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rogifan

What was up with Prince’s white face in the early-mid 90s?

I never liked the Liza Minelli look. Why did Prince use all this makeup that made his face look white? Was he trying to signify that "Prince" was dead? I always thought it was kind of morbid.

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Reply #1 posted 03/26/20 11:26pm

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Pretty sure they were all wearing face powder during the Purple Rain era into Parade when he cuts his hair short. I think he goes with the pompadour and stops blending the pancake makeup as well, and it just contrasts. I think it was for the same reason he ever wore makeup.

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Reply #2 posted 03/27/20 7:31am

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from Come to The Gold Experience he looked like kinda sickly...gaunt facial features...strange' hair...vaudevillian makeup...matador suits... seemsd like he got right again for Emancipation
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Reply #3 posted 03/27/20 9:29am

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Who is Lisa Minnelli? It's Liza with a Z, not Lisa with an S, because Lisa with an S goes ssnozz. It's Z instead of S, Lie instead of Lee, it's simple as can be. See? Liza.

I don't remember Liza being gaunt or wearing half jackets with no blouse underneath or soloing on "Endorphinmachine."

All short-haired people aren't going for a Liza Minelli look. It's just short hair. (If anything was Liza, it was the wig he wore during "Raspberry Beret.")

His makeup was horrid during that time, though. I don't know if he was using a lighter foundation or setting powder, but it certainly didn't make him look good. I don't think he was trying to look dead because 'Prince was dead.' It sorta seemed to progress lighter around 1992 or so. I don't know why he wasn't using a bronzer or contour - something to add color and warmth to his face. I think he was sorta pale during the Lovesexy shows, too. Some of those closeup shots from Dortmund are just weird. The longer hair was never a favorite for me, but his teeth seemed gap-py and his makeup was lighter. Bad look all the way around.

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Reply #4 posted 03/27/20 10:19am

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His make-up is pretty light on the Purple Rain album cover..... Of course I'm looking at the giant in-store promo poster that I've had since the album was released and it may have faded over time but it still looks pretty light to me.

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Reply #5 posted 03/27/20 11:54am

rogifan

TrivialPursuit said:

Who is Lisa Minnelli? It's Liza with a Z, not Lisa with an S, because Lisa with an S goes ssnozz. It's Z instead of S, Lie instead of Lee, it's simple as can be. See? Liza.

I don't remember Liza being gaunt or wearing half jackets with no blouse underneath or soloing on "Endorphinmachine."

All short-haired people aren't going for a Liza Minelli look. It's just short hair. (If anything was Liza, it was the wig he wore during "Raspberry Beret.")

His makeup was horrid during that time, though. I don't know if he was using a lighter foundation or setting powder, but it certainly didn't make him look good. I don't think he was trying to look dead because 'Prince was dead.' It sorta seemed to progress lighter around 1992 or so. I don't know why he wasn't using a bronzer or contour - something to add color and warmth to his face. I think he was sorta pale during the Lovesexy shows, too. Some of those closeup shots from Dortmund are just weird. The longer hair was never a favorite for me, but his teeth seemed gap-py and his makeup was lighter. Bad look all the way around.


I agree the makeup was horrible as were the outfits. It really didn't get better until the 2000s.

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Reply #6 posted 03/27/20 12:51pm

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I think Prince was going for some sort of "beyond-Prince" thing, changing up his look and going extreme with it to signify a change from "Prince" to Symbol. but like Trivial Pursuit said, he did it with Lovesexy too so it was probably more of a weird aesthetic choice. In retrospect, the 93-94 era look was cool because Prince looked fucking crazy, like a pimp AND the hoe, chains, police hat, gun mic, pinstripe suits, classic wild P and the music was aggressive too. the only thing that was weird was it seemed like he dropped 20 pounds. looked tinier and underweight

Even in the 80s, Kind of strange how much Prince could change his appearance with just lighter makeup, different eyebrow and hair styles and shaving his face. to me, Purple Rain and Lovesexy are very different even though they're 4 years apart. Prince was good at marketing himself as an elusive, chameleonic character always switching up looks and clothes
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Reply #7 posted 03/27/20 1:33pm

SoulAlive

yeah,Prince looked kinda weird during that era (1993/94)....too thin and with too much make-up confused his hairstyles during that time were also very odd

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Reply #8 posted 03/27/20 2:45pm

looby

Yep, just like Little Richard, the man seemed to love his pancake. biggrin

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Reply #9 posted 03/27/20 2:47pm

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Its just as or even more exaggerated on the Purple Rain tour.

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Reply #10 posted 03/27/20 11:42pm

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Reply #11 posted 03/28/20 2:23am

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Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

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Reply #12 posted 03/28/20 5:06am

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He hasn’t always done his own make up though

Maybe was a bad make up artist in tow

Also in 90s I had horrendous concealer that when a flash went off made me white as a sheet where is put it. Looked really weird. I’ve seen this in loads of 90s films (retrospect) if he was up all night he may have had skin issues and hiding it with these products. Make ups come a long way!
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Reply #13 posted 03/28/20 6:24am

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darkroman said:

Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

cool






"white side of his family"???..


Prince didnt have a "white side of his family"...he was a black man with 2 black parents...you say white side, as if Prince were half white like in the movie Purple Rain...
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Reply #14 posted 03/28/20 8:15am

looby

Prince was light skinned, but he was black, not of mixed race.

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Reply #15 posted 03/28/20 9:09am

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darkroman said:

Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

cool



This post is full 'O' BS
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Reply #16 posted 03/28/20 10:25am

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He was a Gemini wink

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Reply #17 posted 03/28/20 11:10am

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darkroman said:

Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

cool




WTF world do you live in??

White side of his heritage? FFS

This is offensive.

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Reply #18 posted 03/28/20 11:27am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



darkroman said:


Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

cool






WTF world do you live in??

White side of his heritage? FFS

This is offensive.



Not sure if he was being serious or looking to wind people up..
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Does he think Purple Rain was real and the mystical comments early in Prince’s career about him being mixed race were true...either way it’s an ignorant post
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Reply #19 posted 03/28/20 11:36am

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rogifan said:

I never liked the Liza Minelli look. Why did Prince use all this makeup that made his face look white? Was he trying to signify that "Prince" was dead? I always thought it was kind of morbid.

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I wonder what was going on in his head too.
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Reply #20 posted 03/28/20 12:07pm

SoulAlive

darkroman said:

Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

cool


Not sure where you got your information from,but both of Prince's parents were light-skinned black people.He was not "mixed race".

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Reply #21 posted 03/28/20 3:20pm

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He was a Gemini wink

Astrology isn't real. Those idiots thought the sun went around the Earth and they couldn't even predict solar eclipses to (literally) save their own lives. Complete fake nonsense made up by charlatans trying to make $$.

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Reply #22 posted 03/28/20 3:57pm

Mikado

SoulAlive said:

darkroman said:

Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

cool


Not sure where you got your information from,but both of Prince's parents were light-skinned black people.He was not "mixed race".

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Probably got his information from Prince, who said he was mixed race for years and portrayed himself as biracial in Purple Rain.

Weird how he never got any flack for minimizing his blackness like that...


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Reply #23 posted 03/28/20 3:58pm

RJOrion

steakfinger said:



missingprn said:


He was a Gemini wink




Astrology isn't real. Those idiots thought the sun went around the Earth and they couldn't even predict solar eclipses to (literally) save their own lives. Complete fake nonsense made up by charlatans trying to make $$.




astrology may or may not be real...but the greatness of Sagittarians, cannot be denied
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Reply #24 posted 03/28/20 5:21pm

looby

Mikado said:

SoulAlive said:

Not sure where you got your information from,but both of Prince's parents were light-skinned black people.He was not "mixed race".

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Probably got his information from Prince, who said he was mixed race for years and portrayed himself as biracial in Purple Rain.

Weird how he never got any flack for minimizing his blackness like that...


He never got any flack for minimizing his blackness like that, because black people knew that he used his light skin to get over in the business that he was in. In other words, Prince played the game he needed to play in order to make it big, and we (black people) knew it, I guess that's why they didn't give him flack for it. He did what he had to do, and after he made his fame and fortune, he owned his blackness completely, and didn't try to hide his true self and pretend to be anything other than who he was, a black man.

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Reply #25 posted 03/29/20 8:56am

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ask his former make up artist. Truly awful to go from the D&P look to that.

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Reply #26 posted 03/29/20 12:52pm

rogifan

looby said:

Mikado said:


Probably got his information from Prince, who said he was mixed race for years and portrayed himself as biracial in Purple Rain.

Weird how he never got any flack for minimizing his blackness like that...


He never got any flack for minimizing his blackness like that, because black people knew that he used his light skin to get over in the business that he was in. In other words, Prince played the game he needed to play in order to make it big, and we (black people) knew it, I guess that's why they didn't give him flack for it. He did what he had to do, and after he made his fame and fortune, he owned his blackness completely, and didn't try to hide his true self and pretend to be anything other than who he was, a black man.

Did Al Sharpton call him whitey like he did Whitney Houston?

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Reply #27 posted 03/29/20 1:12pm

looby

rogifan said:

looby said:

He never got any flack for minimizing his blackness like that, because black people knew that he used his light skin to get over in the business that he was in. In other words, Prince played the game he needed to play in order to make it big, and we (black people) knew it, I guess that's why they didn't give him flack for it. He did what he had to do, and after he made his fame and fortune, he owned his blackness completely, and didn't try to hide his true self and pretend to be anything other than who he was, a black man.

Did Al Sharpton call him whitey like he did Whitney Houston?

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I don't know, but tell me, should have Al Sharpton called him whitey like he did Whitney Houston? What's your point?

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Reply #28 posted 03/29/20 11:35pm

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Well he was going by an unpronouncable symbol as his name and writing slave on his face at the time - I think colour matching his foundation probably wasn't at the forefront of his mind at the time shrug
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RJOrion said:

darkroman said:

Prince always had issues with reconcilling the white side of his family with the black side of his family.

Yet he did manipulate this to his advantage.

He created white pop/rock music that would be played on white radio stations to attrack the white dollar to sell out stadiums. Prince was never ashamed about making money, whether it be black or white!

However, he kept black people in his band and portrayed a black persona in order to prevent people criticising him as selling out. The aftershow gigs were usually funk based to reinforce the facade.

The reality is that Prince was mixed race yet he would identify himself as being black yet visually and musically portraying himself as white.

Sadly Prince did abuse the white side of his heritage to make money and in doing do he sacrificed the black side.

Certainly in the very early days he was represented as being black as the record label would have had issues with him being mixed race! They would never had been able to sell him to radio as being mixed race as people would have been confused. People like neat and tidy boxes and labels!

Yet, in Prince's final years he took to wearing his big afro, again to remind people he was black, while taking the white dollar.

In conclusion Prince was either very clever, a master manipulator, or he had identity issues or he was clinically bipolar!

cool


"white side of his family"???.. Prince didnt have a "white side of his family"...he was a black man with 2 black parents...you say white side, as if Prince were half white like in the movie Purple Rain...

In all fairness, it wasn't just the movie, there's interviews where he pervades the myth in his own words verbatim.

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