Ok, we have lived with this amazing set for over 5 weeks. I'll get out of the way that I believe this is an incredible set that I never imagined I'd get. Yes, I think including Shepp Pettibone's Strange Relationship, was a waste of space but man oh man is this good. I have spent every weekend discovering more and more of the set and I will tell you - I have not given the Live album much of a spin and have barely watched the DVD.

I wanted to now, with a sober view, give my thoughts on the remaster.

First, this is quite possiby the greatest improvement i've ever heard from any remaster. Of course 24 BIT and SACD versions of other albums have been superb but usually, the original 16 Bit cd was pretty good too. Examples would be Cowboy Junkies Trinity Sessions. The original was a staple in my collection when I wanted to listen to a great recording. The SACD actually was a lot better...Aja by Steely Dan was already great. The Dire Straits stuff, super from the start. None however, started off sas bad as Sign did. So, this is the most amazing improvement sound quality I've ever heard.

The bass - to me this was low hanging fruit. Initially I was surprised that some actually complainted about too much bass on 'It' or 'Dorothy Parker'. If i'm going to be picky, ok,, maybe it has that slight extra. However, when I put on 'Shockadelica' or 'la la la'...i'm smiling ear to ear as the extra bass totally 'fixes' what was prev a dimension missed. There is so much low level stuff happening in La la la....so much! "Shockadelica' benefits greatly from the full round out in low level. The impact is just awesome...I was amazed.

I'm over the moon with what they pulled off here..

JoeyCococo said:

Ok, we have lived with this amazing set for over 5 weeks. I'll get out of the way that I believe this is an incredible set that I never imagined I'd get. Yes, I think including Shepp Pettibone's Strange Relationship, was a waste of space but man oh man is this good. I have spent every weekend discovering more and more of the set and I will tell you - I have not given the Live album much of a spin and have barely watched the DVD.

I wanted to now, with a sober view, give my thoughts on the remaster.

First, this is quite possiby the greatest improvement i've ever heard from any remaster. Of course 24 BIT and SACD versions of other albums have been superb but usually, the original 16 Bit cd was pretty good too. Examples would be Cowboy Junkies Trinity Sessions. The original was a staple in my collection when I wanted to listen to a great recording. The SACD actually was a lot better...Aja by Steely Dan was already great. The Dire Straits stuff, super from the start. None however, started off sas bad as Sign did. So, this is the most amazing improvement sound quality I've ever heard.

The bass - to me this was low hanging fruit. Initially I was surprised that some actually complainted about too much bass on 'It' or 'Dorothy Parker'. If i'm going to be picky, ok,, maybe it has that slight extra. However, when I put on 'Shockadelica' or 'la la la'...i'm smiling ear to ear as the extra bass totally 'fixes' what was prev a dimension missed. There is so much low level stuff happening in La la la....so much! "Shockadelica' benefits greatly from the full round out in low level. The impact is just awesome...I was amazed.

I'm over the moon with what they pulled off here..

I hope someone with a technical backround in sound can explain...how on earth did they squeeze so much more detail out of the vocal tracks? I'd love to know..

tx

RODSERLING said:

Frankly, I lost my CD copy of SOTT years ago, but I listened to it like hundred times. The sound was "low", but you just had to level it up lol. . I can't hear any improvement on the new remaster, that I listened to o ly one time. I can't say " Oh yeah I never heard that part before, never heard that piano notes on the background, etc. ". Nothing. I can't even say there is more bass in it. . I heard some things on the 1999 remaster ( even if 1999 and LRC still sounded " Compressed". . And I highly doubt there is any improvement on the B-sides at all. I don't think they wasted time and money to rework on the tapes of Lalala, Schokodelica and the awful remixes of Hot Thing lol. That is science-fiction to me.

Yeah, other than it being a bit louder I don't hear much different. Fans go overboard analysing remasters. Lets face it, they put the bonus discs on there because, without it, it'd be a meaningless product.

Not sure how to start all of my comment, but first off, i mainly listen to music in the automobile.

For over a decade i was listening through an ipod hooked up to a car stereo.

About 8 months ago, i received a new company car with a "basic" sound system.

WOW!!!

What a difference!

i haven't even put these "new" songs on the pod to check them out.

i'm still running through the '1999' stuff, which is really amazing!

I find myself taking the WAY-LONG-WAY home most of the time

I think an A/B comparison is in order for my ears song to song to really comment. But I do appreciate the more rounded and full bass tones on many of the tracks. Who knew that "She Wants a Place in Heaven" would have subwoofer bass stronger than "Housequake"?

For real.

The remastered edition to my ears certainly has brought out more nuances in the vocals and the bass is definately much more pronounced. Yes, I own the original cd version (with it's rather dull sound overall) and you do have to turn it up louder than a more recent release but there's so much more coming out from the background on the remastered version.

I'll say it again...

Who knew that "She Wants a Place in Heaven" would have subwoofer bass stronger than "Housequake"?



Tis true.

ufoclub said:

I think an A/B comparison is in order for my ears song to song to really comment. But I do appreciate the more rounded and full bass tones on many of the tracks. Who knew that "She Wants a Place in Heaven" would have subwoofer bass stronger than "Housequake"?

For real.

Funny, I thought this too. This is another example, like Dorothy and It, where the bass seems to be a little more than may have been intended. I really hesitate to say this b/c I also do feel the estate has been very careful not to take any liberties. The sub woofer sort of shocked me on A Place In Heavan..not just b/c it stuck out, but b/c I don't know of Prince using a sub like this...almost ever.

As Kingricefan said, the subtle improvements and clarity of the vocals is just amazing. Amazing. Housequake benefits greatly in that I can hear his deep voice backgrounds much better. Forever In MY Life...wow..the backgrounds are so so clear.....the 'hummming' is there...totally absent previously or so lacking in clarity that it made no impression. This was another where I thought they may have boosted the backgrounds ever so slightly...but again, I am not making any accusations. if I was Your Girlfriend is a diff listen...that background ominous synth...is more ominous. It's just there setting a that peculiar mood. The vocals are so much more clear...can hear so deeply into this version.

Supreme job..

This may be treading familiar ground as on other threads. I think the recording quality song to song is uneven even on the original and so I think that follows onto the remaster. I hear differences on the remaster and I do not hear differences onthe remaster.

Some tracks sound better, some sound like the original.

nayroo2002 said:

Not sure how to start all of my comment, but first off, i mainly listen to music in the automobile.

For over a decade i was listening through an ipod hooked up to a car stereo.

About 8 months ago, i received a new company car with a "basic" sound system.

WOW!!!

What a difference!

i haven't even put these "new" songs on the pod to check them out.

i'm still running through the '1999' stuff, which is really amazing!

I find myself taking the WAY-LONG-WAY home most of the time

Milty2 said:

This may be treading familiar ground as on other threads. I think the recording quality song to song is uneven even on the original and so I think that follows onto the remaster. I hear differences on the remaster and I do not hear differences onthe remaster.

Some tracks sound better, some sound like the original.

Yeah, Prince recorded everywhere so i have also noticed some inconsistencies...but overall, kicks serious butt

ufoclub said:

slyjackson said:

ufoclub said:

I'll say it again...

Who knew that "She Wants a Place in Heaven" would have subwoofer bass stronger than "Housequake"?



Tis true.

No one would know as that song doesn’t exist at all, it does exist however a song called “A Place In Heaven”

very sly...

nayroo2002 said:

Not sure how to start all of my comment, but first off, i mainly listen to music in the automobile.

For over a decade i was listening through an ipod hooked up to a car stereo.

About 8 months ago, i received a new company car with a "basic" sound system.

WOW!!!

What a difference!

i haven't even put these "new" songs on the pod to check them out.

i'm still running through the '1999' stuff, which is really amazing!

I find myself taking the WAY-LONG-WAY home most of the time

I listen to music mainly in my car and while I'm working.

I have a Prince-only USB stick that stays in my car. It has all of the officially-released music, but then also bootlegs, concerts and associated artists. It stays plugged into the car. I contemplated painting it purple.

JoeyCococo said:

JoeyCococo said:

JoeyCococo said:

slyjackson said:

ufoclub said: No one would know as that song doesn’t exist at all, it does exist however a song called “A Place In Heaven”

very sly...

Okay, okay... I'm used to the old bootleg titles from the 80's....

But does any song on the entire multidisc set, bang the bass as hard,lol, as "Place In Heaven"?

[Edited 11/10/20 10:53am]

ufoclub said:

JoeyCococo said:

very sly...

Okay, okay... I'm used to the old bootleg titles from the 80's....

But does any song on the entire multidisc set, bang the bass as hard,lol, as "Place In Heaven"?

[Edited 11/10/20 10:53am]

no....not at all. That's a great example of why I started the thread. The bass seemed overboard on this song. Less with Ballad and It....I love it though...Absolutely love it.