FrankieCoco1 said:

- 76 Strange Relationship (1987 Sh) (07:07) I don’t think this version is mentioned on Prince Vault but it could be a Shep Pettibone remix. He did some of the Hot Thing mixes and later did Glam Slam.

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That's a really interesting idea - I couldn't work out what the 'Sh...' might refer to.

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I have no idea where this website gets its info from but they do have Strange Relationship listed under the Prince tracks Shep worked on...?

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http://www.hotdiscomix.de...ne_mix.htm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

- 76 Strange Relationship (1987 Sh) (07:07) I don’t think this version is mentioned on Prince Vault but it could be a Shep Pettibone remix. He did some of the Hot Thing mixes and later did Glam Slam. [Edited 6/10/20 15:09pm] [Edited 6/10/20 15:10pm] [Edited 6/10/20 15:11pm]

good detective work

http://www.princevault.co...thy_Parker

“The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker is an unreleased single planned for release in late 1987 as a single from Prince's ninth album Sign O' The Times, but the single release was abandoned. Nothing is known about the proposed tracklist, although the a-side is believed to have been the album version of The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker.
An extended version was also intended for the 12" release.”

I’ve got a hunch that given the other unreleased extended versions at the end of the vault section, that this may fill one of the missing “holes” at 74 or 75.

FrankieCoco1 said:

http://www.princevault.co...thy_Parker “The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker is an unreleased single planned for release in late 1987 as a single from Prince's ninth album Sign O' The Times, but the single release was abandoned. Nothing is known about the proposed tracklist, although the a-side is believed to have been the album version of The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker. An extended version was also intended for the 12" release.” I’ve got a hunch that given the other unreleased extended versions at the end of the vault section, that this may fill one of the missing “holes” at 74 or 75.

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I hope you're right - I'd be really excited to hear this!

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geetee71 said:

It’s the track I’m most looking forward to, really hope it’s there. If it’s not, then everything that is included will have to be very special indeed to compensate!

FrankieCoco1 said:

http://www.princevault.co...thy_Parker “The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker is an unreleased single planned for release in late 1987 as a single from Prince's ninth album Sign O' The Times, but the single release was abandoned. Nothing is known about the proposed tracklist, although the a-side is believed to have been the album version of The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker. An extended version was also intended for the 12" release.” I’ve got a hunch that given the other unreleased extended versions at the end of the vault section, that this may fill one of the missing “holes” at 74 or 75.

Wasn't there talks of a 9 minute version of Adore in existence?
Or is that a rumor or speculation ?

Lianachan said:

geetee71 said:

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I hope you're right - I'd be really excited to hear this!

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It’s the track I’m most looking forward to, really hope it’s there. If it’s not, then everything that is included will have to be very special indeed to compensate!

What about the 20 minute version of Adore?

rap said:

was it 20 minutes? funny I just posted above you

geetee71 said:

Love Shep's work on Grand Slam!

LoveGalore said:

Yeah that's an ultra rare early version of Twelve


Edit to explain my dumb joke... the song Twelve was sampled in "Glam Slam '91"
[Edited 6/10/20 21:29pm]

VaultCurator said:

If you're unhappy about how SOTT deluxe has been sequenced I suspect you're going to have a fit when it comes to Graffiti Bridge.

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BartVanHemelen said:

SquirrelMeat said:

The only way the estate could clean up the catalogue would be to re-release offical album remasters (with relevant released 7"/12"/B-sides)

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We should have had that 25 years ago (Remastered + Complete).
And then 20 years ago or there would need to be Expanded albums, for instance including a live album and some outtakes.
And then five or ten years later "Lost Albums" box sets with proposed album configurations that never were released.
And also "(Super) Deluxe" sets with a new remastering (because those original remasters from the 1990s sound too much of that time, e.g. too much treble etc., plus technology has improved) and lots of bonus tracks (relevant outtakes, previously unreleased alternate versions,...).
And then perhaps a "Bootleg" series where we'd get loose outtakes that wouldn't fit on any of those.
And an online archive of soundboard concert recordings with almost entire tours, released bit by bit over a long time (with the most exceptional recordings getting physical releases).

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I need a tissue or whatever right now.

Various fluids need cleaning up.....

But here we must mention the market oversaturation fears, too.

That was the main reason for 1 album per year or less or average.

FragileUndertow said:

rap said:

< What about the 20 minute version of Adore?

was it 20 minutes? funny I just posted above you

Well, longer than the released version.

I recall reading about a longer version of IIWYG. Perhaps I'm confusing it with DP since a 12" of that is on the princevaults (n use guys mentioned it also). Both of those would be dope 2 hear .

IstenSzek said:

FragileUndertow said:

Wasn't there talks of a 9 minute version of Adore in existence? Or is that a rumor or speculation ?

Prince mentioned a 20 minute version.
Last week a 14 minute semi-studio take (seems to be a rehearsal or soundcheck take with studio overdubs I was told) was shared with some traders. Maybe he was talking about that one.

UTRECHT 20 JUNE will Be the 2 cd live

PAISLEY PARK 31 DECEMBER PERFORMANCE will B the DVD on SPDL SOTT

I could never take....demo....will be the 79 Demo of the song & much more surprises to come !!

thanx 2 schkopi forum to providing 1st infos.....the french are the 1st my friend

http://www.schkopi.com/in...er-deluxe/

[Edited 6/11/20 0:00am]

love2thenines2003 said:

UTRECHT 20 JUNE will Be the 2 cd live

PAISLEY PARK 31 DECEMBER PERFORMANCE will B the DVD on SPDL SOTT

thanx 2 schkopi forum to providing 1st infos.....the french are the 1st my friend

http://www.schkopi.com/in...er-deluxe/

This was already a solid rumor last week, you're late.

JorisE73 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

UTRECHT 20 JUNE will Be the 2 cd live

PAISLEY PARK 31 DECEMBER PERFORMANCE will B the DVD on SPDL SOTT

thanx 2 schkopi forum to providing 1st infos.....the french are the 1st my friend

http://www.schkopi.com/in...er-deluxe/

This was already a solid rumor last week, you're late.

....just a resume of the info now...not a rumour anymore

[Edited 6/11/20 0:02am]

love2thenines2003 said:

JorisE73 said:

This was already a solid rumor last week, you're late.

....just a resume of the info now...not a rumour anymore

[Edited 6/11/20 0:02am]

Did the Estate release this info?
If not then it's still same rumor as last week.
We'll see eventually, would be cool to finally have the full Paisley Park show.
I would really want the second Rotterdam SOTT show just to compare the differences and overdubs with the SOTT movie.

[Edited 6/11/20 0:09am]

JorisE73 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

....just a resume of the info now...not a rumour anymore

[Edited 6/11/20 0:02am]

Did the Estate release this info?
If not then it's still same rumor as last week.
We'll see eventually, would be cool to finally have the full Paisley Park show.
I would really want the second Rotterdam SOTT show just to compare the differences and overdubs with the SOTT movie.

[Edited 6/11/20 0:09am]

This is not a rumour compilation ...this is 1000 % reliable info u can trust me on this one...the guy behind the article is a serious guy providing always strong news or confirming as news ...rumours !

[Edited 6/11/20 0:15am]

[Edited 6/11/20 0:16am]

love2thenines2003 said:

JorisE73 said:

Did the Estate release this info?
If not then it's still same rumor as last week.
We'll see eventually, would be cool to finally have the full Paisley Park show.
I would really want the second Rotterdam SOTT show just to compare the differences and overdubs with the SOTT movie.

[Edited 6/11/20 0:09am]

This is not a rumour compilation ...this is 1000 % reliable info u can trust me on this one...the guy behind the article is a serious guy providing always strong news or confirming as news ...rumours !

[Edited 6/11/20 0:15am]

Yeah I know the site, but this info also came from a reliable source to me last week who said it was still a rumor. As long as it's not 'officially' from the Estate it's still a rumor.

JorisE73 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

This is not a rumour compilation ...this is 1000 % reliable info u can trust me on this one...the guy behind the article is a serious guy providing always strong news or confirming as news ...rumours !

[Edited 6/11/20 0:15am]

Yeah I know the site, but this info also came from a reliable source to me last week who said it was still a rumor. As long as it's not 'officially' from the Estate it's still a rumor.

I understand but i can assure u is an INFO & not a rumour but anyway this is not so important...i wish u the best !

thanx

JorisE73 said:

Yeah I recall something about a 20 minute version 👍

love2thenines2003 said:

UTRECHT 20 JUNE will Be the 2 cd live

PAISLEY PARK 31 DECEMBER PERFORMANCE will B the DVD on SPDL SOTT

I could never take....demo....will be the 79 Demo of the song & much more surprises to come !!

thanx 2 schkopi forum to providing 1st infos.....the french are the 1st my friend

http://www.schkopi.com/in...er-deluxe/

[Edited 6/11/20 0:00am]

Too bad about the DVD. I was hoping for an actual gig in Europe, as there's practically zero footage from the tour in circulation. The movie is something else, nice as it is, but staged and lip-synched. I'm very curious for the real deal. Let's just now hope they have located and included the full lenght New Years' Eve Paisley Park gig, not just the second half. That would be a massive let down, video-wise.

love2thenines2003 said:

UTRECHT 20 JUNE will Be the 2 cd live

PAISLEY PARK 31 DECEMBER PERFORMANCE will B the DVD on SPDL SOTT

I could never take....demo....will be the 79 Demo of the song & much more surprises to come !!

thanx 2 schkopi forum to providing 1st infos.....the french are the 1st my friend

http://www.schkopi.com/in...er-deluxe/

[Edited 6/11/20 0:00am]

That article seems to be heavily implying that Wally will be on the set:

Google -translated quote:

While wondering if this version x x - x x x x x x x x x x x of " x x x x x "will have the same emotional charge as that described by x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x

My guess is the missing words are "re-recorded", "Wally" and "Susan Rogers".

love2thenines2003 said:

UTRECHT 20 JUNE will Be the 2 cd live

PAISLEY PARK 31 DECEMBER PERFORMANCE will B the DVD on SPDL SOTT

I could never take....demo....will be the 79 Demo of the song & much more surprises to come !!

thanx 2 schkopi forum to providing 1st infos.....the french are the 1st my friend

http://www.schkopi.com/in...er-deluxe/

We need to be careful. The author admits that the guess work for the live show stems from fan speculation and he fails to realise that the same set list at Utrect 20th was used in Paris show on the 15th and Utrect show on the 22nd.

The wording for the DVD seems vague too. It doesn't suggest its nailed on, but it might be lost in translation.

JorisE73 said:

I would really want the second Rotterdam SOTT show just to compare the differences and overdubs with the SOTT movie.

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The audio of the SOTT movie is a mix of three concerts. PV has the details.

BartVanHemelen said:

JorisE73 said:

I would really want the second Rotterdam SOTT show just to compare the differences and overdubs with the SOTT movie.

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The audio of the SOTT movie is a mix of three concerts. PV has the details.

I had the pleasure of once hearing the opening of the second Rotterdam show in soundboard and realised the version of Sign O The Times in the movie was from this show but ofcourse instead of him shouting 'Uptown' he shouted 'Holland'.
Great version, but I'll check PV for more info thanks!