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Thread started 06/08/20 7:49am

PurpleColossus

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Come - One of Prince's Greatest Albums?

In a few recent album ranking threads, I've been noticing a considerable division on how fans view 'Come'. For some, (including myself), it is ranked very highly, and for others it clearly is not. I think its funky hypnotic grooves and dark haunting atmosphere easily make it one of his greatest. Prince's vocals and different vocal layers throughout the album are also incredible. I remember when I first heard the album, I was like... omg

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What is your overall feeling of the album? Do you place it among his greatest? If your not a fan of the album, what are some of the elements you dislike? No judgements if you don't like it, I'm just curious about what some of the album's criticisms could be.

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/20 9:33am

antonb

To be frank, we have discussed this a few times on this forum. To answer your question, Come has always been my guilty pressure from when it first came out! I have always loved it! It got pretty bad reviews at the time, and I remember buying it and thinking how wrong the critics was at the time. To me its a very good album that i can listen too with out skipping a track.

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Reply #2 posted 06/08/20 9:46am

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It is an alright album, it has some good songs but I wouldn't call it a classic.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #3 posted 06/08/20 9:47am

Wolfie87

This has to be one of the most frequently posted topic on this forum? I've seen this question about eight times over my short time at the Org.

Maybe that speaks volumes. Maybe it doesn't. Who knows lol
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Reply #4 posted 06/08/20 10:01am

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masterpiece. underappreciated. top 10 prince album.

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Reply #5 posted 06/08/20 10:33am

TrivialPursuit

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lustmealways said:

masterpiece. underappreciated. top 10 prince album.


Co-sign 100%.

No comparing it to The Gold Experience or anything either for the sake of this argument.

COME's aural aesthetic was just really interesting to me. It was dark, gothy, equally electronic and organic.
Things like "Space" or "Solo" felt natural, real.
Then you had funk workouts like "Pheromone," and "Race."
Dancefloor assassins like "Loose!" show up.
There there are these storytelling songs like "Papa" (which only add to the darker mood on the record), "Letitgo" (all about his fight with WB and his career) and "Come" (the sexual journey narrative rivaled only by things The Scandalous Sex Suite or "International Lover").

Somehow the weirdness of "Orgasm" bookends the album perfectly, since it started with a sexually explicit romp in the title track. It's really a moody journey, almost like two people fucking, and having these occasional conversations about race, life, or whatever in between moments of passion.

The only album that really gets in the same vein is 1999, as far as the sexual narrative ("International Lover," "Little Red Corvette"), the drawn out lidibo ("Automatic"), the career examining songs ("All The Critics"), social commentary ("Lady Cab Driver"), and so on. Not that Prince didn't delve into those things on other albums here and there, but as a whole, Come is sort of 1999's 2nd cousin.

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Reply #6 posted 06/08/20 11:09am

PurpleColossus

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TrivialPursuit said:

lustmealways said:

masterpiece. underappreciated. top 10 prince album.


Co-sign 100%.

No comparing it to The Gold Experience or anything either for the sake of this argument.

COME's aural aesthetic was just really interesting to me. It was dark, gothy, equally electronic and organic.
Things like "Space" or "Solo" felt natural, real.
Then you had funk workouts like "Pheromone," and "Race."
Dancefloor assassins like "Loose!" show up.
There there are these storytelling songs like "Papa" (which only add to the darker mood on the record), "Letitgo" (all about his fight with WB and his career) and "Come" (the sexual journey narrative rivaled only by things The Scandalous Sex Suite or "International Lover").

Somehow the weirdness of "Orgasm" bookends the album perfectly, since it started with a sexually explicit romp in the title track. It's really a moody journey, almost like two people fucking, and having these occasional conversations about race, life, or whatever in between moments of passion.

The only album that really gets in the same vein is 1999, as far as the sexual narrative ("International Lover," "Little Red Corvette"), the drawn out lidibo ("Automatic"), the career examining songs ("All The Critics"), social commentary ("Lady Cab Driver"), and so on. Not that Prince didn't delve into those things on other albums here and there, but as a whole, Come is sort of 1999's 2nd cousin.

Excellent points...Very well said nod I also think the darker vibe on the album gives a good sense of where Prince was personally. I recall someone posting that 'Come' sounded like he was going through a lot, which was probably fueled by the WB fight. 'Letitgo' as you mention is probably the most direct reference to the WB issue. For me though, I find most of the tracks have an undercurrent of restlessness and frustration.

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Reply #7 posted 06/08/20 11:35am

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Baby cried..."I'm sorry! I won't do it no more." Papa said, "Yeah, I know. That's what this here's for.."

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Reply #8 posted 06/08/20 1:35pm

dodger

It's from my favourite era (92-95), when I was a new fan, so it will always be one of my favourite albums.
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Like most of his albums we all look back and think of what changes he should/should not have made. In this case I think Strays Of The World would have been an epic closer. He even says 'come' at the end. Orgasm is just a waste of a track.
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Reply #9 posted 06/08/20 2:12pm

RODSERLING

IT s a great album, just as every Prince release in the 1980/95 era.
Also, best Prince album cover.
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Reply #10 posted 06/08/20 3:02pm

ThePersian

I love the album, always have done.

But like all Prince albums (except Dirty Mind), it is flawed for me.

Come, the title track, the version that is on the album is far inferior to the version from the Beautiful Experience film. The album would have been much better with 11 mins of that mix.

Space is good but often flits in an out of my Prince best of, play list.

Pheremone is fantastic. Always up there and extra good with headphones / earphones.

Loose is meh.

Papa is great, but not always an easy listen. Does a longer version exist?

Race, I could take or leave. But if I'm auditioning new Hi-Fi equipment it is one of my reference tracks for the bass sound. Weirdly many speakers struggle with it.

Dark - I love this track. Always in my best of / playlists. Much better than the version (So Dark) from Crystal Ball.

Solo - Absolutely love this track. Always in my best of / playlists.

I know this track really divides the fans though. Would be interesting to know what annoys the haters so much.

Letitgo - Absolutely love this track but I can't listen to the album version due to the channel of distorted noise that has been added seemingly just to piss people off and canines too.

So I add Letitgo (On the Cool-Out Tip radio edit) instead as that is awesome too.

Is there a longer (full version) of this mix kicking around?

Why release something and call it an edit when there's only one version - why not just On the Cool-Out Tip Mix? Prince Vault lists Letitgo (On The Cool-Out Mix) as unreleased - have any bootleg perusers noted its actual existence?

I think the Come / Gold Experience period is one of Prince's most awesome moments.

I'd love a Come / GE Super Deluxe edition as one package. Musically they blend really well into each. Third on my list of SDE requests after ATWIAD and SOTT.


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Reply #11 posted 06/08/20 3:12pm

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In response to what
ThePersian said in this thread...

rabbit. Can
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all that and a bag of chips emotion? I'm requesting two separate ones or a combo would be great.
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Reply #12 posted 06/08/20 6:40pm

slyjackson

lustmealways said:

masterpiece. underappreciated. top 10 prince album.

I agree, specially when it comes to cohesiviness of the album and the dark sound and vibe, however and as usual it could have been better if What's My Name, Interactive and the other one I dont remeber right now.

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Reply #13 posted 06/08/20 11:40pm

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lustmealways said:

masterpiece. underappreciated. top 10 prince album.


Same as in top 10.
I can live without a couple tracks like Solo and Orgasam.
But other than that I love it. Especially the title track.
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And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #14 posted 06/08/20 11:47pm

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This thread makes me miss damosuzuki!

I like Come a lot. It has great atmosphere and its brevity was a nice change from the massive ambition of the 3 previous studio albums. That said, none of the tracks are among my very favorites of his. Many great songs, but no all-timers for me - the closest being "Papa". I'm not huge on the singles, either.

Last time I made a list, it came in as my 17th favorite of the 39 Prince albums, so I view it as a mid-tier Prince album. For an artist of Prince's caliber, that still means it's very, very good!

Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #15 posted 06/09/20 12:09am

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Moonbeam said:

. I'm not huge on the singles, either.


I actually loved The Universal Love remix and the Account mix? (I dont recall the exact name)
Letirgo remix (Shermstick,) was cool too
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #16 posted 06/09/20 1:18am

dodger

FragileUndertow said:

Moonbeam said:

. I'm not huge on the singles, either.


I actually loved The Universal Love remix and the Account mix? (I dont recall the exact name)
Letirgo remix (Shermstick,) was cool too


I was just about to say; the Universal Love Remix is one of my top P tracks. And I guess you mean the Acoustic Remix, which is stunning also to me
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Reply #17 posted 06/09/20 1:26am

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Come, the title track, the version that is on the album is far inferior to the version from the Beautiful Experience film.

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That's the popular fan narrative. I never understood it. It is what made me search out the other versions of the song. This is by far the best. Sure, we could do without the fake (?) cunnilingus sounds that go on forever, but none of the other versions have the same funk. Great horns, bass... The version we got is, imho, the absolute best version.

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So.. let's hope for a SDE that has all versions so that finally all fans can agree that the best version is on the SDE. wink

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Reply #18 posted 06/09/20 2:50am

Moonbeam

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FragileUndertow said:

Moonbeam said:
. I'm not huge on the singles, either.
I actually loved The Universal Love remix and the Account mix? (I dont recall the exact name) Letirgo remix (Shermstick,) was cool too


The remixes are decent enough, but "Letitgo" and "Space" are my two least favorite songs on the album, bar "Orgasm".

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Reply #19 posted 06/09/20 7:09am

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My favorite remixes from the Come singles are:

Space (Acoustic) - The acoustic guitar adds a lighter feeling to the song. For me, the acoustic version feels like the daytime version of Space, and the one on the album is the nightime version.

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Letitgo (Sherm Stick) - The Ballad of Dorothy Parker effects and guitar makes this version of Letitgo feel much more haunting.

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Reply #20 posted 06/09/20 7:17am

jdcxc

Love Come! Brilliant album and def underrated. Better than The Gold Experience imo.

“Space”, “Dark” are both Top 20 Prince songs.

Crazy to think how good this album wud be with the tracks that were left off.
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Reply #21 posted 06/09/20 7:43am

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I consider Come a top 10 on his discography and one of the most interesting things he did in terms of sounds, concepts and execution.

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Reply #22 posted 06/09/20 7:45am

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All the songs/alternate versions left off this record that every other fan clamors for were better not on the record. They usually sound all glammy-Gold Experience-esque, completely unrelated to the dark cold jazzy funk night vibe of Come.

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Reply #23 posted 06/09/20 8:17am

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A perfect example of the parts being greater than the sum and sequencing being important.

He cut too much off and it suffers as a whole.


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Reply #24 posted 06/09/20 10:03am

jaawwnn

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All the songs/alternate versions left off this record that every other fan clamors for were better not on the record. They usually sound all glammy-Gold Experience-esque, completely unrelated to the dark cold jazzy funk night vibe of Come.

I prefer most of the alternate versions but you do have a point. I think you could make a better album if you mix the alternate versions with various, often alternate as well, tracks from the Gold Experience, but what you wouldn't have is Come.

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Reply #25 posted 06/09/20 10:33am

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Space to Letitgo is a great string of songs that I think go really well together. Come the track is too long. Solo is interesting but not one of my faves. Orgasm is a waste.

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Reply #26 posted 06/09/20 11:08am

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dodger said:

FragileUndertow said:



I actually loved The Universal Love remix and the Account mix? (I dont recall the exact name)
Letirgo remix (Shermstick,) was cool too


I was just about to say; the Universal Love Remix is one of my top P tracks. And I guess you mean the Acoustic Remix, which is stunning also to me



lol acoustic, yeah I typed this on my phone
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #27 posted 06/09/20 12:24pm

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Poplife88 said:

Space to Letitgo is a great string of songs that I think go really well together. Come the track is too long. Solo is interesting but not one of my faves. Orgasm is a waste.


If 10 minutes is too long to Come, you're doing it wrong. lol

"Orgasm" is there for a reason and we all know why.

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Reply #28 posted 06/09/20 12:27pm

slyjackson

Come is too long indeed.

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Reply #29 posted 06/09/20 3:11pm

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The Come album is a better coehesive album than GOLD Experience. Although, GE has better songs on it as an entire album the COME album is better.

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