love2thenines2003 said:

CONFIRMED !

AMAZON TRACKLISTleaked yesterday IS THE GOOD & FINAL ONE !

seems the 2 errors are the date and price.

love2thenines2003 said:

CONFIRMED !

AMAZON TRACKLISTleaked yesterday IS THE GOOD & FINAL ONE !

ok,cool! date and price changing are things we can live with

IstenSzek said:

love2thenines2003 said:

CONFIRMED !

AMAZON TRACKLISTleaked yesterday IS THE GOOD & FINAL ONE !

ok,cool! date and price changing are things we can live with

Er, except if the release date is changed to September 2040, and the price is now $1000.

Rimshottbob said:

IstenSzek said:

ok,cool! date and price changing are things we can live with

Er, except if the release date is changed to September 2040, and the price is now $1000.

heads would roll. many, many heads would roll

Perhaps All My Dreams and Teacher, Teacher will be the two removed? They're more Parade outtakes than SOTT, no? I could never take the place of your man might be the wrong era but at least there's a justification for including an earlier version.

jaawwnn said:

LoveGalore said:

jaawwnn said:

Perhaps All My Dreams and Teacher, Teacher will be the two removed? They're more Parade outtakes than SOTT, no? I could never take the place of your man might be the wrong era but at least there's a justification for including an earlier version.

The tracklist won't be changing, thankfully. This set, all told, is really as good as it could ever be. It's the biggest release of Prince material, released or otherwise, ever to hit the market in one go. Glorious. Take my money. I don't even mind the remix in place of something else.

No? Fair enough. Looks great as it is!

What are everyone's thoughts on what the preview single will be to accompany the official press realease? They ususally release one song at press release.

My pick is either EMOTIONAL PUMP or EVERYBODY WANT WHAT THEY DON'T GOT.

Both are very commerical and poppy or funky sounding tracks that would make a good first impression on new listeners. I think EMOTIONAL PUMP would be the smartest choice personally. Thoughts?

zobilamouche said:

Well the whole reason to refilm most of the show back home in the US was exactly because of the material shot in Europa was unusable.

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That used to be the narrative. From interviews with many of the people involved with the film, it seems now that, while the film was a bit dark at times (for which there are many technologies now to make that less of a problem), there was a lack of close ups (although the show in Belgium was filmed especially for close ups) and as Prince started re-shooting some of the parts, he had more ideas and wanted to create more of a narrative for which parts of the performances had to be adjusted. This led to more and more footage being re-shot and led to the SOTT movie, which is more of an abstract theater show than a registration of a Prince concert.

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Which means... yes, it is entirely possible to create an actual concert video of the footage that was shot. And since it was film, it could be scanned at 4k or 8k and with all the latest techniques, I am sure they could even add some close ups (although digital zoom is awful, but if they scan at 8k, there's quite some leeway before it gets bad) and make it look good. For me, that's a wish that I think simply won't come true...

tab32792 said:

If the film or video or whatever wasn’t usable in 1987, it damn sure wouldn’t be in 2020.

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quite the opposite.. See also the blu-rays of movies from more than 50 years ago. Take the analog film and scan at high resolution. And then you have all these digital tools at your disposal!

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So, do we have any idea as to the physical shape of the CD version of the SDE? Is it going to be a box like "1999"? Or a bigger box, like the Smashing Pumpkins' "Mellon Collie" SDE from several years ago? Or a weird non-standard thing like the "Rave" SDE?

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Not that it really matters, as I don't have my music stored on shelves anymore. But the OCD collector in me would like some sort of standard design for the Prince SDE catalog.

jaorecords said:

Romeoblu said:

jaorecords said:

What are everyone's thoughts on what the preview single will be to accompany the official press realease? They ususally release one song at press release.

My pick is either EMOTIONAL PUMP or EVERYBODY WANT WHAT THEY DON'T GOT.

Both are very commerical and poppy or funky sounding tracks that would make a good first impression on new listeners. I think EMOTIONAL PUMP would be the smartest choice personally. Thoughts?

I agree Emotional Pump is a quality track that has that great funk pop vibe. My own choice would be Cosmic Day as I've longed to hear the full version. I think they might go with a live track or Power Fantastic. Can I Play with u might also get the attention of Miles and Jazz fans.

The 1979 demo of I COULD NEVER TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR MAN?

IstenSzek said:

love2thenines2003 said:

CONFIRMED !

AMAZON TRACKLISTleaked yesterday IS THE GOOD & FINAL ONE !

ok,cool! date and price changing are things we can live with

An added wrinkle. I pre-ordered both sets yesterday on Amazon before it was removed. At that time, the price was clearly listed on both, with a pre-order "guarantee" on price (stating it could only go down, not up). That said, wondering how Amazon handle existing orders if the cost in fact changes and the sets are now at a higher price point? Surely they'd have to honor the initial pre-order price for Prime members...no?

strange that they'd let Cosmic Day stay in the collection with all those rape references towards the end.. I bet that's one of the two things. It should be removed.

mediumdry said:

strange that they'd let Cosmic Day stay in the collection with all those rape references towards the end.. I bet that's one of the two things. It should be removed.

What rape references are in Cosmic Day? As far as I was aware, the complete version wasn't circulating, only the first two verses and hook. Are you sure you aren't thinking of another song, or did I miss something?

Militant said:

jaorecords said:

Militant said:

mediumdry said:

strange that they'd let Cosmic Day stay in the collection with all those rape references towards the end.. I bet that's one of the two things. It should be removed.

What rape references are in Cosmic Day? As far as I was aware, the complete version wasn't circulating, only the first two verses and hook. Are you sure you aren't thinking of another song, or did I miss something?

silly joke, that's all, is my guess

seanski said:

I wonder if some traders that have some of the holy grail tracks will release them as they will have little value once this gets released!

they won't. they'll still have a slightly different version with a 2 second longer fade out or shit like that.

Listing is gone again from Amazon

IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

jaawwnn said:

I would bet money that that either didn't exist anywhere except in Prince's mind or that its some 90s NPG re-recording that Prince deemed better. Unless someone like Neversin says it exists I'll have my doubts. Anyway, there will be issues with this set of course, as always, but I cannot wait. Looks great! [Edited 6/23/20 14:17pm]

I could be a 20 minute band rehearsal version as well.

A 15-20 minute version of a live/rehearsal/soundcheck take with studio overdubs was shared some weeks ago with some people.
I believe this version could have been an extended version a la the 'I would die 4 u' 12 inch version for release on the abandonned 12 inch single.

PacManPlus said:

Listing is gone again from Amazon

"wishy washy"...

OnlyNDaUsa said:

jaawwnn said:

LOL that it doesn't even include all the Crystal Ball, Dream Factory, or Camille songs.

What is missing? Wendy's Interlude? That is okay.. and it is odd that they kept "Visions" but not "Interlude"

but other that that on thing what is missing? The alt take of "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man"?

'Visions' was officially released by Wendy and Lisa as Minneapolis #1 (or #2) right?

JorisE73 said:

jaorecords said:

LoveGalore said:

JorisE73 said:

'Visions' was officially released by Wendy and Lisa as Minneapolis #1 (or #2) right?

Yup. Or so that's what we have known. But we've had long-standing ideas corrected by these releases before.

Different versions of Sexual Suicide and Crystal Ball (I think?) as well. Ultimately I think we'd need a leak similar to the Crystal Ball album tape from a few years back to see what versions, edits etc. were used. It's gonna bug me that the Wendy Interlude isn't released though!