It is about a prostitute, ie, a waitress on the promenade/street at night getting a lot of tips.

donnyenglish said:

LoveGalore said:

donnyenglish said:

It is about a prostitute, ie, a waitress on the promenade/street at night getting a lot of tips.

So he hires the prostitute but just wants to talk to her about his problems?

that actually happens ALOT more than you would think...

LoveGalore said:

donnyenglish said:

It is about a prostitute, ie, a waitress on the promenade/street at night getting a lot of tips.

So he hires the prostitute but just wants to talk to her about his problems?

Prince was rumored to do this. Whether true or just empty gossip we won't know but it is interesting he writes a similar scenario.

RJOrion said:

I read that he did not really know who Dorthy Parker was but he liked the name...



EDIT

it's about 4 mins 5 with horns!

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Hold up - if you're saying she's a prostitute then what is the line about 'I ain't too hungry, let me have a fruit coctail' all about? Some sort of horrible euphemism?!

lavendardrummachine said:

LoveGalore said:

donnyenglish said: So he hires the prostitute but just wants to talk to her about his problems?

Prince was rumored to do this. Whether true or just empty gossip we won't know but it is interesting he writes a similar scenario.

Says who?

LittleBigFan said:

Hold up - if you're saying she's a prostitute then what is the line about 'I ain't too hungry, let me have a fruit coctail' all about? Some sort of horrible euphemism?!

Following along with the prostitution theory then it's a euphemism for instead of having full on sex that he wants something such as oral sex.

LittleBigFan said:

Hold up - if you're saying she's a prostitute then what is the line about 'I ain't too hungry, let me have a fruit coctail' all about? Some sort of horrible euphemism?!

If we follow the waitress = prostitute metaphor, one possible interpretation that I just was thinking of is maybe it means he isn't hungry (wanting sex) so he will just have a fruit cocktail (wants to just talk to her)

LoveGalore said:

My pants were wet, they came off
But she didn't see the movie 'cause she hadn't read the book first
Instead she pretended she was blind
An affliction brought on by a witch's curse

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I take this to mean that nothing happened, because they were strangers.

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The long-held story about this one is that it came from a dream Prince had.

SquirrelMeat said:

lavendardrummachine said:

Prince was rumored to do this. Whether true or just empty gossip we won't know but it is interesting he writes a similar scenario.

Says who?

During the panel in 2013 for promoting Toure's book which included Alan Leeds it was stated that Prince would invite girls back with him and just want to give them a bath or brush their hair, etc. Not have sex with them. He also loved to watch them put on their makeup - maybe for tips?? I think either Anna Garcia or Carmen E. stated the make-up thing.

SquirrelMeat said:

Says who?

The women?

It's not such a shocker given the lyrics in his songs like paying Cindy C the usual fee. The Twins also had a professional (and likely nonsexual) relationship to accompany him places off stage, and keep him company. Not much difference.

a dream under the influence of joni. that sott book says it was a dream

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

LoveGalore said:

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

a dream under the influence of joni. that sott book says it was a dream

Yes, I totally understand it is a dream. But the dream is telling a story and it means something.

i like your interpretation. dorothy means 'gift from god'. parker means 'park keeper' and it makes me think of paisley park, where i think of prince being the keeper. the fruit cocktail could be spiritual fruit. i think dorothy is joni, who prince wants to be like, so on some level she could be camille doing her chameleon thing in this dream. maybe prince talking to his twin. this song is deep, i would lean towards a mystical meaning personally. the bath makes me think of confession, he felt much better, so he went back to the violent room, the world. well, i'll think about it more

lavendardrummachine said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Says who?

The women?

It's not such a shocker given the lyrics in his songs like paying Cindy C the usual fee. The Twins also had a professional (and likely nonsexual) relationship to accompany him places off stage, and keep him company. Not much difference.

Cindy C was a song Prince wrote about her, because she blew him off at a club when he tried to approach her and dance with her. He was pissed.

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said:

LoveGalore said:

PURplEMaPLeSyrup said: Yes, I totally understand it is a dream. But the dream is telling a story and it means something.

i like your interpretation. dorothy means 'gift from god'. parker means 'park keeper' and it makes me think of paisley park, where i think of prince being the keeper. the fruit cocktail could be spiritual fruit. i think dorothy is joni, who prince wants to be like, so on some level she could be camille doing her chameleon thing in this dream. maybe prince talking to his twin. this song is deep, i would lean towards a mystical meaning personally. the bath makes me think of confession, he felt much better, so he went back to the violent room, the world. well, i'll think about it more

Pretty good. I like that interpretation. I guess Dorothy could represent Joni, although he has Dorothy telling him "Help Me" is her favorite song when it comes on the radio. I guess that could still be "Joni" telling him it's her favorite song. Dreams are tricky, and often they are a bizarre mish-mash of things that may not even be related. Although, this one is definitely telling a story - whether it's a figurative or literal one is the question.

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I do think Prince's obsession with baths was a "spiritual cleansing"/confessional thing. He included them in his lyrics, performances (Purple Rain tour), and videos (WDC and the Empty Room video which was never released), so it was certainly had meaning to him.

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It's a story. But if you want to tie it in to reality, I'd say it's about justifying fucking around on his steady.

NouveauDance said:

It's a story. But if you want to tie it in to reality, I'd say it's about justifying fucking around on his steady.

Hmmm I like that idea as well. Yep, and the baths are his way of "cleansing" himself of the "dirty deed".

violetcrush said:

Cindy C was a song Prince wrote about her, because she blew him off at a club when he tried to approach her and dance with her. He was pissed.

Right, but what's the fee?

Not the first song he writes about transactional sex/intimacy.

lavendardrummachine said:

NouveauDance said:

violetcrush said:

Dreams are tricky, and often they are a bizarre mish-mash of things that may not even be related. Although, this one is definitely telling a story - whether it's a figurative or literal one is the question.

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I do think Prince's obsession with baths was a "spiritual cleansing"/confessional thing. He included them in his lyrics, performances (Purple Rain tour), and videos (WDC and the Empty Room video which was never released), so it was certainly had meaning to him.

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yeah, when2rinlove -- come bathe with me, maybe the holy river too, interesting, thanks!

or maybe he just ate some fruit and listened to joni, and took a bath before he slept and dreamt this, lol

LoveGalore said:

lavendardrummachine said:

Right, but what's the fee?

Not the first song he writes about transactional sex/intimacy.

I think he's being flippant with that line. Putting her down.

Yes, exactly. He a bit nasty toward her in the song, but it was mainly him stating how much he wants to do her, and asking why she won't be with him.

I think it's literal, I love that linea about her pretending she was blind because of a witch's curse. So she didn't see him naked out of respect?

When he says that she didn't see the movie because she hadn't read the book first he means she didn't lokk her dick because there was no relationship between them so she instead pretends she's blind because of a witch's curse, no that she really said that, more like it was his whimsical and creative way to tell her side of the story or his interpreatation.

slyjackson said: