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Reply #150 posted 07/24/20 1:56pm

IAdoreWeronika

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funkman88 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

rogifan said: Except Michael was obviously far and away the better dancer.

Michael was doing stuff like he was a Transformer on crack that was other worldly!

Thats a bit much WTF falloff MJ was a better dancer is enough to win the argument.

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Reply #151 posted 07/24/20 1:59pm

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funkman88 said:

I agree....Prince was a great multi instrumentalist but Stevie Wonder/maurice White/David Bowie he aint!

Wrong. That's exactly what he is. Maurice White doesn't quite belong there in my opinion but he was damn good. You could throw others in there with them: the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Bruce to name a few. All of these artists could be called geniuses because they all have transcendent work that have universal appeal.

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Reply #152 posted 07/24/20 2:02pm

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whodknee said:

funkman88 said:

I agree....Prince was a great multi instrumentalist but Stevie Wonder/maurice White/David Bowie he aint!

Wrong. That's exactly what he is. Maurice White doesn't quite belong there in my opinion but he was damn good. You could throw others in there with them: the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Bruce to name a few. All of these artists could be called geniuses because they all have transcendent work that have universal appeal.

Can i have some of what u smokin if u saY MAURICE WHITE MR. EARTH WIND & FIRE not a genius!

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Reply #153 posted 07/24/20 2:06pm

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funkman88 said:



MotownSubdivision said:


rogifan said:


You're probably right. Doesn't mean he's a better dancer, he's just more popular.Thriller sold more copies than Purple Rain. Doesn't mean it's a better album.



Except Michael was obviously far and away the better dancer.

Prince would probably say if asked who was better MJ at dancing...Prince whole style was James Brown ripoff lets be real..where Michael was doing stuff like he was a Transformer on crack that was other worldly!

...huh?
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Reply #154 posted 07/24/20 3:52pm

RJOrion

whodknee said:



funkman88 said:


I agree....Prince was a great multi instrumentalist but Stevie Wonder/maurice White/David Bowie he aint!





Wrong. That's exactly what he is. Maurice White doesn't quite belong there in my opinion but he was damn good. You could throw others in there with them: the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Bruce to name a few. All of these artists could be called geniuses because they all have transcendent work that have universal appeal.



Maurice White wasnt a genius?...LOL...you're either very young, dont know anything about music from 1971-1982, or Culturally unaware, or all of the above...do you know the man's resume and history as a drummer, percussionist, writer, arranger, producer, composer, Frontman of arguably the greatest band in music history, writer, arranger, composer, producer for other acts like The Emotions, Deniece Williams, Ramsey Lewis, Weather Report, Jennifer Holiday, even Barbara Streisand and Barry Manilow?..movie sountracks, tv shows, THE most legendary concerts, his own label with CBS (ARC RECORDS)...magnificent Kalimba player...visionary who damn near every r&b band in the 70s emulated, down to their intergallactic egyptian imagery they used on lp covers and concert performances..even socalled "hater" Quincy Jones called them the greatest band in the game...Miles Davis too...Stevie Wonder, too..Our boy Skipper name dropped EW&F on "Musicology"...MJ was backstage at their concerts picking Maurice's brain from 77 to 79...and Mr. White played drums on the Ramsey Lewis classics, Jimmy Stewart classics, Marlena Shaw, Etta James classics, BEFORE he even formed Earth Wind & Fire.




now you tell me how he wasnt a genius.
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Reply #155 posted 07/24/20 4:04pm

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MJ & Prince both overrated as dancers..

But Mike is a better dancer than Prince...

true, Mike did the same old variations of poplocking, and moonwalking and prepping for like 20 years, but Prince is just too extra with his dance moves...too much burlesque, and ballerina, and bullfighter, and figure skater, and charlie chaplin type antics poppin' off while he's dancing...its wildly entertaining and visually compelling, but pure dancing skills?... i dont know...

MJ had more natural swag and technique on the floor, mastered 3 or 4 moves and made them his own...
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Reply #156 posted 07/24/20 5:53pm

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IAdoreWeronika said:

funkman88 said:

Michael was doing stuff like he was a Transformer on crack that was other worldly!

Thats a bit much WTF falloff MJ was a better dancer is enough to win the argument.

Except he wasn't. He wasn't anything better than Prince. cool

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Reply #157 posted 07/24/20 6:09pm

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RJOrion said:

MJ & Prince both overrated as dancers.. But Mike is a better dancer than Prince... true, Mike did the same old variations of poplocking, and moonwalking and prepping for like 20 years, but Prince is just too extra with his dance moves...too much burlesque, and ballerina, and bullfighter, and figure skater, and charlie chaplin type antics poppin' off while he's dancing...its wildly entertaining and visually compelling, but pure dancing skills?... i dont know... MJ had more natural swag and technique on the floor, mastered 3 or 4 moves and made them his own...

What dance move involves making music?

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Reply #158 posted 07/24/20 6:49pm

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I guess this Prince vs. MJ stuff will never end... rolleyes beatdeadhorse

No, it will never end because 99.99% of the time it is an insecure Prince fan who starts the debate and/or negativity against MJ. I never see that type of crap in the MJ forums that I frequent. The MJ fans discuss Prince with respect, even if they are not a fan of him or his music. Not so with the majority of Prince fans, there are always some Prince fans who try to diminish or negate everything that Michael accomplished in his career. It’s immature and ignorant, IMO. I guess that’s the difference between MJ fans and Prince fans, We(MJ) fans are secure. We don’t have to tear down Prince or any other artist in order to lift up Michael or to believe that he is the Greatest Entertainer Ever! This shit has been going on for 30+ years. It’s time to give it a f@#$&*$ rest.

It's not that all, MJ fans are the same when it comes to Prince, specially the hispanic fans, they see Mike as the best of best and above it all.

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Reply #159 posted 07/24/20 7:01pm

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looby said:

Is your life truly great RJ...come on, "don't lie" lol......What's the matter RJ, you lonely, need someone to talk to you? Sorry, I don't have the time to fulfill your need right now, try someone else. wink

*TRANSLATION*

yes R.J....youre right...i dont have a million dollars

Leave alone the black Trump ass kisser please.

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Reply #160 posted 07/24/20 7:11pm

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funkman88 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

rogifan said: Except Michael was obviously far and away the better dancer.

Prince would probably say if asked who was better MJ at dancing...Prince whole style was James Brown ripoff lets be real..where Michael was doing stuff like he was a Transformer on crack that was other worldly!

AHAHAHA that was so funny

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Reply #161 posted 07/24/20 7:38pm

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slyjackson said:

funkman88 said:

Prince would probably say if asked who was better MJ at dancing...Prince whole style was James Brown ripoff lets be real..where Michael was doing stuff like he was a Transformer on crack that was other worldly!

AHAHAHA that was so funny

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Reply #162 posted 07/25/20 6:43am

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No way. To this day I think Prince's genius was often UNDER APPRECIATED and under recognised. He had so much more in him when he died. Just ran out of time. bheart

[Edited 7/25/20 6:44am]

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Reply #163 posted 07/25/20 7:00am

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Wlcm2thdwn3 said:

No way. To this day I think Prince's genius was often UNDER APPRECIATED and under recognised. He had so much more in him when he died. Just ran out of time. bheart

[Edited 7/25/20 6:44am]




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Reply #164 posted 07/25/20 7:59am

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rogifan said:



IAdoreWeronika said:




funkman88 said:



Michael was doing stuff like he was a Transformer on crack that was other worldly!



Thats a bit much WTF falloff MJ was a better dancer is enough to win the argument.



Except he wasn't. He wasn't anything better than Prince. cool

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Reply #165 posted 09/02/20 9:21pm

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RJOrion said:

whodknee said:

Wrong. That's exactly what he is. Maurice White doesn't quite belong there in my opinion but he was damn good. You could throw others in there with them: the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Bruce to name a few. All of these artists could be called geniuses because they all have transcendent work that have universal appeal.

Maurice White wasnt a genius?...LOL...you're either very young, dont know anything about music from 1971-1982, or Culturally unaware, or all of the above...do you know the man's resume and history as a drummer, percussionist, writer, arranger, producer, composer, Frontman of arguably the greatest band in music history, writer, arranger, composer, producer for other acts like The Emotions, Deniece Williams, Ramsey Lewis, Weather Report, Jennifer Holiday, even Barbara Streisand and Barry Manilow?..movie sountracks, tv shows, THE most legendary concerts, his own label with CBS (ARC RECORDS)...magnificent Kalimba player...visionary who damn near every r&b band in the 70s emulated, down to their intergallactic egyptian imagery they used on lp covers and concert performances..even socalled "hater" Quincy Jones called them the greatest band in the game...Miles Davis too...Stevie Wonder, too..Our boy Skipper name dropped EW&F on "Musicology"...MJ was backstage at their concerts picking Maurice's brain from 77 to 79...and Mr. White played drums on the Ramsey Lewis classics, Jimmy Stewart classics, Marlena Shaw, Etta James classics, BEFORE he even formed Earth Wind & Fire. now you tell me how he wasnt a genius.

lol The word "genius" is thrown around too much. I personally reserve it for the one-man band types. Like I said he was damned good. If you want to call him a genius go ahead. We'll agree to disagree.

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Reply #166 posted 09/03/20 3:34am

Shannon319

Good grief. Just be a fan and enjoy the compliments he received. ICNTTPOYM is a great song with nuanced lyrics. Who cares if it is simple. Its a perfect pop song.

Smokey80 said:

Sometimes I feel that way.

Don't get me wrong, I believe he is a genius, but some fans act as if the dude pooped purple glitter and everything he touched turned to gold.

Seeing fans go apeshit over the ICNTTPOYM 1979 demo, I saw one comment about how "Prince was 21 when he wrote this. Genius."

Genius? Really? A simplistic 3 chord pop song? The "genius" word is thrown around way too easily on here.

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Reply #167 posted 09/03/20 10:44pm

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I think the trouble is, some of the people on the org listen almost exclusively to Prince, so to them a 40yr old demo of a 30yr old old Prince track is infinitely more exciting than listening to Neil Young or David Bowie.

I feel a bit sorry for these people, but they'll grow up eventually.

How much do you think a Picasso sketch is worth these days? Museums find these kind of things exciting.

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Reply #168 posted 09/03/20 10:53pm

MoodyBlumes

The song ended up on SOTT -- he didn't put this out in 1979. He did put out 'I Feel for You', one of the biggest hits of Chaka Khan's career. Howard Bloom was impressed - What Made Prince Prince?

"Then a year later, in 1979, he put out his 2nd album 'Prince'. An astonishing thing happened - no one knew who he was and that album went platinum. I was paying attention the whole time.... I had been admiring whoever this person was from a distance for achieving impossible things. For with total anonymity, somehow climbing all the way to platinum on only his 2nd album."

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