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Thread started 01/10/21 11:50pm

funkman88

Who was the 1st guitar players Prince challenges when he got 2 Heaven?

Prince was k own to be super competitive so I know he wanted to show he was the best there so I think Chuck berry, Terry Kath,Dimebag Darrel,Eddie Hazel and Jimi Hendrix were 1st on his list...who else?
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Reply #1 posted 01/11/21 12:08am

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I like to think that Heaven is not About having to prove yourself again once in. Everyone knows who you are. cool

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Reply #2 posted 01/11/21 5:03am

RJOrion

what and where is "heaven"?..and how do you know that Prince (or the guitarists that you seek to compare him to) is there?
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Reply #3 posted 01/11/21 11:12am

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RJOrion said:

what and where is "heaven"?..and how do you know that Prince (or the guitarists that you seek to compare him to) is there?

I think he just meant theorically, as in "would + if". It's just a game.

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Reply #4 posted 01/11/21 11:26am

Margot

The need to compete and excel is likely transcended in Heaven, but just for fun, I bet there would be a long line of late guitarists he would want to jam with; Chuck Berry, Duane Allman, Jimi, Albert King,

maybe Stevie RV for starters.

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Reply #5 posted 01/11/21 12:04pm

soladeo1

Could you imagine a band where Prince was the rythym player and SRV was the lead???

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Reply #6 posted 01/11/21 12:09pm

Margot

soladeo1 said:

Could you imagine a band where Prince was the rythym player and SRV was the lead???

Yes. Prince, though??

I heard SRV was a great rythym player too.

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Reply #7 posted 01/11/21 1:26pm

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RJOrion said:


what and where is "heaven"?..and how do you know that Prince (or the guitarists that you seek to compare him to) is there?

I think he just meant theorically, as in "would + if". It's just a game.




i dont know... people all over the world take certain beliefs literally, but you might be right...
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Reply #8 posted 01/11/21 2:16pm

looby

Obviously, you know absolutely nothing about heaven, and that's all I have to say on that.

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Reply #9 posted 01/11/21 2:33pm

Rimshottbob

Well, this thread went well.

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Reply #10 posted 01/11/21 3:17pm

funkman88

RJOrion said:

what and where is "heaven"?..and how do you know that Prince (or the guitarists that you seek to compare him to) is there?

All famous people go there and Heaven is in the sky right above earth
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Reply #11 posted 01/11/21 5:37pm

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Hendrix guitar

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #12 posted 01/12/21 6:52am

SPYZFAN1

With the exception of Jesse, he didn't challenge any guitar players when he was here on earth..so why would he challenge any other guitarists in the afterworld?

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Reply #13 posted 01/12/21 8:37am

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RJOrion said:

databank said:

I think he just meant theorically, as in "would + if". It's just a game.

i dont know... people all over the world take certain beliefs literally, but you might be right...

Believing in a better afterworld is one thing. Believing in an afterworld where people play the guitar is something else entirely lol

Why not after all, you'll tell me? IDK. It just sounds a little naive to me. Too litteral precisely.

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Reply #14 posted 01/13/21 12:33am

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I don't know about challenging them, but I'd like to see him play the bass, with Jimi Hendrix on guitar and Miles Davis on keyboards. lol

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Reply #15 posted 01/13/21 5:59am

thebanishedone

Margot said:

soladeo1 said:

Could you imagine a band where Prince was the rythym player and SRV was the lead???

Yes. Prince, though??

I heard SRV was a great rythym player too.

U wanna say that Ray Vaugh was better than Prince on lead?

Cause Stevie played the same recycled blues patterns like most of blues guitar players.what made him different is he played it fast in a shuffle kind of manner and he was great at that.but he never strayed away from blues scale.

Prince explored the instrumenent and very often played dorian,lydian,mixolydian,phrigian modes,mixed with chromatics.Stevie Ray never touched any of that,and 4 me the best Steve Ray Vaughn is the stuff he played on David Bowie's Let's Dance album cause he was out of his blues element .

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Reply #16 posted 01/13/21 7:35am

SPYZFAN1

It's unfair to compare SRV's playing style to P's playing style...They were two totally different players playing two totally different styles of music. Only thing they may have had in common was that they were both popular in the 80's...Comparing them would be like comparing Robert Cray to Charlie Singleton (Cameo)...they're both great, but they're totally different in their styles of music they play.

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Reply #17 posted 01/13/21 8:29am

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I don't know about challenging them, but I'd like to see him play the bass, with Jimi Hendrix on guitar and Miles Davis on keyboards. lol

Miles was any good on keys? eek

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Reply #18 posted 01/13/21 9:18am

thebanishedone

SPYZFAN1 said:

It's unfair to compare SRV's playing style to P's playing style...They were two totally different players playing two totally different styles of music. Only thing they may have had in common was that they were both popular in the 80's...Comparing them would be like comparing Robert Cray to Charlie Singleton (Cameo)...they're both great, but they're totally different in their styles of music they play.

I agree that they are very different,but if we take Hendrix as the meeting point ,both Stevie and Prince were influenced by Jimi Hendrix than we can observe the following:

Jimi was searching for new sounds,new ways of playing,yes he was influenced by Buddy Guy,

Albert King but he was not in a comfort zone.

Stevie Ray was a great student of blues,what he added is a stylistic change

in terms that he made his sound and that was his unique way

of playing fast blues shuffles.So he was great

at what he did,but he was just recycling,he was always playing the same traditional blues patterns.

Prince as a guitarist was searching .He was influenced by Santana,Hendrix ...but he made it his own.

And contrary to rumors Prince made a brand new guitar style .It's 1982-1983 period where he combined all kind of crazy elements of funk,rock,punk,noise in his style .examples Lady Cab Driver Solo,Drive Me Wild extended 12 inch version,Automatic studio version Automatic 1999 delux version,Lady Cab Driver 29th nov 1982 Detroit (the second solo when they go into b section cause it's Dez doing the first solo. And the most famous ,the intro to When Doves Cry.The problem was that style was not commercial,it was too weird and too out there.It was more closer to the anti guitar hero side of the things.After that Prince went into conventional conception of what a guitar hero should play,so he played clean precise...but always searching for different notes,different licks and Prince's music theory was vast compared to Stevie. Prince used a lot of modes,like i mentioned in previous post but people who don't know modes think he plays pentatonic.lol.he used a lot of cool chromatic licks. So when somebody say Steve Ray Vaughn is better guitar player i just think better at what? better at being more conservative and conventional.in his category is Clapton a good guitar player but always into his comfort zone recycling his heroes,and John Mayer.Clapton Stevie and Mayer in terms of aprouch to guitar.

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Reply #19 posted 01/13/21 9:51am

SPYZFAN1

Good points, but maybe SRV was cool with where he was at guitar wise. He kicked ass on Jimi's "Voodoo Chile", but he also played great quiet, jazzy/Wes style stuff on "Rivera Paradise". You also have to remember that SRV pretty much brought blues to the forefront in the "hair metal/synth/drum machine" era of the 80's....His style of music didn't need a bunch of exotic, speedy scales..it wasn't "Return To Forever".....I wasn't a huge fan of his, but I dug and respected what he could do....His style and lead playing worked for his music...That 1982-83 guitar style you mention about P?..It may have been intentional because he didn't want to get hit with the "sounds like Hendrix" stereotype (black dude playing an electric guitar) while trying to create his own thing.....Yeah, he got hit with it during the "P.R." era, but maybe that's why he abandoned that and moved on to the JB/ slick soul revue style for "Parade"....he had his 1984/85 guitar hero moment and was ready to do something new......The "better guitarist" thing is subjective, individual and personal.

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Reply #20 posted 01/13/21 10:00am

thebanishedone

SPYZFAN1 said:

Good points, but maybe SRV was cool with where he was at guitar wise. He kicked ass on Jimi's "Voodoo Chile", but he also played great quiet, jazzy/Wes style stuff on "Rivera Paradise". You also have to remember that SRV pretty much brought blues to the forefront in the "hair metal/synth/drum machine" era of the 80's....His style of music didn't need a bunch of exotic, speedy scales..it wasn't "Return To Forever".....I wasn't a huge fan of his, but I dug and respected what he could do....His style and lead playing worked for his music...That 1982-83 guitar style you mention about P?..It may have been intentional because he didn't want to get hit with the "sounds like Hendrix" stereotype (black dude playing an electric guitar) while trying to create his own thing.....Yeah, he got hit with it during the "P.R." era, but maybe that's why he abandoned that and moved on to the JB/ slick soul revue style for "Parade"....he had his 1984/85 guitar hero moment and was ready to do something new......The "better guitarist" thing is subjective, individual and personal.

i agree the best is always about personal taste smile

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Reply #21 posted 01/13/21 3:28pm

SPYZFAN1

smile ..exactly!

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Reply #22 posted 01/14/21 5:29am

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databank said:

olb99 said:

I don't know about challenging them, but I'd like to see him play the bass, with Jimi Hendrix on guitar and Miles Davis on keyboards. lol

Miles was any good on keys? eek

Good or frightening, depending on your taste: https://www.youtube.com/w...enK0gPEuzI

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Reply #23 posted 01/14/21 6:28am

thebanishedone

olb99 said:

databank said:

Miles was any good on keys? eek

Good or frightening, depending on your taste: https://www.youtube.com/w...enK0gPEuzI

u didn't give a good example,so yes Miles was very good on piano,keys,played a lot of oberhaim synths in the 80s studio and live

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Reply #24 posted 01/14/21 7:49am

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If heaven would excist, I would prefer to be in hell, where all the great rock stars and guitar players would heat up the fire with bruning sound and deafening solo's. biggrin

And Prince would beat them all. biggrin

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #25 posted 01/14/21 9:22am

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If Heaven is Paradise doesn't that mean that everyone is great at whatever they want? It's Paradise. You can play guitar like Prince. Throw hoops like Michael Jordan.

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Reply #26 posted 01/14/21 10:03am

RJOrion

Vannormal said:

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If heaven would excist, I would prefer to be in hell, where all the great rock stars and guitar players would heat up the fire with bruning sound and deafening solo's. biggrin


And Prince would beat them all. biggrin


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if one is to believe the ancient books are correct, thats probably where theyre all at... not sure the guitar strings, neck, body and headstocks would hold up well under the intense heat...besides, fretting the chords with the fiery lesions and blistering on their fingertips, from the persistent flames, would be impossible to pull off... more likely, they are there rethinking ever signing that deal with the devil to play Lucifer's magical instruments... according to "folklore", of course
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Reply #27 posted 01/14/21 10:30am

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There would be people in heaven who have been there for thousands of years. I'm sure many of them took up the guitar and exceeded the skill of anyone to ever live on Earth. They will quickly humbly any feeble Earth guitarist who turns up at the pearly gates with a challenge.

RIP sad
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Reply #28 posted 01/14/21 10:46am

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databank said:



olb99 said:


I don't know about challenging them, but I'd like to see him play the bass, with Jimi Hendrix on guitar and Miles Davis on keyboards. lol



Miles was any good on keys? eek


Sure. Miles opened a lot of doors.
O tempora! O mores!
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Reply #29 posted 01/14/21 11:06am

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Interesting question. I’d like to believe there are no challenges in heaven and that he would make beautiful music with whoever he runs into. Imagine an prince and mj duet in heaven featuring Hendrix lol
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