rogifan said:

ForceofNature said:

A bunch of people arguing over what is or isn't "genius" never turns out well lol

It's just like every time the RRHOF inductions are announced and people complain about who got in and why someone else is more deserving. This last year people were livid that Whitney Houston got in Even though it was 10 years after she was first eligible. Even though she's one of the best selling female artists of all times with 7 #1 singles in a row (overtaking the Beatles), numerous multi-platinum albums including the best selling soundtrack of all time. But no how terrible she's inducted it should be King Crimson instead.

The outrage that some take over who is inducted into the RRHOF is just uttterly ridiculous! I'm sure that wherever Whitney Houston is right now, that she doesn't give a flying crap about the RRHOF or anything else in this world that she's no longer a part of.

RJOrion said:

onlyforaminute said:

slyjackson said:

How are we goin to punish this offensive heresy, hanging or burning him alive?

Boiled in oil?

No, too lightly

ForceofNature said:

slyjackson said:

How are we goin to punish this offensive heresy, hanging or burning him alive?

Jughead listening party

Great one, this might do the trick.

Smokey80 said:

Sometimes I feel that way.

Don't get me wrong, I believe he is a genius, but some fans act as if the dude pooped purple glitter and everything he touched turned to gold.

Seeing fans go apeshit over the ICNTTPOYM 1979 demo, I saw one comment about how "Prince was 21 when he wrote this. Genius."

Genius? Really? A simplistic 3 chord pop song? The "genius" word is thrown around way too easily on here.

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Oh God yeah, by SOME fans the overstatement is palpable.

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It's embarrassing, infuriating, dumbfounding, and ultimately kind of depressing IF one lingers on it too long...

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But you have to consider the source(s) - as others have already pointed out, many "fams" who think P walked on water and stood head and shoulders above anyone else in music history, well... many of them simply have zero sense of perspective. No objectivity at all.

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Sad, sad, sad.

fortuneandserendipity said:

P was a genius of melody, rhythm as well as tone color. There've been plenty of musical geniuses but rarely anyone who consistently masters tone color. Listen to '4 Lust' and you'll know what I mean. So many brilliant songs in the vault seal him as GOAT.

Listen to "4 Lust"... Where?

CAL3 said:

Smokey80 said:

Sometimes I feel that way.

Don't get me wrong, I believe he is a genius, but some fans act as if the dude pooped purple glitter and everything he touched turned to gold.

Seeing fans go apeshit over the ICNTTPOYM 1979 demo, I saw one comment about how "Prince was 21 when he wrote this. Genius."

Genius? Really? A simplistic 3 chord pop song? The "genius" word is thrown around way too easily on here.

[Edited 7/17/20 9:17am]

.

Oh God yeah, by SOME fans the overstatement is palpable.

.

It's embarrassing, infuriating, dumbfounding, and ultimately kind of depressing IF one lingers on it too long...

.

But you have to consider the source(s) - as others have already pointed out, many "fams" who think P walked on water and stood head and shoulders above anyone else in music history, well... many of them simply have zero sense of perspective. No objectivity at all.

.

Sad, sad, sad.

yes it was a 3 chord song but the 3 chords have never been ysed before!!GENIUS Ksharp.Nflat.and Qsharp have never been used in western music and Prince did it at 21!

looby said:

rogifan said:

It's just like every time the RRHOF inductions are announced and people complain about who got in and why someone else is more deserving. This last year people were livid that Whitney Houston got in Even though it was 10 years after she was first eligible. Even though she's one of the best selling female artists of all times with 7 #1 singles in a row (overtaking the Beatles), numerous multi-platinum albums including the best selling soundtrack of all time. But no how terrible she's inducted it should be King Crimson instead.

The outrage that some take over who is inducted into the RRHOF is just uttterly ridiculous! I'm sure that wherever Whitney Houston is right now, that she doesn't give a flying crap about the RRHOF or anything else in this world that she's no longer a part of.

Well, who knows it might be so, it might be not. We haven't been there.

funkman88 said:

RJOrion said:

funkman88 said:

yes it was a 3 chord song but the 3 chords have never been ysed before!!GENIUS Ksharp.Nflat.and Qsharp have never been used in western music and Prince did it at 21!

no disrespect because maybe im just slow...but there's jokes in your reply, right?...i dont understand any of it...especially them chords

there is the genius ONLY Prince knew these chords!

ufoclub said:

Smokey80 said:

Sometimes I feel that way.

Don't get me wrong, I believe he is a genius, but some fans act as if the dude pooped purple glitter and everything he touched turned to gold.

Seeing fans go apeshit over the ICNTTPOYM 1979 demo, I saw one comment about how "Prince was 21 when he wrote this. Genius."

Genius? Really? A simplistic 3 chord pop song? The "genius" word is thrown around way too easily on here.

[Edited 7/17/20 9:17am]

I think the trick is to make a simple 3 chord pop ditty actually convey emotion, narrative, and be relatable but also seem personal in that pop way. So it's about the arrangement (which was not conventional to my ears) and the lyrics and way of singing.

But if it was this alone, no it's not genius, but in a collection of iterations and with what else was around it, it maybe shows some exceptional talent.

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"I Could Never Take The Place..." is not a 3 chord song btw.

Prince had more talent in his pinky finger than MJ had in his whole body.

tab32792 said:

I guess this Prince vs. MJ stuff will never end...

rogifan said:

tab32792 said:

rogifan said:

I don't see any Mj/Prince comparisons......and I never have.

They are totally different types of artists.

Graycap23 said:

rogifan said:

Prince had more talent in his pinky finger than MJ had in his whole body.

not on the dance floor and vocal ability...let's not get crazy now!

If fans don't overstate it, who else is gonna.

RJOrion said:

Graycap23 said:

I don't see any Mj/Prince comparisons......and I never have.

They are totally different types of artists.

youre right there really is none, but as two of the greatest acts in the history of music, who were basically the same age (and same background) with overlapping careers, the comparisons were/are gonna be inevitable...just like the Lebron vs MJ comparisons...totally different games and styles, but each arguably great enough to claim the throne... musicians are hypercompetitive like athletes, and so are their fans, just like sports fans...so the debates are endless, and nuanced, and sometimes even entertaining.

I hear ya......I just think it's a silly comparison.

I always end the argument like this: I'll give u my Prince compilation of songs written, arranged, produced and performed by Prince......and U give me Mj's.

funkman88 said:

If you don't believe the fans. Believe the industry people like Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Nicks to name just a few who think Prince IS a genuis.

RJOrion said:

tab32792 said:

Just watch housequake from the sign o the times movie or the first 4 songs from the nude tour and all that moonwalking bullshit looks elementary in comparison. He did primarily the same dance moves and performed the same set list from the victory tour in 84 til this is it. Zzzzzz

word...MJ's reputation as a dancer is/was wildly overrated.... so many other artists could outdance MJ during and after his prime, that it was comical to see certain people be so amazed by him as a dancer

Yeah who is that? you're a MJ hater so your opinion is one that is just silly.