This really isn't that complicated.

Prince didn't have Paisley Park built as a house because he thought 'I'm rich now and I want my house to look like THIS!' ....He wasn't fucking crazy like Michael Jackson. He built Paisley Park as a work center where he would work and that could be hired out to others for work.... It was an office...

In the final years of his life, Prince lived at his office, literally. Yes, he lived there. And it may have been his home. But it wasn't a house.

It was an office complex and studios. It was still that even if Prince lived there.

Is this really that hard to understand?

laytonian said:

rogifan said:

I am curious where Prince lived after he came back to Minnesota in 2009. Did he really move in to PP then? I know he had homes in the Longacres neighborhood (across the street from Galpin property) but I thought those were where band members stayed.

He had Paisley specifically remodeled for his full-time residence at that time (besides occasional visits to the T&C beach house). The funny story behind that fuzzy round bed will come out some day

The three properties in Red Fox Circle across from the Galpin property were for band members/employees; he never lived in those. Kirk lived in one; the Weltons and others lived in another (with an empty lot in between which has recently been built on).

Neither did he move into the 8016 Dakota Ave home that the Huntsberry family lived in for years (although he paid to have it renovated). Who lived there after renovation? Unknown.

Soo, if he had it renovated for the direct purpose of being his house, it sounds like he made it his house....

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....... This is another one of those threads.....

kingricefan said:

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....... This is another one of those threads.....

Oh, a reprise? Faders coming up...

From the New Yorker:

"...in 1987, Prince built a sixty-five-thousand-square-foot, ten-million-dollar recording complex in Chanhassen, Minnesota, and called it Paisley Park. It was intended to be a commercial facility—Madonna, R.E.M., and Stevie Wonder all recorded there—but by the end of the nineteen-nineties it had stopped accepting outside clients. Eventually—no one can quite say when—Prince began living there. He wanted to establish a self-contained dominion, insulated from interference or judgment, where he enjoyed total control, and his life could bleed easily into his work.

On April 21, 2016, Prince collapsed and died in an elevator at Paisley Park. He had overdosed on the opioid fentanyl, which he’d been taking for chronic hip pain. He was fifty-seven, had sold around a hundred million albums, and did not leave a will. Shortly after hearing the news, Joel Weinshanker, a managing partner of Graceland Holdings (which runs Elvis Presley’s Graceland mansion, in Memphis), approached Bremer Trust, the bank tasked by a Minnesota court with administering Prince’s estate while his heirs were determined. Weinshanker wanted to make sure that Prince’s things were cared for. The bank agreed to let him visit. “The air-conditioning and the heating system weren’t working,” he told me. “There were leaks in places where you wouldn’t want leaks.”

"From the road, Paisley Park looks industrial, utilitarian, and cheerless, like a big-box store that has recently gone out of business. The exterior is covered in white aluminum panels. Inside, fleecy clouds have been painted on pale-blue walls. Sunlight comes through a glass pyramid over the lobby, but there are very few windows, which makes roaming through the complex disorienting, like spending all day inside a casino."

"Prince’s office and the so-called little kitchen—a small room just off the atrium, which contains a microwave, a gold-colored French press, a coffee table, and a couch where he watched Minnesota Timberwolves games—are mostly unchanged."

"Visitors do not have access to the living quarters at Paisley Park. The tour deals with this largely by misdirection, pointing guests toward details that might seem revealing—like the elegant slope of Prince’s handwriting—but nonetheless require additional extrapolation to feel meaningful. That interpretive work is generally left to the individual. When the guide pointed out a little circle of spilled wax on the carpet—Prince himself had spilled that wax!—I gazed at it longingly, hoping that something significant might be revealed.

Mostly, the tour made me feel lonesome. Absent its owner, Paisley Park is a husk. In 2004, when Prince briefly rented a mansion in Los Angeles from the basketball player Carlos Boozer, he redesigned the place, putting his logo on the front gate, painting pillars purple, installing all-black carpet, and adding a night club. (Boozer threatened to sue, but Prince restored the house before he moved out.) Yet Paisley Park feels anonymous. His studios are beautiful, but unremarkable. "

ufoclub said:

kingricefan said:

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....... This is another one of those threads.....

Oh, a reprise? Faders coming up...

From the New Yorker:

"...in 1987, Prince built a sixty-five-thousand-square-foot, ten-million-dollar recording complex in Chanhassen, Minnesota, and called it Paisley Park. It was intended to be a commercial facility—Madonna, R.E.M., and Stevie Wonder all recorded there—but by the end of the nineteen-nineties it had stopped accepting outside clients. Eventually—no one can quite say when—Prince began living there. He wanted to establish a self-contained dominion, insulated from interference or judgment, where he enjoyed total control, and his life could bleed easily into his work.

On April 21, 2016, Prince collapsed and died in an elevator at Paisley Park. He had overdosed on the opioid fentanyl, which he’d been taking for chronic hip pain. He was fifty-seven, had sold around a hundred million albums, and did not leave a will. Shortly after hearing the news, Joel Weinshanker, a managing partner of Graceland Holdings (which runs Elvis Presley’s Graceland mansion, in Memphis), approached Bremer Trust, the bank tasked by a Minnesota court with administering Prince’s estate while his heirs were determined. Weinshanker wanted to make sure that Prince’s things were cared for. The bank agreed to let him visit. “The air-conditioning and the heating system weren’t working,” he told me. “There were leaks in places where you wouldn’t want leaks.”

"From the road, Paisley Park looks industrial, utilitarian, and cheerless, like a big-box store that has recently gone out of business. The exterior is covered in white aluminum panels. Inside, fleecy clouds have been painted on pale-blue walls. Sunlight comes through a glass pyramid over the lobby, but there are very few windows, which makes roaming through the complex disorienting, like spending all day inside a casino."

"Prince’s office and the so-called little kitchen—a small room just off the atrium, which contains a microwave, a gold-colored French press, a coffee table, and a couch where he watched Minnesota Timberwolves games—are mostly unchanged."

"Visitors do not have access to the living quarters at Paisley Park. The tour deals with this largely by misdirection, pointing guests toward details that might seem revealing—like the elegant slope of Prince’s handwriting—but nonetheless require additional extrapolation to feel meaningful. That interpretive work is generally left to the individual. When the guide pointed out a little circle of spilled wax on the carpet—Prince himself had spilled that wax!—I gazed at it longingly, hoping that something significant might be revealed.

Mostly, the tour made me feel lonesome. Absent its owner, Paisley Park is a husk. In 2004, when Prince briefly rented a mansion in Los Angeles from the basketball player Carlos Boozer, he redesigned the place, putting his logo on the front gate, painting pillars purple, installing all-black carpet, and adding a night club. (Boozer threatened to sue, but Prince restored the house before he moved out.) Yet Paisley Park feels anonymous. His studios are beautiful, but unremarkable. "

When I went to Paisley Park a few years back I could definately feel Prince's spirit there. It's not a husk devoid of anything Prince-ly- his spirit is embedded in every inch of that place. After being there for 5 minutes I felt a deep sense of peace within. Sure, there was a sadness at first but that disappeared shortly after entering the building. Maybe shedding tears helped but I would like to believe that it was his spirit too. Our guide came up to us while we were having our 'moment' alone in the atrium and said "can you hear the doves? They've been silent all day long until now!'

kingricefan said:

. Our guide came up to us while we were having our 'moment' alone in the atrium and said "can you hear the doves? They've been silent all day long until now!'

"Can you hear the doves?" should be part of the scripted tour. Then the guide should spin around abruptly and speed float down the hall leaving you standing there, and never come back.

lavendardrummachine said:

ufoclub said:

It didn't really have "home" amenities. More like office complex amenities like a little kitchen. It was also available for rent when it was opened to commercial projects like Hollywood movies, musicians, other bands mixed there (Fine Young Cannibals, REM. It's a office/studio complex. Some act rehearsed tours there. All without Prince involvement. It had property managers. Prince had a little in apt in a section of it (he did marathon recording sessions for days in a row), and yes he did eventually close it and kept it to himself, but it's a studio building. He had actual houses he lived in nearby.

Here are stories about other bands renting out Paisley Park for work:
https://www.rhino.com/art...park-opens

1. R.E.M., “Shiny Happy People” – When R.E.M. initially arrived at Paisley Park, their intent was simply to mix the OUT OF TIME album, but they ended up doing a fair amount more, including recording Kate Pierson’s vocals on “Shiny Happy People,” adding melodica to “Endgame,” and having a snowball fight. They also had a couple of encounters with Prince, but they didn’t walk away as besties with His Royal Badness. “I passed Prince in the hallway one time, and I said, ‘Hello,’ and he looked at me and smiled at me,” recalled Mike Mills in a Rolling Stone piece on OUT OF TIME’s 25th anniversary. “Apparently that freaked everyone out because employees were not supposed to look at him or speak to him in any way.”

A funny episode from same time REM came to work at Prince's "house"...

So did Prince greet them at his front door? Did he say "You're more than welcome to use all the facilities!"
"Come on in, everything here is for your luxury"
"Four poster beds for each of you four band members."

REM guitarist Peter Buck recalls things slightly differently:

Another thing I remember is we said, ‘If Prince wanted to stop by, it’d be cool. We’re not going to bother him. ‘ And a couple of days later, one of his guys says, ‘Prince wants to know if you’ll be here Friday.’
And we’re like, ‘Yeah.’ ‘Are you planning to be here after 5 at night? ‘Cause we’re planning a party.’ We’re like, ‘We can be here.’ He’s like, ‘Prince wants you out by 5, ’cause he has a party.’ WE WEREN'T INVITED TO THE PARTY.
So … that was it. We got it. He wants to live his life and that’s fine. He’s still a genius, but it wasn’t a warm, welcoming feeling.

LMAO!

the only thing I don't recall is if Paisley Park is at the top of the road. (I don't remember it that way, it's all pretty flat there)

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Besides that, Prince created his big white mansion there.

So the property across the street from Paisley is now available for development. I wonder what will go there. It's right next to a daycare center.

Guaranteed there will be a Starbucks there!!!

rogifan said:

So the property across the street from Paisley is now available for development. I wonder what will go there. It's right next to a daycare center.

rogifan said:

So the property across the street from Paisley is now available for development. I wonder what will go there. It's right next to a daycare center.

Probably another neighborhood.

Maybe a Prince themed mall.

mediumdry said:

the only thing I don't recall is if Paisley Park is at the top of the road. (I don't remember it that way, it's all pretty flat there)

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Besides that, Prince created his big white mansion there.

Paisley Park isn't at the top of the road, but the Galpin Blvd house was. The big white mansion at the top of the road.

motherfunka said:

ufoclub said:

See the tweet I linked. They are ridiculing it's aesthetic.

People are thinking this was literally his house built to his specs as his domestic shelter for he and his family.

That is simply false. The building was not intended to be a house. It's an office building with a large atrium, caged storage areas, multi-stall restrooms, a soundstage, roll up warehouse style doors, reception desk...

This buliding is Paisley Park Studios. I have the brochure from back in the day! I've been there before the museum/tour conversion.

Sure he camped out there in a portion converted to be like an apt. But pop history needs to remember this as Paisley Park Studios, his studios.

This was not one of his mansions.

Totally agree with you!

Yeah, I get your point ufoclub and agree with you too.

lavendardrummachine said:

kingricefan said:

Our guide came up to us while we were having our 'moment' alone in the atrium and said "can you hear the doves? They've been silent all day long until now!'

"Can you hear the doves?" should be part of the scripted tour. Then the guide should spin around abruptly and speed float down the hall leaving you standing there, and never come back.

A disappeared urn? Doves that only show sign of life when people are present. Mysterious tour guides that drop wax on the floor
to, ya know, um manipulate people? wtf

Thsi thread should probably have a two month shelf life as well.

Milty2 said:

Thsi thread should probably have a two month shelf life as well.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Milty2 said:

Thsi thread should probably have a two month shelf life as well.

It's how I honestly feel when I see threads like this

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Locking up birds in a cage is sort of a crime.

Any bird, any animal.

A bird is not something you 'domesticate',

unless it's being conceived on a scientific level.

How the can one lock an animal up and call it Divinity?

Bash me !

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PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

So the property across the street from Paisley is now available for development. I wonder what will go there. It's right next to a daycare center.

Probably another neighborhood.

Maybe a Prince themed mall.

It's not that big of a plot. I'm surprised the estate didn't hang on to it. If for no other reason than so i couldn't be developed on.

WhisperingDandelions said:

laytonian said:

He had Paisley specifically remodeled for his full-time residence at that time (besides occasional visits to the T&C beach house). The funny story behind that fuzzy round bed will come out some day

The three properties in Red Fox Circle across from the Galpin property were for band members/employees; he never lived in those. Kirk lived in one; the Weltons and others lived in another (with an empty lot in between which has recently been built on).

Neither did he move into the 8016 Dakota Ave home that the Huntsberry family lived in for years (although he paid to have it renovated). Who lived there after renovation? Unknown.

Soo, if he had it renovated for the direct purpose of being his house, it sounds like he made it his house....

You got it. He may have regretted tearing down the Galpin house in 2006 but he obviously wouldn't want to live in one of the homes he owned in existing neighborhoods.

rogifan said:

So the property across the street from Paisley is now available for development. I wonder what will go there. It's right next to a daycare center.

A hotel would make total sense with additional parking (paid) and a walking bridge over Adubon for traffic safety.

kingricefan said:

Guaranteed there will be a Starbucks there!!!

rogifan said:

So the property across the street from Paisley is now available for development. I wonder what will go there. It's right next to a daycare center.

Never. Caribou Coffee.

laytonian said:

rogifan said:

So the property across the street from Paisley is now available for development. I wonder what will go there. It's right next to a daycare center.

A hotel would make total sense with additional parking (paid) and a walking bridge over Adubon for traffic safety.

Not sure if there's enough room but I hope it's that and not an office building. It might sit empty because the land right next to it has been for sale for ever.

The cage(s) are actually quite lrge, not like some tiny 1 foot square/tall thing that is used for parakeets. I think the cages are at least 5 feet tall and probably about 4 feet square.

Vannormal said:

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Locking up birds in a cage is sort of a crime.

Any bird, any animal.

A bird is not something you 'domesticate',

unless it's being conceived on a scientific level.

How the can one lock an animal up and call it Divinity?

Bash me !

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kingricefan said:

The cage(s) are actually quite lrge, not like some tiny 1 foot square/tall thing that is used for parakeets. I think the cages are at least 5 feet tall and probably about 4 feet square.

Vannormal said:

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Locking up birds in a cage is sort of a crime.

Any bird, any animal.

A bird is not something you 'domesticate',

unless it's being conceived on a scientific level.

How the can one lock an animal up and call it Divinity?

Bash me !

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One word :

'cage'

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kingricefan said:

The cage(s) are actually quite lrge, not like some tiny 1 foot square/tall thing that is used for parakeets. I think the cages are at least 5 feet tall and probably about 4 feet square.

Vannormal said:

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Locking up birds in a cage is sort of a crime.

Any bird, any animal.

A bird is not something you 'domesticate',

unless it's being conceived on a scientific level.

How the can one lock an animal up and call it Divinity?

Bash me !

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Forever feeling persecuted by constant allegations from PETA of animal abuse, Prince changed the name of his Art Official Age album from its original title 'Artificial Cage'.

true story.

laytonian said:

kingricefan said:

Guaranteed there will be a Starbucks there!!!

Never. Caribou Coffee.

Tim Horton's

ufoclub said:

LoveGalore said:

ufoclub said: I mean, who's the argument here with. It's more like some of you are upset that prince chose to live there than anything. It was the man's home. Oh well. No it wasn't a house. But obviously P didn't put much stock into places that were not Paisley.

(See the title of the post) The arguement is with the anyone who brands this as literally Prince's house that he had built as his "mansion". It's the sort of rumor that demeans his reputation as an artist.

To contradict you, Prince didn't put too much stock into Paisley outside of its functionality, when I was there for the last celebration, ceiling panels were water stained from leaks (even out of place), the AC busted and dripped water onto the stage during his performance, and we know the tape/video storage was not functional. And that bedroom seems to be put together from video props. I have a feeling it's in better shape now as a tourist attraction than it was for quite a few years when he was alive.

Prince put a lot more authentic effort, intention, and personality into his temporary "3121" residence, for example.

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Prince put little effort in his houses where he lived I think.

It was mostly the women who he lived with that did that.

Remember the stories of Susannah, Mayté and Manuela ?

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Manuella Testolini with whom he was maried from 2001 till early 2006,

was the one who had a hand in the 3121 residency.

I read that somewhere where she or someone else talked about it.

At least, 3121 was a 2005 release so there ya go.

Prince must've had a hand in picking colurs (maybe) and putting up symbols (everywhere, presumably his choice too).

After he got single again... gone were the printed images of his beautiful mansions.

It seemd a practical solution to go and live in Paisley park as being single in his later life.

All in one, cleaning maintenance, etc.

Did he gave up on love ?

Cause men alone, in a big house... wihtout a woman at their side...

they often make a mess out of it, cause their field of interests lies far from that.

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interior decorating can take a long time. It's the perfect distraction. He had his main women of the time busy decorating the house, meaning they were happy in it, as it was their taste. In the meantime, Prince had plenty opportunity to do whatever with whoever, as his lady had to be in the location of the house during the interior decorating phase.