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Thread started 02/28/20 8:43am

DirtyCache

Does Anyone Think They Should Slow Down...A Bit...With These Releases?

Just wondering if anyone else here thought that maybe these re-releases should B spread out a little farther?

I understand the "old school" hardcore fans cannot get enough. Many have been waiting a VERY long time 2 receive these, especially on vinyl.

Is it possible that it would B better 2 slow these releases down 2 allow the new and casual fans time 2 fully digest and appreciate all this great music...thus allowing people 2 really appreciate the man's musical greatness, like we have come 2 over the years?

2 me it seems like it might B a little 2 much 2 fast, daunting even, 2 flood the market with all these releases 2 quickly.
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Reply #1 posted 02/28/20 8:50am

Se7en

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If it was any other artist, I would say yes. But this is Prince! For almost 35 years we were used to at least an album a year. That pace didn't really slow down until 2010! Some might argue that not enough has come out in almost 4 years.

I'm speaking only of the original stuff such as PR:D, P&M 1983, NC2U, Originals, IF4U and 1999: SDE.

I'm not talking about all of the Sony "Legacy" releases. Is that where you think there's too much going on?

I would rather his name be kept current than a bunch of yearlong lapses. Side note: I'm not getting any younger!

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Reply #2 posted 02/28/20 9:03am

EmmaMcG

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Nah, the more the better. You can't really flood the market with music these days anyway. Music is not consumed in the same way as before. Streaming services have changed the game for people my age and younger. The internet as a whole has reduced my generation's attention span to that of a particularly forgetful goldfish. The only way of keeping that attention is to keep a steady stream of releases coming. And once it's out there, it's there forever. Always available online to be discovered by potential new fans.

Two releases per year would be enough. Old fans get the music they've wanted for years before they die off and younger fans have a constant reminder of who Prince was. Everyone's a winner.
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Reply #3 posted 02/28/20 9:04am

IstenSzek

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They can rerelease the official albums one at a time with some promo or all at once with little to no promo. I think they won’t attract much attention from this elusive ‚general public‘ either way.

They did not care when he was alive and after the shortlived hype post April 2016 the general interest had cooled down again.

his greatest hits packages will continue to sell well as will albums like PR
etc.

perhaps one or two 'new' albums will grab the attention of the generals for a
while in the future? who knows.

for now I think reissues with extra content is what appeals to most people all
across the board.

the people who actually buy boxes like 1999 SDE will buy them if they drop 1
every 2 months as well as 1 per year but they will prefer 1 every 2 months.

we've been prince fans for 20+ years, most of us, so we can handle a lot of
new material. most prince music is stuff I enjoy 10 years later as much or
more than the day of release. it doesn't matter if it was released as 1 per
18 months or the songs came 1 per week, like with npgmc or something.

i treasure all that stuff.

the only thing i don't care about regarding prince music is this dream that
his music has to grab the attention of the masses and be a hit again. that's
no longer the criteria for succes for him.

and as far as we, the actual fans go, we don't want to wait too long between
releases.

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[Edited 2/28/20 10:43am]
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #4 posted 02/28/20 9:53am

jfenster

R U insane....the more the betta ...u want to wait bfore coronavirus or iran takes us out...stock the shelves and let people buy when they can

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Reply #5 posted 02/28/20 12:10pm

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I'm a newish fan compared to most, and I've loved both the pace and quality of releases so far; most of the big releases have been reissues of one kind or another anyway, and the entirely original album-length releases have emerged at a similar rate to new albums in his lifetime, so... *shrug*

Even reissues will probably slow down after 2021 anyway, as almost everything obvious will have presumably been put back into the market by then. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the ride.

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Reply #6 posted 02/28/20 12:27pm

Genesia

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Since I don't have Prince concerts to spend money on, anymore - bring on the albums!

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #7 posted 02/28/20 1:35pm

ludwig

No! I want to hear all that vault material in my lifetime, and I'm not young anymore.

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Reply #8 posted 02/28/20 1:45pm

SoulAlive

Nope,no need to slow down.I wish we were getting at least THREE deluxe editions a year biggrin We're not getting any younger.I want to enjoy this stuff before I'm too old to get up and dance,lol

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Reply #9 posted 02/28/20 4:05pm

IstenSzek

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SoulAlive said:

Nope,no need to slow down.I wish we were getting at least THREE deluxe editions a year biggrin We're not getting any younger.I want to enjoy this stuff before I'm too old to get up and dance,lol


agreed, 100% nod


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Reply #10 posted 02/28/20 5:34pm

lavendardrumma
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Why? The new generation experiencing these records for the first time aren't getting them released by Prince or by an industry that works on the release schedule of his era...the one that he hated and fought againt to begin with....most of the music is available already, even the unreleased material and live material, to anyone who really wants to find it. Nobody is promoting these records on talk shows or through tours, they're back catalog. Slow down the back catalog? The traditional way of doing things would be a box set of all the records at once, or by era.

But you know what... go at your own pace.

For the rest of us that are rediscovering and falling in love with the material all over again, we can't wait, we've been waiting a long time for this...and most of us never thought we'd see the Vault opened at this stage in our lives.

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Reply #11 posted 02/28/20 5:37pm

Pokeno4Money

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I think the only mistake they made was releasing PR Deluxe just 7 months after 4Ever which had five PR songs included. They should have released something different after the 7 months.

Casual fans who bought 4Ever probably passed on PR Deluxe because 4Ever had so many PR songs.

"Never let nasty stalkers disrespect you. They start shit, you finish it. Go down to their level, that's the only way they'll understand. You have to handle things yourself."
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Reply #12 posted 02/28/20 5:46pm

SquirrelMeat

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If they slow it down anymore, none of us will be alive to see full content of the vault.

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Reply #13 posted 02/28/20 6:45pm

williamb610

No offense but...HELL NO! They should speed them up and include the new music outside of the deluxe re-releases.

We still haven't gotten a proper release of any unreleased vault albums that Prince had, like Deliverance or the Welcome to America album.

Hurry these damn releases up! I'm tired of waiting. And...oh yeah, release 'The Undertaker' album, like YESTERDAY!

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Reply #14 posted 02/28/20 6:55pm

Dauphin

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I feel like the actual buyers (us) are older. They don't have the luxury of a new release every five years.
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Still it's nice to know, when our bodies wear out, we can get another

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Reply #15 posted 02/28/20 7:21pm

djdaffy1227

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I've said this too. As a collector I can't spend $500 on 1999 stuff then a few months later $200 on One nite alone stuff. Either slow down or just release one at a time. That's my wish.

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
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Reply #16 posted 02/28/20 7:25pm

rdhull

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DirtyCache said:

Is it possible that it would B better 2 slow these releases down 2 allow the new and casual fans time 2 fully digest and appreciate all this great music..

fuck them

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #17 posted 02/28/20 10:02pm

PeggyO

Dauphin said:

I feel like the actual buyers (us) are older. They don't have the luxury of a new release every five years.

Us geezers are on borrowed time...

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Reply #18 posted 02/28/20 10:11pm

LoveGalore

It's up to you to consume things at a pace that works for you. Let the releases flow and consume them as you please.
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Reply #19 posted 02/29/20 3:31am

NouveauDance

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I don't know about anybody else, but I view the Warner special editions and releases as completely separate from the Sony reissues. How it will go later down the road I don't know - but to me the important stuff is Originals, 1999 DE etc. The extras and icing on the cake for collectors or LTTP fans are the reissues with nothing new on them. I don't think one cannibalizes the other in terms of market share or marketing. Not too many casual fans are really going to give af about a reissue from the 'dark years', so they can bang out as many of those as they want, it won't hurt the promotion or sales of the next deluxe edition or vault release imo.

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Reply #20 posted 02/29/20 7:36am

djThunderfunk

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SquirrelMeat said:

If they slow it down anymore, none of us will be alive to see full content of the vault.


THIS!

As I'm getting older, I think they should release it faster.

Clearly they need to get what they can now while the audience is still alive and interested and the market still has a place for physical media.

djThunderfunk said:
Not because of some silly milano on the org.

PennyPurple thought it was racial slur and said:
Ban! Ban! Ban! Ban! Ban! lol
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Reply #21 posted 02/29/20 10:32am

DirtyCache

rdhull said:



DirtyCache said:


Is it possible that it would B better 2 slow these releases down 2 allow the new and casual fans time 2 fully digest and appreciate all this great music..

fuck them



LOL
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Reply #22 posted 02/29/20 11:22am

DirtyCache

djdaffy1227 said:

I've said this too. As a collector I can't spend $500 on 1999 stuff then a few months later $200 on One nite alone stuff. Either slow down or just release one at a time. That's my wish.



:yeahthat:
Well I am in this boat 2...and this was kinda my thinking regarding not only the 'new' fans but us 'old' ones alike.

As mentioned above, most of us have this stuff in one form or another and have collected and spent that $$$ over many, many years.


It's just a lot of $$$ 4 some people and I wonder how a "new" fan feels about all this music coming out and being able 2 afford it.

I mean I guess if they R learning 2 truly appreciate his music, his genius, they will continue 2 consume at their own pace and what they can afford 2.

Please don't get me wrong, 2 have all these releases, re-releases and Deluxe sets is AWESOME and I am nothing short of excited 2 C what's coming next.

It is however, very costly when they R being pushed out at the pace they R now...IMO

I just hate 2 miss out on certain limited edition releases...because I'm a broke toilet a bum loser
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Reply #23 posted 02/29/20 11:57am

djThunderfunk

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Buy the limited stuff, or the stuff you most want, when they come out. Then take your time to buy the rest. Works for me.

djThunderfunk said:
Not because of some silly milano on the org.

PennyPurple thought it was racial slur and said:
Ban! Ban! Ban! Ban! Ban! lol
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Reply #24 posted 03/01/20 5:52am

udo

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DirtyCache said:

Just wondering if anyone else here thought that maybe these re-releases should B spread out a little farther?

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Hell no!

Why?

Because you can't keep up?

Time is running out, so hurry up!

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #25 posted 03/01/20 6:06am

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DirtyCache said:

I wonder how a "new" fan feels about all this music coming out and being able 2 afford it.

Don't worry: most new fans will just stream the music from Spotify, so money is not a problem for them. Money is only a problem for a few surviving collectors. I'm not a collector, so I couldn't care less about expensive physical releases. Music is what's important, so I'm with the majority here: I want as much music to be released as soon as possible, because life is short, in general, and it's certainly way too short to get only 2-3 CDs worth of previously unreleased Prince music each year. At that pace, we'll all be dead before 10% of the vault has been released.

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Reply #26 posted 03/01/20 6:18am

udo

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olb99 said:

I want as much music to be released as soon as possible, because life is short, in general, and it's certainly way too short to get only 2-3 CDs worth of previously unreleased Prince music each year. At that pace, we'll all be dead before 10% of the vault has been released.

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yeahthat

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #27 posted 03/01/20 10:03pm

callimnate

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PeggyO said:

Dauphin said:

I feel like the actual buyers (us) are older. They don't have the luxury of a new release every five years.

Us geezers are on borrowed time...

Hear Hear! lol

But to answer the OP's question seriously.......

I love all the shit thats constantly coming out, but dont expect us married father of three to go out and buy everything thats released.

I can only afford to pick and choose which ones I really need (or want). But if I was single and irresponsible, I'd be going NUTS!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #28 posted 03/02/20 1:33am

darkroman

No!

These re-issues are part of a defined contract with start and end points. The sooner they are out of the way the better for all of us!

If (or when) Sony can release Vault tracks, then more interesting material will come fast.

History has shown Sony to be overtly commercial. So they will want to raid the vault at speed.

I appreciate Warners has always been about nurture but Sony has always been about a fast buck!


cool

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Reply #29 posted 03/02/20 3:32am

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darkroman said:

No!

These re-issues are part of a defined contract with start and end points. The sooner they are out of the way the better for all of us!

If (or when) Sony can release Vault tracks, then more interesting material will come fast.

History has shown Sony to be overtly commercial. So they will want to raid the vault at speed.

I appreciate Warners has always been about nurture but Sony has always been about a fast buck!


cool


I don't believe Sony have any access to tracks in the vault, or ever will. That's all at the disposal of Warners. There could also be as many as 10,000+ songs there. By '89 there were already 2000 songs. Warners played a blinder... basically Sony, you can have the reissues which have sold nearly all they're gonna sell.

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