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Reply #30 posted 08/13/20 9:50am

bonatoc

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So we're never gonna get the hornless version remastered by Bernie.

Such a disappointment.


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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #31 posted 08/13/20 9:55am

todesm

This is so much associated to "Cookie Jar" to me , A pity that it won't be on SOTT SDE... Both tracks go so nicely together
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Reply #32 posted 08/13/20 10:07am

lion88

I like version 1 better. If this song was on Sign O the Times and was released as a single in 1987, this would be the b side on the 12 inch, a remix of the original version.

[Edited 8/13/20 10:36am]

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Reply #33 posted 08/13/20 10:40am

SquirrelMeat

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I know its a minority view, but I've always much preferred this version.

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Reply #34 posted 08/13/20 10:58am

AvocadosMax

I mean its a little funky....

Its nice to hear more context of the story or whatever behind the song, but this version doesn’t do it for me
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Reply #35 posted 08/13/20 11:01am

TrevorAyer

the drums sound very housequakey

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Reply #36 posted 08/13/20 11:16am

lavendardrumma
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This could be renamed the "See how tape traders aren't experts?" version.

Version 1 is a pretty great song that should have been released. This one sounds like a hodge podge. The tin drums crack me up.

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Reply #37 posted 08/13/20 11:20am

lavendardrumma
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TrevorAyer said:

the drums sound very housequakey


Yeah definitely and it's cool to see elements in this he revisited.

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Reply #38 posted 08/13/20 11:21am

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Y come it's so slow? lol I'm torn, I like it though. I will go 2 the electric chair! nuts
For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #39 posted 08/13/20 11:21am

bonatoc

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Sounds more like a cousin to « Feel U Up » to me.
But the vocal delivery is great, as anything from this era.

Still, that raw demo... There was nothing to add.
I think Version 1 is Wendy & Lisa having a go at it, like « Wonderful Ass ».
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #40 posted 08/13/20 11:22am

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ElGorillos said:

^ and the pitch too?


EG


Yeah, the bootleg version plays faster, I thought it was a Camille style track,
I remember the boot of "Can I play with U" was at a fast pitch. Years later some bootleg compilation has 3 different versions of the song and it wasnt the same speed/pitch.

I was so use to the old boots lol
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #41 posted 08/13/20 11:30am

Giovanni777

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Ugh. Definitely not a fan of this version. I'm seeing more and more that Prince was a far better curator for what he released than previously thought!

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #42 posted 08/13/20 11:37am

FragileUnderto
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purplepolitician said:

Y come it's so slow? lol I'm torn,

Same feeling lol I always thought it was a Camille track.. FML
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #43 posted 08/13/20 11:43am

mb71

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Thanks for all the links.

A treat to have this version in this quality.

Formerly TheDigitalGardener etc.
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Reply #44 posted 08/13/20 11:43am

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FragileUndertow said:

purplepolitician said:
Y come it's so slow? lol I'm torn,
Same feeling lol I always thought it was a Camille track.. FML

I meantioned this on another thread. Apparently the boot's tape speed was wrong. I always thought it was a discarded Camille track when I heard it years ago. Either way I like Version 1 better.

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Reply #45 posted 08/13/20 12:21pm

OperatingTheta
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I much prefer this version. It's highly intense and claustrophobic and is reminiscent in atmosphere of 'Big Tall Wall'.

Love the vocals in this version also - very raw and impassioned.
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Reply #46 posted 08/13/20 12:52pm

ForceofNature

The instruments feel so much more natural at this correct speed, as does Prince's voice. I like V1 the best but this is much better than the off-speed bootleg versions, the groove really shines here

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Reply #47 posted 08/13/20 1:16pm

LoveGalore

ForceofNature said:

The instruments feel so much more natural at this correct speed, as does Prince's voice. I like V1 the best but this is much better than the off-speed bootleg versions, the groove really shines here



This. Always preferred v1 (or the beta version w/ just P). But finally the correct speed and at such brilliant quality breathes entirely new life into a so-so kinda song.
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Reply #48 posted 08/13/20 1:35pm

BlueShakooo

I love it, always did!!
Apart from his great singing and guitar playing it has a special sound (to me) because he doesn't use a Hi-Hat there.
Just like on It, Forever In My Life and Bob George.
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Reply #49 posted 08/13/20 2:01pm

Prog5000

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This is a disappointing vault track. Liked the other 3 though.
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Reply #50 posted 08/13/20 2:10pm

SimonCharles

This is fascinating having the two versions immediately juxtaposed, like this. It's fun listening to Prince messing, experimenting - I get that same feeling listeninig to Coco(a) Boys - all these ideas washing around inside his brain, funnelling out in these various versions of songs.

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Very enjoyable.

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Reply #51 posted 08/13/20 2:23pm

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Reply #52 posted 08/13/20 2:24pm

MIInsane

SquirrelMeat said:

I know its a minority view, but I've always much preferred this version.





Same here.
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Reply #53 posted 08/13/20 2:45pm

SoulAlive

MIInsane said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I know its a minority view, but I've always much preferred this version.

Same here.

Same here biggrin

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Reply #54 posted 08/13/20 2:56pm

funkycomic

Wow! I love version 1 but this has more fonk to it. The steel drums threw me for a second but they work really well on the track.
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Reply #55 posted 08/13/20 2:57pm

steakfinger

100% into version 1. Version 2 is very silly and sounds half-baked to me.

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Reply #56 posted 08/13/20 2:59pm

haveaglamslam

After listening to the song again, I've tried to get into it. I've now convfirmed everyone here smokes crack because Version 1 is a lot better. The song sounds so quickly thrown together, and that isn't the best, it sounds like an early idea that became Hot Thing. Which is another song I don't understand the love for, same with It, I get the stripped back sound. I think they don't work as well, Hot Thing obviously borrows elements from Cocoa Boys which works better and sounds stripped back but fuller at the same time. A lot better than Hot Thing and It for me.

[Edited 8/13/20 15:00pm]

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Reply #57 posted 08/13/20 2:59pm

dodger

IstenSzek said:



SchlomoThaHomo said:


I never noticed that it kind of sounds like a precursor to Bob George, which is kind of re-used by Electric Chair. He even sings about an Electric Chair in this version of Witness. It’s cool to hear links between songs.


i never noticed either, but perhaps that's because the version we had before played too fast?

this one sounds slightly slowed down and makes a lot more sense. i like the song more now cool



Yes, it's strange hearing it at this speed after all these years. I prefer this version by far.
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Agree it's cool hearing little elements of Elecric Chair, Bob George, Housequake and Camille
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Reply #58 posted 08/13/20 3:07pm

SPYZFAN1

Nice to finally hear a clear copy of this. I'm still more of a fan of the "heavy guitar" version.

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Reply #59 posted 08/13/20 4:08pm

mynameisnotsus
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SPYZFAN1 said:

Nice to finally hear a clear copy of this. I'm still more of a fan of the "heavy guitar" version.



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