Eye hate u is one of his best ballads and one of his great spiteful attacks but did it need that kind of guitar whiplash?
I'm going to say no.

I'm going to say, yes. Awesome song, awesome guitar.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Prince was a great guitarist obv He played many great solos However there are times when I wasn't totally sure the song needed one I'm all in favour of disrupting a style or genre of a song, but still not totally sure some axe murdering is what Lady cab driver needed Eye hate u is one of his best ballads and one of his great spiteful attacks but did it need that kind of guitar whiplash? I'm going to say no.

Are you kidding?????

Lady Cab Driver finally comes fully to life when the guitar solo kicks in. And as for Eye Hate U? I won't listen to any edit that DOESN'T have that guitar solo in. That solo absolutely is the emotional culmination of the song, where all the frustration, confusion and anger he's been describing come surging forward in a fit combined aural ecstasy and agony!

It's the perfect musical moment to express the way that hate and love can be so intermingled in the way we feel about some people, and how messy and aggravated that can be.

The song is incomplete without the guitar solo. In fact I don't think there are any songs where I thought, 'damn, I wish there wasn't a guitar solo here'.....

I have a Vice versa thing with the song Guitar which lacks the Guitar

So Far, So Pleased

The "L.C.D" guitar solo totally fits the vibe and tension of the song. One of my favorites by him..totally raw.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Prince was a great guitarist obv He played many great solos However there are times when I wasn't totally sure the song needed one I'm all in favour of disrupting a style or genre of a song, but still not totally sure some axe murdering is what Lady cab driver needed Eye hate u is one of his best ballads and one of his great spiteful attacks but did it need that kind of guitar whiplash? I'm going to say no.

"no" is wrong,IMHO.

Crucial

The sax solo that Leeds put on it fit the song so much better than a guitar solo.

Tbh I always thought he had great instinct for tastefully matching the part to the song, wracking my brains now I can't think of anything that stood out as a complete mismatch.

dualboot said:

I have a Vice versa thing with the song Guitar which lacks the Guitar

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that early version of guitar with the around the world in a day vibe is the best version I know of that track. It is so much easier on the ears than the "real" version.

Strive said:

Crucial

The sax solo that Leeds put on it fit the song so much better than a guitar solo.

I would argue it's Leeds' finest moment on any Prince recording. It truly takes the song to the next emotional level.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Strive said:

Crucial

The sax solo that Leeds put on it fit the song so much better than a guitar solo.

I would argue it's Leeds' finest moment on any Prince recording. It truly takes the song to the next emotional level.

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Yep - what these two have said.

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I also love the ferocity of the guitar solo on I Hate U - for me, it suits the tone of that song perfectly.

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I quite liked the comment Susan Rogers made about Prince knowing he could throw out magnificent solos whenever he wanted to...he just chose when and where to put them, that was all. - That said, there is a bit of me that would have liked more reproduction of the kind of guitar playing we saw live. To my ears, too many Prince guitar solos feel like they are being restrained...or they are buried in the mix (see Annie Christian and most of Lovesexy, as examples) But that's just my personal preference.

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dualboot said:

I have a Vice versa thing with the song Guitar which lacks the Guitar

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The solo, you mean?

udo said:

dualboot said:

I have a Vice versa thing with the song Guitar which lacks the Guitar

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The solo, you mean?

the weird ending where you would expect a full-on guitar but overall the guitar is quite subdued in that song in Regards to being a title. But that is also Prince.

dualboot said:

I have a Vice versa thing with the song Guitar which lacks the Guitar

It certainly didn't lack guitar when he played it live. The version at the Dakota Jazz Club had a kick ass guitar solo. THe version at North Sea Jazz Fesitval in 2011 was great too.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Strive said:

Crucial

The sax solo that Leeds put on it fit the song so much better than a guitar solo.

I would argue it's Leeds' finest moment on any Prince recording. It truly takes the song to the next emotional level.

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THIS * 1000!

To me, the Saxaphone *makes* that song. Hearing the lead line played by the sax feels so fitting... And that 2 minute sax solo at the end is literally the most beautiful part of that song.

dualboot said:

I have a Vice versa thing with the song Guitar which lacks the Guitar

I noticed that the guitar solo portion of "Lady Cab Driver" is not unlike similar moments in "(There'll Never B) Another Like Me"

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Man I totally get where you're coming form with the solo in Eye Hate U being a real "whiplash", that's actually a great way to describe it really. But honestly I love it so much, it might actually be my favourite guitar solo in anything ever, just because of how much of a weird, intense climax it brings to what had previously been almost a kind of conventional 90s RnB love ballad. Feels like a real "consummation" of the repressed sexual desire within the song to me and for that reason there's something really quite fitting about it to me, even though it can seem to come a little out of the blue.

I dont think he ever did solo that dont fit the song but i do feel

that sometimes he believed in a first take aprouch to be captured

on a record and that leave us with sloppy solos like the one on The Word,So Far So Pleased,

solo on remix of This Could Be Us and a few others

I feel like the one at the end of Cosmic Day really doesn't fit the vibe of that song at all

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Man I totally get where you're coming form with the solo in Eye Hate U being a real "whiplash", that's actually a great way to describe it really. But honestly I love it so much, it might actually be my favourite guitar solo in anything ever, just because of how much of a weird, intense climax it brings to what had previously been almost a kind of conventional 90s RnB love ballad. Feels like a real "consummation" of the repressed sexual desire within the song to me and for that reason there's something really quite fitting about it to me, even though it can seem to come a little out of the blue.

Agree 100%. That solo is awesome ... intense but short and communicates the singer's contradictory emotions.

thebanishedone said:

I dont think he ever did solo that dont fit the song but i do feel

that sometimes he believed in a first take aprouch to be captured

on a record and that leave us with sloppy solos like the one on The Word,So Far So Pleased,

solo on remix of This Could Be Us and a few others

these are honestly three of my favorite guitar solos.

thebanishedone said:

I dont think he ever did solo that dont fit the song but i do feel

that sometimes he believed in a first take aprouch to be captured

on a record and that leave us with sloppy solos like the one on The Word,So Far So Pleased,

solo on remix of This Could Be Us and a few others

So Far So Pleased -- I agree. That solo kind of detracts from the song rather than add. There's something very generically 1970s or 80s rock about it.

This Could Be Us remix and The Word are both pretty cool, so I don't understand the complaint with those. They're not the greatest solos ever, but I like both of them. For The Word, I think of it as starting during the repeated choruses toward the end, instead of just the repeated one note. For TCBU remix, I only wish the solo was a little longer.

Btw, I love some of the solos we've been getting in the vault tracks recently.

I love the song but the only solo I don't quite hear fitting into the song is the solo in Baltimore. And the lyric "I think it's time to let the guitar sing" or whatever it is. It just doesn't makes sense in the context of the song.

controversy99 said:

thebanishedone said:

controversy99 said:

So Far So Pleased -- I agree. That solo kind of detracts from the song rather than add. There's something very generically 1970s or 80s rock about it.

This Could Be Us remix and The Word are both pretty cool, so I don't understand the complaint with those. They're not the greatest solos ever, but I like both of them. For The Word, I think of it as starting during the repeated choruses toward the end, instead of just the repeated one note. For TCBU remix, I only wish the solo was a little longer.

Btw, I love some of the solos we've been getting in the vault tracks recently.

Those solos are not baf but you can see Prince didn't invest a lot of effort in thoss

Interesting. What makes you say he didn't invest a lot of effort?