinds of reasons as to why they can't/won't invest in the recent albums;
now it's Duane's book. A fickle group. |
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Reply #36 posted 03/02/21 7:44am
Margot |
I've been reading the down-loaded first chapter and it now seems very clear to me. Prince
was compelled to write and record. It did not seem to be much of a choice.
Even after sound-checking, performing in the main show, followed by after-shows, he had to
find studios in every circumstance.
It sounded exhausting to me but I think that was where he gained energy.
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Reply #37 posted 03/02/21 7:49am
jaawwnn |
Margot said:
I've been reading the down-loaded first chapter and it now seems very clear to me. Prince
was compelled to write and record. It did not seem to be much of a choice.
Even after sound-checking, performing in the main show, followed by after-shows, he had to
find studios in every circumstance.
It sounded exhausting to me but I think that was where he gained energy.
A few people have commented on this over the years; writing songs is how he made sense of the world and communicated with others. They say he wasn't shy as such, but had difficulty in communicating with people in other more standard ways. It makes sense to me. |
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Reply #38 posted 03/02/21 8:28am
tab32792 |
bluefish said:
fragglerock said:
this is absolutely something to keep in the back of your ind while reading his work going foward
"Tainted" why? Because he works for the estate? Duane clearly explained that his work for the estate is not connected to his books, and vice versa. What's the problem?
I'm getting tired of people crapping all over everything the estate does. They're far from perfect, but at least they're making an effort. I'm just grateful they haven't followed the blueprints of the Michael Jackson estate.
He specifically said that he wouldn't and didn't put certain stuff in the book because of his association with them. on top of the fact that he has a very clear Revolution bias. |
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Reply #39 posted 03/02/21 8:36am
jaawwnn |
tab32792 said:
bluefish said:
"Tainted" why? Because he works for the estate? Duane clearly explained that his work for the estate is not connected to his books, and vice versa. What's the problem?
I'm getting tired of people crapping all over everything the estate does. They're far from perfect, but at least they're making an effort. I'm just grateful they haven't followed the blueprints of the Michael Jackson estate.
He specifically said that he wouldn't and didn't put certain stuff in the book because of his association with them. on top of the fact that he has a very clear Revolution bias.
1983-1986 has a clear Revolution bias. |
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Reply #40 posted 03/02/21 8:43am
purplethunder3 121 |
jaawwnn said:
tab32792 said:
He specifically said that he wouldn't and didn't put certain stuff in the book because of his association with them. on top of the fact that he has a very clear Revolution bias.
1983-1986 has a clear Revolution bias.
That is NOT what he said. He stated that he couldn't divulge any sources belonging to the Estate discovered in his work an a researcher for them but that he could certainly use other outside sources unrelated to the Estate to prove the same facts. And I saw no indication of a "very clear Revolution bias." Those were the peak years of Prince's time with the revolution so, of course, there is a lot of focus on it.
[Edited 3/2/21 8:53am] "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #41 posted 03/02/21 8:57am
LoveGalore |
purplethunder3121 said:
jaawwnn said:
tab32792 said:
He specifically said that he wouldn't and didn't put certain stuff in the book because of his association with them. on top of the fact that he has a very clear Revolution bias.
1983-1986 has a clear Revolution bias.
That is NOT what he said. He stated that he couldn't divulge any sources belonging to the Estate discovered in his work an a researcher for them but that he could certainly use other outside sources unrelated to the Estate to prove the same facts. And I saw no indication of a "very clear Revolution bias." Those were the peak years of Prince's time with the revolution so, of course, there is a lot of focus on it.
[Edited 3/2/21 8:53am]
I think people ultimately take issue with his editorializing on the content which I think one may naturally do when the facts are verified on both sides. Unfortunately the average diehard prince fan thinks their headcanon is more important and they really don't .ind loads of confirmation bias. [Edited 3/2/21 8:57am] |
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Reply #42 posted 03/02/21 9:05am
Margot |
As I read the first chapter, I am hyper-alert to an overemphasis on the Revolution.
It's been refreshing to read more of Lisa's observations, as she has tended to remain in the background in the past.
I tend to take Wendy's statements w/a grain of salt as she is egoistic in my view.
So far, I am seeing more of Lisa and a few statements from B.Z and M.F. but they have been less
of a verbal presence in the past. Susan Rogers can be a bit annoying to me as well and I often take her personal observations of Prince w/some reluctance but I do enjoy her engineering insights
Some of Prince's charity work is so endearing. |
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Reply #43 posted 03/02/21 9:12am
Margot |
jaawwnn said:
Margot said:
I've been reading the down-loaded first chapter and it now seems very clear to me. Prince
was compelled to write and record. It did not seem to be much of a choice.
Even after sound-checking, performing in the main show, followed by after-shows, he had to
find studios in every circumstance.
It sounded exhausting to me but I think that was where he gained energy.
A few people have commented on this over the years; writing songs is how he made sense of the world and communicated with others. They say he wasn't shy as such, but had difficulty in communicating with people in other more standard ways. It makes sense to me.
Very interesting insight. |
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Reply #44 posted 03/02/21 9:27am
jaawwnn |
I just hope I don't have to buy this twice like I did last time |
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Reply #45 posted 03/02/21 9:47am
Margot |
jaawwnn said:
I just hope I don't have to buy this twice like I did last time
It's 700 pages so hopefully you won't. |
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Reply #46 posted 03/03/21 8:54pm
Germanegro |
I knew there was a reason why I should keep checking up on the Org!
Thanks, soladeo1--I pre-ordered a copy of the new volume, too. This will be very nice to have and highly valued.
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Reply #47 posted 03/04/21 8:31am
purplethunder3 121 |
Germanegro said:
I knew there was a reason why I should keep checking up on the Org!
Thanks, soladeo1--I pre-ordered a copy of the new volume, too. This will be very nice to have and highly valued.
And the cover art is beautiful. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 |
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