RJOrion said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I thought it was actually pimps on the street and/or Andre's cousin who was a pimp

im well aware of Andre's brother being a pimp...but thats a different story, altogether...we were talking about the voice Prince uses on Cloreen Baconskin, and other songs...still not sure why its being called a 'pimp voice"...

Yeah, I'll find it. but i posted it in one of the era threads i did on the Time. When i scan thru I'll post it.

RJOrion said:

Andre Cymone and i think even Susan Rogers has said the so called "PimpVoice" was them imitating how Prince's father talked.

nayroo2002 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

RJOrion said:

Andre Cymone and i think even Susan Rogers has said the so called "PimpVoice" was them imitating how Prince's father talked.

For some reason I don't think Prince would say that about his father. And I've heard his father talk, he doesn't talk like that. Not to mention they way Prince described his fathers conservative and educated demeaner, he didn't curse etc I don't think he talked like that.

Rimshottbob said:

Mutha fucka didn't even have headphones on!

OldFriends4Sale said:

RJOrion said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

For some reason I don't think Prince would say that about his father. And I've heard his father talk, he doesn't talk like that. Not to mention they way Prince described his fathers conservative and educated demeaner, he didn't curse etc I don't think he talked like that.

who said anything about what Prince said?...and Prince wouldnt say what about his father?...what you talkin bout Willis?

Did I misread this?

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RJOrion said:

Andre Cymone and i think even Susan Rogers has said the so called "PimpVoice" was them imitating how Prince's father talked.

TrcikyChristopher said:

Rimshottbob said:

Er, that's not Prince.... I believe it's Johnny Blackshire?

He's talking about The Artist formerly known as Prince.

EDIT: Sorry, I mean Kip Blackshire!

[Edited 7/13/20 14:34pm]

It's Dujuan. Kip and Johnny's brother. Kip confirmed to me years ago. You see Dujuan doing it during the Rave concert.

Did I say Prince? My face is red, I stand corrected (I stand corrected).

OldFriends4Sale said:

RJOrion said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Did I misread this?

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RJOrion said:

Andre Cymone and i think even Susan Rogers has said the so called "PimpVoice" was them imitating how Prince's father talked.

does it say "Prince said" or does it say "Andre or Susan said"? and how does imitating someones voice implicate anyone said anything about anyone?...you do know Andre and Morris have been around Prince's father dont you?...so yeah, apparently you misread something, somewhere..

Dude, Andre & Susan would only be quoting something that came from Prince. Don't take this personal. It's not directed at you.
So no I'm not misreading anything. I'm not questioning you.

From everything I read from Prince, (just went through a bunch of 1985 interviews) Prince's perspective of his father is the opposite of 'his father talked like a pimp', unless it was John Nelson who imitated the talk.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Dandroppedadime said:

Mutha fucka didn't even have headphones on!

RJOrion said:

nayroo2002 said:

I think he/she/it means J. Starr

im obviously a he, dont be a Clown...and yes i was wrong, bob george is not the same as the so called "pimp voice", upon further review...although he's close when he says "ill kick yo ass...twice"

We were both wrong, RJ!

He IS in there!

Just like he's in "Screwdriver (Remix)"

...ooh my goodness...

nayroo2002 said:

the Time were fashioned after Gigolos(Get Lonely Too) Players Hipsters and Gangsters.
Including Monte Moore, St Paul, etc
That is the image on the time shows(the opening collection plate piece), Morris and Jerome in the movie Purple Rain(not to mention Christopher & Tricky were fashioned after Morris & Jerome, two Gigolos)

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It might not be a pimp thing. But maybe 'that voice' is something Prince heard and like to imitate. But Prince's father didn't talk like that.
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"That stuff about my dad was part of [director-cowriter] Al Magnoli's story," Prince explains. "We used parts of my past and present to make the story pop more, but it was a story. My dad wouldn't have nothing to do with guns. He never swore, still doesn't, and never drinks." Prince looks in his rearview mirror at the car tailing him. -1985

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want to love you, you made me wait
Then you told me I look like a pimp
But honey, I noticed you waited till after dinner
18 jumbo shrimp, damn

Chocolate

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Dapper brand of 'cool' still suits Time

In the '80s, when backdated attire turned a handful of street-wise musicians into sartorial hipsters, fans nationwide struggled to keep up with The Time.

Inspired by zoot suits, bygone Hollywood glamour and underworld cool, the band scoured hand-me-down shops for designer castoffs to enhance their image as swaggering funk kingpins. Porkpie hats, pleated trousers, wide-shouldered long coats, Morris Day's gold jacket with the tiger-print lapels. OK, not every outfit screamed panache. Some just screamed.

Little has changed, except now they can afford new threads.

"Our first clothing budget was $100," Jesse Johnson remembers. "For all of us."

Sporting flashy suits, shades and fedoras, The Time continues to pride itself on fashion sense. And in typical Time fashion, the band is still behind the times, opting for a Godfather vibe over today's sloppy chic.

It all started with sprees at Minneapolis vintage shops Ragstock and Tatters Clothing.

"We were interested in being cool," Jimmy Jam says. "It was about attitude and feeling good about ourselves, even though we didn't have the money."

Morris had to overcome his retail snobbery. "I ain't going to lie: I was a little apprehensive about going into a used-clothing store," he says. "But that original Presley (suit) came out of Tatters, and I wore it till it fell off."

No designers or stylists played a role in The Time's flamboyant early press photos or videos.

At concerts during the first tour, "every kid was dressed like us, because they could do it cheap," Jesse says. "The prices at Ragstock went way up."

The Time's dapper-duds scheme soon backfired.

Says Jerome Benton, "By the end of the tour, used suits at Aardvark's (in L.A.) were $300."

http://usatoday30.usatoda...side_N.htm

Tricky (non-album track) (lead vocals by [Prince] co lead Morris Day) (3:11)
recorded February 1984 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & lead vocals) with [Morris Day] (drums & additional voices)
written by [Prince] with [Morris Day] • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day]
finally released 1984 on the 7"-Single [Ice cream castles] • 1984 on the 7"-Single [Jungle love] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [Ice cream castles]• 1984 on the 12"-Single [Jungle love]

Tricky (3:11) (lead vocals by Prince)

.... 1, 2, 3, 4
.... Why you big, tossed-salad, hairdo-havin', long, tall, snaggly gold-toothed,
.... funkin' habit-formed, leather-wearin', beanpole-lookin', black...

Shit! Oh! Somebody bring me a piece of chicken!

What... what Tricky say? What Tricky say? Yakety-yak?
Yakety-yak. My ass, mutha... Uh!
Oh, gimme some horns.

You can't fuck with that, look out!
We ain't gonna put no more instruments on this.
We ain't got time. We don't have ti... What time is it?
It's time for you to ... It's time for you to retire.
You're over... wait, wait, wait!

Why you, and you?
You... you old, Michelin Man, fat, black...

Break now. Yes!

When I look in the mirror. I see your ugly face.
I just wanna run, in front of...
Wait, gimme some horns.

Now you go. You, you..., wait, wait, wait.
Let me... wait. You, you, you're just old.
That's all I know, you're just old and you're fat.
You know it too, don't you?
You know it, you're just fat and old.
Hit me! Uh! Yes! Yes!
That's right, yes!

Johnny, Johnny!
Don't you wish you could get on TV? On the one!
.... My man, say: "Johnny, Johnny!"

© 1984 Tionna Music ASCAP. Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day].

RJOrion said:

its also obvious youve never been around real pimps before...you seem fixated on this narrative of pimps having the same voice as Cloreen baconskin...LOL..youre getting the style of clothing and swag of Pimps mixed up with a specific vocal tone...bless your heart...for the last time that aint no PIMP VOICE...show me where P or Andre or Morris said "we're trying to sound like pinps"...please

passive aggressive...

I never said they were trying to sound like pimps. We are trying to locate where that came from

grow up a bit

I guess you prefer this to Prince's sissification back then

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It was in your own post #18 that it was YOU who posted about Andre & Susan Rogers attributing the voice to Prince's father. But you don't have any information to back that up yet. So going on your little rant about who knows what is empty noise.

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I never said it was directly from a pimp or pimp(s) i specifically said, I remember reading something about the old pimps Prince used to hear talking. And I never said it was Prince's father.

LOL we were trying to figure it out in 2010 too lol

https://prince.org/msg/7/337791?sub=1

What is the name of Prince's "Old Man" alter ego?

and in 2004 lol

https://prince.org/msg/7/119792?sub=1

RJOrion said:

LOL...I dont need information to back it up...i told you who said it...i dont have to post links and pictures to prove a point... "passive aggressive"?...you must got me mixed up with someone else...it aint even that serious champ...im just trying to put yall onto some game...if it aint for you, keep it movin

You said Andre and/or Susan Rogers... I'm searching for information, because I remember a piece or two on it...

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Keep having attitude. I'll help out the discussion

RJOrion said:

and none of my comments have been "rants"... no profanity...no personal attacks... whats the matter a brother cant deliver information or have a different thought or opinion without it being classified as a rant? interesting... should we define rant? or is that "passive aggressive"?

Ok, I'm going to get back to looking for the information/quotes etc
u should too

"Vibrator"

Body massager?! Please!

RJOrion said:

"keep having a attitude"?? why are you addressing me like im your boyfriend, girlfriend or child? real talk