I like to think that Heaven is not About having to prove yourself again once in. Everyone knows who you are.

RJOrion said:

what and where is "heaven"?..and how do you know that Prince (or the guitarists that you seek to compare him to) is there?

I think he just meant theorically, as in "would + if". It's just a game.

The need to compete and excel is likely transcended in Heaven, but just for fun, I bet there would be a long line of late guitarists he would want to jam with; Chuck Berry, Duane Allman, Jimi, Albert King,

maybe Stevie RV for starters.

Could you imagine a band where Prince was the rythym player and SRV was the lead???

soladeo1 said:

Could you imagine a band where Prince was the rythym player and SRV was the lead???

Yes. Prince, though??

I heard SRV was a great rythym player too.

databank said:

Obviously, you know absolutely nothing about heaven, and that's all I have to say on that.

Well, this thread went well.

RJOrion said:

Hendrix

With the exception of Jesse, he didn't challenge any guitar players when he was here on earth..so why would he challenge any other guitarists in the afterworld?

RJOrion said:

databank said:

I think he just meant theorically, as in "would + if". It's just a game.

i dont know... people all over the world take certain beliefs literally, but you might be right...

Believing in a better afterworld is one thing. Believing in an afterworld where people play the guitar is something else entirely

Why not after all, you'll tell me? IDK. It just sounds a little naive to me. Too litteral precisely.

I don't know about challenging them, but I'd like to see him play the bass, with Jimi Hendrix on guitar and Miles Davis on keyboards.

Margot said:

soladeo1 said:

Could you imagine a band where Prince was the rythym player and SRV was the lead???

Yes. Prince, though??

I heard SRV was a great rythym player too.

U wanna say that Ray Vaugh was better than Prince on lead?

Cause Stevie played the same recycled blues patterns like most of blues guitar players.what made him different is he played it fast in a shuffle kind of manner and he was great at that.but he never strayed away from blues scale.

Prince explored the instrumenent and very often played dorian,lydian,mixolydian,phrigian modes,mixed with chromatics.Stevie Ray never touched any of that,and 4 me the best Steve Ray Vaughn is the stuff he played on David Bowie's Let's Dance album cause he was out of his blues element .

It's unfair to compare SRV's playing style to P's playing style...They were two totally different players playing two totally different styles of music. Only thing they may have had in common was that they were both popular in the 80's...Comparing them would be like comparing Robert Cray to Charlie Singleton (Cameo)...they're both great, but they're totally different in their styles of music they play.

olb99 said:

I don't know about challenging them, but I'd like to see him play the bass, with Jimi Hendrix on guitar and Miles Davis on keyboards.

Miles was any good on keys?

SPYZFAN1 said:

It's unfair to compare SRV's playing style to P's playing style...They were two totally different players playing two totally different styles of music. Only thing they may have had in common was that they were both popular in the 80's...Comparing them would be like comparing Robert Cray to Charlie Singleton (Cameo)...they're both great, but they're totally different in their styles of music they play.

I agree that they are very different,but if we take Hendrix as the meeting point ,both Stevie and Prince were influenced by Jimi Hendrix than we can observe the following:

Jimi was searching for new sounds,new ways of playing,yes he was influenced by Buddy Guy,

Albert King but he was not in a comfort zone.

Stevie Ray was a great student of blues,what he added is a stylistic change

in terms that he made his sound and that was his unique way

of playing fast blues shuffles.So he was great

at what he did,but he was just recycling,he was always playing the same traditional blues patterns.

Prince as a guitarist was searching .He was influenced by Santana,Hendrix ...but he made it his own.

And contrary to rumors Prince made a brand new guitar style .It's 1982-1983 period where he combined all kind of crazy elements of funk,rock,punk,noise in his style .examples Lady Cab Driver Solo,Drive Me Wild extended 12 inch version,Automatic studio version Automatic 1999 delux version,Lady Cab Driver 29th nov 1982 Detroit (the second solo when they go into b section cause it's Dez doing the first solo. And the most famous ,the intro to When Doves Cry.The problem was that style was not commercial,it was too weird and too out there.It was more closer to the anti guitar hero side of the things.After that Prince went into conventional conception of what a guitar hero should play,so he played clean precise...but always searching for different notes,different licks and Prince's music theory was vast compared to Stevie. Prince used a lot of modes,like i mentioned in previous post but people who don't know modes think he plays pentatonic.lol.he used a lot of cool chromatic licks. So when somebody say Steve Ray Vaughn is better guitar player i just think better at what? better at being more conservative and conventional.in his category is Clapton a good guitar player but always into his comfort zone recycling his heroes,and John Mayer.Clapton Stevie and Mayer in terms of aprouch to guitar.

Good points, but maybe SRV was cool with where he was at guitar wise. He kicked ass on Jimi's "Voodoo Chile", but he also played great quiet, jazzy/Wes style stuff on "Rivera Paradise". You also have to remember that SRV pretty much brought blues to the forefront in the "hair metal/synth/drum machine" era of the 80's....His style of music didn't need a bunch of exotic, speedy scales..it wasn't "Return To Forever".....I wasn't a huge fan of his, but I dug and respected what he could do....His style and lead playing worked for his music...That 1982-83 guitar style you mention about P?..It may have been intentional because he didn't want to get hit with the "sounds like Hendrix" stereotype (black dude playing an electric guitar) while trying to create his own thing.....Yeah, he got hit with it during the "P.R." era, but maybe that's why he abandoned that and moved on to the JB/ slick soul revue style for "Parade"....he had his 1984/85 guitar hero moment and was ready to do something new......The "better guitarist" thing is subjective, individual and personal.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Good points, but maybe SRV was cool with where he was at guitar wise. He kicked ass on Jimi's "Voodoo Chile", but he also played great quiet, jazzy/Wes style stuff on "Rivera Paradise". You also have to remember that SRV pretty much brought blues to the forefront in the "hair metal/synth/drum machine" era of the 80's....His style of music didn't need a bunch of exotic, speedy scales..it wasn't "Return To Forever".....I wasn't a huge fan of his, but I dug and respected what he could do....His style and lead playing worked for his music...That 1982-83 guitar style you mention about P?..It may have been intentional because he didn't want to get hit with the "sounds like Hendrix" stereotype (black dude playing an electric guitar) while trying to create his own thing.....Yeah, he got hit with it during the "P.R." era, but maybe that's why he abandoned that and moved on to the JB/ slick soul revue style for "Parade"....he had his 1984/85 guitar hero moment and was ready to do something new......The "better guitarist" thing is subjective, individual and personal.

i agree the best is always about personal taste

..exactly!

databank said:

olb99 said:

I don't know about challenging them, but I'd like to see him play the bass, with Jimi Hendrix on guitar and Miles Davis on keyboards.

Miles was any good on keys?

Good or frightening, depending on your taste: https://www.youtube.com/w...enK0gPEuzI

olb99 said:

databank said:

Miles was any good on keys?

Good or frightening, depending on your taste: https://www.youtube.com/w...enK0gPEuzI

u didn't give a good example,so yes Miles was very good on piano,keys,played a lot of oberhaim synths in the 80s studio and live

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If heaven would excist, I would prefer to be in hell, where all the great rock stars and guitar players would heat up the fire with bruning sound and deafening solo's.

And Prince would beat them all.

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If Heaven is Paradise doesn't that mean that everyone is great at whatever they want? It's Paradise. You can play guitar like Prince. Throw hoops like Michael Jordan.

Vannormal said:

There would be people in heaven who have been there for thousands of years. I'm sure many of them took up the guitar and exceeded the skill of anyone to ever live on Earth. They will quickly humbly any feeble Earth guitarist who turns up at the pearly gates with a challenge.

databank said: