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Reply #120 posted 11/09/20 4:58pm

kingricefan

My Name Is Prince- would have been a great song without Tony M.'s rapping.

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Reply #121 posted 11/09/20 5:51pm

alphastreet

The chaos and disorder album disappointed me. I expected funk-rock but the funk was missing, or maybe just not as good as his 80s output
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Reply #122 posted 11/09/20 5:52pm

alphastreet

kingricefan said:

My Name Is Prince- would have been a great song without Tony M.'s rapping.



Love that song! My favourite of his in the 90s
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Reply #123 posted 11/10/20 9:33am

slyjackson

kingricefan said:

My Name Is Prince- would have been a great song without Tony M.'s rapping.


That song is atrocious with or without it
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Reply #124 posted 11/10/20 12:05pm

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Darth voice on Rainbow Children. Sonically, it is in my top 5 of his.

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"

"Who's the foo singing will it's would"
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Reply #125 posted 11/10/20 4:29pm

TheKid94

ColinFaconskin said:

Pope. The chorus is genius, it could almost be as good as 7 but the Bernie samples ruin it for me.

Awh damn the Bernie sample makes that song for me. Also his stand up from where that "I aint scared of you muthafuka's" is so goood lol RIP Bernie

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Reply #126 posted 11/11/20 5:05am

TraSoul82

lurker316 said:



TraSoul82 said:


Strollin' (album version). It's difficult to take those drums seriously. While I understand that playful randomness can be used to express creative intent, the concept falls flat for me on this endeavor. Live versions of this song with tight drumming are delightful.


The drums are my favorite part of that song.




I forgive you.
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Reply #127 posted 11/11/20 10:04am

TrivialPursuit

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Sooooometimes, the drums on the extended "God (Instrumental)" get really annoying and bangs around a lot. Prince did a lot of drum breaks like that. "Alexa De Paris (extended mix)" comes to mind, the live version of "America."

Speaking of "God," that squawking on the vocal. HORRID. I don't know what he says, but I hear "BLOOOP. AH. OHHHHH AH! Aaaah ah ah ha ha ha ha ha oooooooohhhhhhhhhhaaaaahhhh..." Dude, STFU.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #128 posted 11/11/20 10:30am

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Tell me how U want 2 B done is just a echo (more remix I guess, but it feels as an echo) of The Continental. It's the same thing during it's 3.15 run. What baffels me is that P would release that as a new song.

Oh well. Rant over. biggrin

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Reply #129 posted 11/11/20 1:51pm

SoulAlive

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FunkiestOne said:

Eye Hate You - it goes off into that "courtroom" part in the middle and just ruins a great song.

That's why I prefer the radio edit over the album version.

I love the courtroom part biggrin that was really bold and unique

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Reply #130 posted 11/11/20 11:31pm

TrivialPursuit

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Gemeni said:

Tell me how U want 2 B done is just a echo (more remix I guess, but it feels as an echo) of The Continental. It's the same thing during it's 3.15 run. What baffels me is that P would release that as a new song.


Yeah, I don't get this either. It was out in 1992, then 1995, then on CB. Waste of space on a not-even-filled-up-anyway-CD.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #131 posted 11/11/20 11:41pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #132 posted 11/12/20 2:10pm

TraSoul82

Song: "Soul Psychodelicide"
Element: repetitiveness

When the song begins, I have the stank face. By the time it ends, I'm left with an introverted "this is it" look.
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Reply #133 posted 11/12/20 2:17pm

alphastreet

Some of the music on the b sides is great but the lyrics are too sexual for my taste, guess I have to be in the right mood for them
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Reply #134 posted 11/12/20 4:42pm

mtlfan

I love this thread because it calls attention to so many of the risks Prince took with his music, and how that leads to polarizing reception (ie. "one man's trash is another man's treasure"). One thing you can't accuse Prince of is being "bath rock" - tepid, always AOR friendly music you can just play in an office building and ignore. Frank Zappa had a term - "the eyebrows." He was always looking for unconventional, sometimes downright interruptive, even painful ways of challenging the listener so his songs wouldn't be bland. In other words, things that would raise the eyebrows. A lot of what is being mentioned in this thread are examples of Prince deploying the eyebrows: the pitch adjusting on The Rainbow Children, the howling, the monologues and dialogues, the orgasm noises, etc. An example: I don't like the flanged snare drum on "Train," I think it drowns the song in that one repetitive production idea... but it wasn't something he used elsewhere, and I recognize it's what sets the song's production apart.

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Reply #135 posted 11/13/20 6:11am

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I believe most of the posts have understood the intent of this thread, but in a few cases I get the impression that the person is listing a song they generally dislike and then descirbing the specific element that makes them dislike it. That's not really what this thread this about.

I'm looking for songs that you feel conflicted about. Half of the song you absolutely love, but half of the song you hate. For example, "I think such-and-such song has one of the funkiest beats Prince ever came up with. I could listen to it all day. But its chorus is absoltely terrible. I cringe and get embarassed by it."


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Reply #136 posted 11/13/20 6:34am

funkbabyandthe
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'And we will smoke them all'

Smoke? Prince is a cold hearted killer with a gun?

Lol
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Reply #137 posted 11/13/20 6:35am

funkbabyandthe
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'Come n get your cum on'

Uh what?

One kiss at a time is quite nice otherwise.
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Reply #138 posted 11/13/20 6:36am

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P. Control. The word "pussy" in the chorus and end of each verse. This song could've been a hit, if it was called "She's in Control" or something like that. Keep the same song, but wherever he says "pussy control" (chorus, end of each verse), replace it with "she's in control." Suddenly, the song becomes the female empowerment jam that he was trying to create.




That song can only be saved if the verses are deleted entirely
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Reply #139 posted 11/13/20 7:27am

67minutes

TraSoul82 said:

Song: "Soul Psychodelicide" Element: repetitiveness When the song begins, I have the stank face. By the time it ends, I'm left with an introverted "this is it" look.

lol

"All you do is suck up food and heat"
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Reply #140 posted 11/13/20 8:06am

Dazza

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Soul Sanctuary - the screechy singing at the end ruins it

Green virgin teenager, or filthy rich yuppy. Pussy cat pussy cat, where for out thou puppy
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Reply #141 posted 11/13/20 5:35pm

woogiebear

"Life Of The Party", from the "Musicology" CD. The original Groove is BOOOOOOORIIIIIING!!! LIVE though, They played James Brown's "Hot Pants" over it. Funky like Chittlin' Juice!!! Wish it was released THAT WAY!!!

cool cool cool

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Reply #142 posted 11/13/20 6:15pm

TraSoul82

67minutes said:



TraSoul82 said:


Song: "Soul Psychodelicide" Element: repetitiveness When the song begins, I have the stank face. By the time it ends, I'm left with an introverted "this is it" look.


lol



I'm only now realizing I could have listed the element as "repetition" to bring the reference full-circle.
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Reply #143 posted 11/16/20 4:14pm

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Earlier in this thread I noted that, as a general rule, I hate the sound effects Prince put into his songs, but I surprisingly don't mind the laser beams in the Breakdown. After some reflection I think I can explain why...

The thing I hate about most of Prince's sound effects is that they're too literal and lack any subtlty. If he mentioned an object or actiity in the lyrics, he'd play a sound effect of that object/activity. For instance, he sings about time then you hear the ticking of a clock. TMBGITW is maybe the worst offender.

Perhaps the fact that the lasers in the Breakdown are total random and make zero sense is what makes them acceptable to me. They're just a weird, interesting sound, rather than a too-obvious illustration of his intention.



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Reply #144 posted 11/16/20 4:41pm

eyewishuheaven

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lurker316 said:


Earlier in this thread I noted that, as a general rule, I hate the sound effects Prince put into his songs, but I surprisingly don't mind the laser beams in the Breakdown. After some reflection I think I can explain why...

The thing I hated about most of Prince's sound effects is that they were too literal and lacked any subtlty. If he mentioned an object or actiity in the lyrics, he'd play a sound effect of that object/activity. TMBGITW being the worst offender.

Perhaps the fact that the lasers in the Breakdown are total random and make zero sense is what makes them acceptable to me. They're just a weird, interesting sound, rather than a too-obvious illustration of his intention.




I'm still convinced they're an allusion to (or at least inspired by) the final number in the 1979 film All That Jazz.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #145 posted 11/16/20 11:29pm

TrivialPursuit

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lurker316 said:


Earlier in this thread I noted that, as a general rule, I hate the sound effects Prince put into his songs, but I surprisingly don't mind the laser beams in the Breakdown. After some reflection I think I can explain why...

The thing I hate about most of Prince's sound effects is that they're too literal and lack any subtlty. If he mentioned an object or actiity in the lyrics, he'd play a sound effect of that object/activity. For instance, he sings about time then you hear the ticking of a clock. TMBGITW is maybe the worst offender.

Perhaps the fact that the lasers in the Breakdown are total random and make zero sense is what makes them acceptable to me. They're just a weird, interesting sound, rather than a too-obvious illustration of his intention.



I don't mind the clock. The song is rearranged with a lot of starts and stops, etc., so that doesn't bug me.

I've never listened to "Breakdown" enough to know there were lasers in it. Honestly, I wouldn't know it if I heard it. I'm just unimpressed with his latter material after 20Ten.

But talking about f/x, if you hate them then I would imagine "Chaos and Disorder" is one of the greatest offenders. That one is chucked full of them.

Check check...rolling.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #146 posted 11/17/20 5:25am

gandorb

RJOrion said:

the recital of "the lords prayer" on "Controversy"

I am reading this as I am waking up, and I honestly first read it as "the rectal parts of the lord's prayer". Talk about Controversy! lol

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Reply #147 posted 11/17/20 1:16pm

woogiebear

looby said:

The song Willing and Able. The rap part just ruins the song for me, and I just think the rapping is so bad. Prince should have really stayed out of the whole rapping thing, because he was not good at it, and neither was Tony M (at least that is what I think his name was, correct me if I wrong lol)

Funny thing IS......Prince was better at it than BOTH Tony M & TC Ellis!!!

cool cool

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Reply #148 posted 11/17/20 1:19pm

woogiebear

RODSERLING said:

The howlings on Something in The Water are so cringe worthy that it ruins the song for me.

Prince's BEST SCREAMS EVER are in "Something In The Water......"!!!

cool cool

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Reply #149 posted 11/17/20 3:04pm

AZStreet

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woogiebear said:

RODSERLING said:

The howlings on Something in The Water are so cringe worthy that it ruins the song for me.

Prince's BEST SCREAMS EVER are in "Something In The Water......"!!!

cool cool

I agree. Something in the Water is his best scream

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"

"Who's the foo singing will it's would"
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