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Thread started 12/11/20 8:47pm

gandorb

Which songs did Prince best express his vulnerability?

Prince had such a swag, charisma and musicality that vulnerability isn't the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about his music. However, there are some songs that do show a vulnerable side of him. Which are your favorite examples of this type of song? I will just list a couple so that others can add their selections as well..

Condition of the Heart - His vocal here is so tender and plaintive.

Wally - His pain seeps through despite his humor.

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Reply #1 posted 12/11/20 9:13pm

homesquid

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"Anna Stesia"

"If I Was Your Girlfriend"

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Reply #2 posted 12/11/20 11:15pm

rednblue

Empty Room - Love the way the driving vocals and guitar play off each other, and the feel of both.

Comeback - As with Empty Room and so many other songs, P is just amazing at expressing with his vocals. The vocals here go along with the acoustic guitar to make the whole song sound to me beautifully light, achingly wistful, fragile.

Breakdown

The Dance

Nothing Compares 2 U

Papa

The Beautiful Ones

Touch Me/ Sunrise Sunset

maybe Colonized Mind

Hello?

Dark?

Not sure about Dark. Any vulnerability in Dark would be some fierce vulnerability. lol

Also unsure of others. Maybe in some cases it's more to things like reverence or regret. Then there's P's fun songs about wild obsession, e.g. Automatic. Or sadness about missing someone. P has lots of songs about missing someone. Lots of lonely songs. 17 Days, It's Gonna Be Lonely, Another Lonely Christmas, There is Lonely, etc.

So many great songs that it's hard to pick favorites. Do really love Empty Room. Sorry to list so many. If I should delete some from post, please just say so. Bad form to hog Prince songs!

[Edited 12/12/20 7:08am]

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Reply #3 posted 12/12/20 2:08am

funkbabyandthe
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He didnt

He was guarded, or aloof, even singing ballads. Adore even is full of him preening.

Anna stesia is beautiful but hardly expressing his vulnerability. The lyrics are too dense to really extrapolate much that is clear

If I was your gf is the closest to revealing some vulnerability

Maybe empty room

On the whole though, prince was not kurt Cobain

He was fine exposing anger or hurt at others treating him badly

But never exposing much self reflection or self blame at all
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Reply #4 posted 12/12/20 2:18am

IwonderMe

- Somethin in the water

- Gigolos get lonely, too

- Open book

- Don't play me

- Tangerine

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Reply #5 posted 12/12/20 3:05am

funkbabyandthe
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Gigolos get lonely, too

lol

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Reply #6 posted 12/12/20 3:25am

SexyMuthaF

How come u don't call me anymore
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Reply #7 posted 12/12/20 3:59am

SimonCharles

The opening couple of lines to Solo spring to mind.

Comeback - from The Truth?

When You Were Mine?

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Reply #8 posted 12/12/20 5:30am

rednblue

In last night's uncertainty, I wondered if there is such a thing as "vulnerable bravado." lol

Was also thinking that I should look up "vulnerable" in the dictionary. I didn't, as it was late and I was lazy, but better late than never. I know for sure gandorb knows a lot more about these psychology topics than I do, but FWIW, here's what the Merriam-Webster site says:

Definition of vulnerable

1: capable of being physically or emotionally wounded
2: open to attack or damage : ASSAILABLEvulnerable to criticism
3: liable to increased penalties but entitled to increased bonuses after winning a game in contract bridge




As to OP intent...probably safe to rule out #3, though you never know with P and contracts.

Princeworld-wise, it's tempting to continue to be silly and take the bridge-card-game context out of #3. Then you have "liable to increased penalties but entitled to increased bonuses after winning" in a contract game.

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Reply #9 posted 12/12/20 5:30am

rednblue

,

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Reply #10 posted 12/12/20 6:27am

radici27

June

There is Lonely

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Reply #11 posted 12/12/20 7:32am

rednblue

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

He didnt He was guarded, or aloof, even singing ballads. Adore even is full of him preening. Anna stesia is beautiful but hardly expressing his vulnerability. The lyrics are too dense to really extrapolate much that is clear If I was your gf is the closest to revealing some vulnerability Maybe empty room On the whole though, prince was not kurt Cobain He was fine exposing anger or hurt at others treating him badly But never exposing much self reflection or self blame at all [Edited 12/12/20 2:09am] [Edited 12/12/20 2:10am]


What can he say that Shakespeare hasn't said before?

Seriously, though, I completely take your point in that he could be incredibly guarded.

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Reply #12 posted 12/12/20 8:36am

funkbabyandthe
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He wrote passionate sad songs and performed them.with emotion
Properly vulnerable though, idk?
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Reply #13 posted 12/12/20 9:51am

onlyforaminute

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radici27 said:

June

There is Lonely

Agree

Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #14 posted 12/12/20 11:16am

Margot

He cried on stage while singing these songs: (There may be more I don't know about)

-Forever in My Life

-The Love We Make

-The Breakdown

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Reply #15 posted 12/12/20 11:25am

Margot

IMO, Prince knew how to act swaggy, (No. Minnie), not certain he always felt it.

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Reply #16 posted 12/12/20 3:19pm

gandorb

There was a series of ballads he sang in the 2nd Piano and Mic show in Atlanta. It was a beautiful sequence but I know he commented in a vulnerable way something to the effect how sad those love/breakup songs were. He just sounded so open and vulnerable then.
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Reply #17 posted 12/12/20 3:56pm

FanAllMyLife

Prince was both blessed and cursed by his Pride.

Blessed in the sense of what he accomplished in the sense of music and financial success.

But cursed in the sense of making himself appear vulnerable to the public.

It's hard to be humble when you're living in two worlds:

(1) He created a image, almost a superhero, in Prince the musician. And he lived in that world very often. Endless amount of music production, concerts, press releases, etc. But he chose his lyrics very carefully, in what he wanted the public to know about his personal life. He was just starting to make himself vulnerable with Emancipation. "Baby" off Emancipation was such an intimate look into his personal life.

(2) But then there's his personal life. Where everyone is forced to sign Nondisclosures. Secrets. And he spent equal if not more time in his personal life than his career. But he was too afraid. Fear. Too afraid to make himself vulnerable by exposing things form his personal life at the risk of the public's opinion.

Just my 2 cents smile

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Reply #18 posted 12/12/20 4:58pm

Goddess4Real

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Don't Talk 2 Strangers (1996)

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #19 posted 12/12/20 5:24pm

Margot

FanAllMyLife said:

Prince was both blessed and cursed by his Pride.

Blessed in the sense of what he accomplished in the sense of music and financial success.

But cursed in the sense of making himself appear vulnerable to the public.

It's hard to be humble when you're living in two worlds:

(1) He created a image, almost a superhero, in Prince the musician. And he lived in that world very often. Endless amount of music production, concerts, press releases, etc. But he chose his lyrics very carefully, in what he wanted the public to know about his personal life. He was just starting to make himself vulnerable with Emancipation. "Baby" off Emancipation was such an intimate look into his personal life.

(2) But then there's his personal life. Where everyone is forced to sign Nondisclosures. Secrets. And he spent equal if not more time in his personal life than his career. But he was too afraid. Fear. Too afraid to make himself vulnerable by exposing things form his personal life at the risk of the public's opinion.

Just my 2 cents smile

Yes, 100%

Some of us have spent alot of energy trying to understand (out of interest/love) #2 with quite a bit of push-back.

One needs to perfect the skill of 'reading between the lines', but it can be a treacherous endeavor.

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Reply #20 posted 12/12/20 8:29pm

Nightcrawler

Eye love U, but I don‘t trust U anymore
See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #21 posted 12/12/20 10:47pm

funkbabyandthe
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Nightcrawler said:

Eye love U, but I don‘t trust U anymore


Good one. Maybe his most naked song/vocal
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Reply #22 posted 12/13/20 4:37am

RJOrion

I Wanna Be Your Lover
When You Were Mine
Gotta Broken Heart Again
Condition Of The Heart
Its Gonna Be Lonely
Something In The Water
I Would Die 4 U
Crazy You
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Reply #23 posted 12/13/20 7:20am

SexyMuthaF

Seem like we definitely got different definitions of vulnerability going on Lol
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Reply #24 posted 12/13/20 8:49am

funkbabyandthe
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I nominate bambi.
Really put his heart on the line there, exposing his deep wound that a lesbian wasnt going to let him make sweet love to her. Has a man ever had to deal with worse treatment? No wonder he was so hurt.
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Reply #25 posted 12/13/20 8:57am

rednblue

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

I nominate bambi. Really put his heart on the line there, exposing his deep wound that a lesbian wasnt going to let him make sweet love to her. Has a man ever had to deal with worse treatment? No wonder he was so hurt. [Edited 12/13/20 8:50am]


Do like this bit from I Wanna Be Your Lover, because it's IMO imaginable and relatable:

"and I get discouraged
Cuz U treat me just like a child"

Will leave it to others to give opinion on whether I Wanna Be Your Lover is notable for expressing vulnerability.

Edited to add: I replied to the wrong thing, as this was in response to your earlier take on I Wanna Be Your Lover.

[Edited 12/13/20 9:00am]

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Reply #26 posted 12/13/20 12:59pm

Margot

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

I nominate bambi. Really put his heart on the line there, exposing his deep wound that a lesbian wasnt going to let him make sweet love to her. Has a man ever had to deal with worse treatment? No wonder he was so hurt. [Edited 12/13/20 8:50am]

Snarkey!

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Reply #27 posted 12/13/20 1:08pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

Other vulnerable songs

It
Head
Darling nikki
Temptation
Rock hard in a funky place
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Reply #28 posted 12/13/20 1:09pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

Margot said:



funkbabyandthebabysitters said:


I nominate bambi. Really put his heart on the line there, exposing his deep wound that a lesbian wasnt going to let him make sweet love to her. Has a man ever had to deal with worse treatment? No wonder he was so hurt. [Edited 12/13/20 8:50am]


Snarkey!



Huh
neutral confused
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Reply #29 posted 12/13/20 2:59pm

Margot

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Margot said:

Snarkey!

Huh neutral confused

I thought you were kidding...sorry

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