Are these decent sales?

Wonder what the streaming numbers are.

leecaldon said:

Still don't care.

But that is still decent consider the fact the estate barely did promotion and relied word of the mouthand they just collecting these coins. And on top of that these songs were created by Prince years ago without the estate had to put a dime to hire new musicans with these newly releases.

Shit I wish I still get paid for the work I did in the 90s and 00s. If the estate complains about these sells (they better be grateful they even sold one album per released since P past) then they are a damn fool.

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Sadly, if you take into account the multiple formats made for each release, there must only be a about 100,000 fans left worldwide.

Soon to be an endangered species!

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darkroman said:

Sadly, if you take into account the multiple formats made for each release, there must only be a about 100,000 fans left worldwide.

Soon to be an endangered species!

[Edited 1/12/20 12:28pm]

That is why licensing is going to be the key for the estate to make money in the long run. Like when a Prince song getting play over the radio or a sporting game or in books and the such. I know some fans would say its selling out no its continue to bring money into the estate.

I am curious to know how much Prince made overall in 2019 because I know Forbes do those Dead celebrities yearly earnings or something. MJ and Elvis still bring some coins.

ladygirl99 said:

Prince cut off his fanbase so drastically after Purple Rain that this is hardly surprising.

CynicKill said:

Prince cut off his fanbase so drastically after Purple Rain that this is hardly surprising.

let me guess. you own Purple Rain & a greatest hits package only!!

RODSERLING said:

To all the hypocrites that kept on telling they didn't care about sales, but that are now asking for it lol : . Best selling physical/digital copies in the US in 2019 (no streaming at all here): #86 Purple Rain (92.000 ex.)/98.000 in 2018) #138 Originals (68.000) . 1999 : 40.000 copies (including the regular edition) The Versace Experience : 15.000 ex. . Like I said at the time, TVBOP, which used to sell 100/150.000 ex a year before Prince s death, is now cannibalised by 4EVER. Consequence : none of them appeared in the charts this year. . Discounting Versace experience, the Sony rereleases sold like 50.000 copies. . In conclusion, in 2019 Prince sold an estimate 350.000 copies in the US. You can double that number to estimate 700.000 worldwide sales To compare, Forbes said Prince sold in 2018 250.000 copies in the US. . His Warner catalogue saw a decrease of 6%, but the Sony re releases + Originals which sold better than Piano...83+ 1999 deluxe make that overall numbers increase. [Edited 1/12/20 4:09am]

really great info Rod, much appreciated. On top of that I guess there's the whole back catalogue sales to consider too. Intrigued as to how they sold in terms of ohysical copies or paid for down loads.

Streaming really has skewed how we measure genuine sales.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

ladygirl99 said:

That is why licensing is going to be the key for the estate to make money in the long run. Like when a Prince song getting play over the radio or a sporting game or in books and the such. I know some fans would say its selling out no its continue to bring money into the estate.

I am curious to know how much Prince made overall in 2019 because I know Forbes do those Dead celebrities yearly earnings or something. MJ and Elvis still bring some coins.

Those fans are fools.

Haha

Some people need to be real we live in capitalist world as long as bills need to pay there is nothing wrong with selling out. Even Prince had to make those decisions too.

I did some research and I found my answer so far.

9 | PRINCE: $12 million

Deceased: April 21, 2016

Cause of death: Overdose

The Purple One continues to move music, including a robust 320,000 physical units and half a billion on-demand streams, an overall increase of 12% year-over-year.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2019/10/30/the-top-earning-dead-celebrities-of--2019/#9be127f4e5e8

So he earned around 12 million between Oct 2018 and Oct 2019.

That is not bad at all. Do I wish he was higher on the list? Of course because he has a lot of work yet to release but consider the fact that the estate still remains unsettled and limited releases that amount is not bad.

Marilyn Monroe has been dead for almost 60 years and still making some godddamn coins.

So is Bob Marley his estate did a good job continue to generate sales. I am suprised Elizabeth Taylor and Jimi Hendrix isn't on the list but I think Jimi might go back on there if his estate plans something since it would be 50 years since he died this year.

If you guys check on the list majority of dead celebrities made money through licensing and merchandising. Even Michael Jackson's estate is making majority of the money through his publishing rights to other artists along with his own songs in the catalogue and licensing deals as his albums alone wouldn't be enough to make it on that list.

So I think we should now relax on Prince and his album sells LOL because trust me that is not going to make bulk of his estate earnings in the future.

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

CynicKill said:

Prince cut off his fanbase so drastically after Purple Rain that this is hardly surprising.

let me guess. you own Purple Rain & a greatest hits package only!!

Wrong!

And you know I'm not lying.

RODSERLING said:

leecaldon said:

Are these decent sales?

Wonder what the streaming numbers are.

Well, these are better numbers than in 2018. Of course there were like ten releases last year. I think they can do better numbers in 2020, by releasing albums such as Versace Experience that was never released before such as Chocolate Invasion, ONA, Slaughter House, etc. [Edited 1/12/20 7:08am]

I am sorry....but there will be hardly a demand for Chocolate Invasion, ONA, Slaughter House.....

macaylasdad said:

His numbers are amazing.

Nobody is selling records anymore.

Popular artists struggle to sell 100k.

So the estate is probably pretty happy about the numbers.

RODSERLING said:

macaylasdad said:

I am sorry....but there will be hardly a demand for Chocolate Invasion, ONA, Slaughter House.....

You re wrong. The Versace Experience sold twice the amount of the other Sony re releases because it wasn't officially released before in stores. . It wasn't available in vinyl neither. . So the demand is higher. No crazy numbers but if you add up the multiple releases it begins to make decent sales.

We shall see.

40,000 aint bad. And at 50 bucks a pop average?

TrivialPursuit said:

Still don't care.

Neither do I.

RODSERLING said:

Dandroppedadime said:

I truly believe there is a big selling album waiting in the vaults of Iron Mountain, possibly Dream Factory (maybe Camille) could do amazing numbers as they are infamous withdrawn albums that should generate a lot of interest.

Nope. Even a pristine Dream Factory original formation etc will not do big numbers.

jdcxc said:

rdhull said:

Dandroppedadime said:

I truly believe there is a big selling album waiting in the vaults of Iron Mountain, possibly Dream Factory (maybe Camille) could do amazing numbers as they are infamous withdrawn albums that should generate a lot of interest.

Nope. Even a pristine Dream Factory original formation etc will not do big numbers.

Have to agree, the days of big numbers have been over for a long time. Purple Rain will continue to sell in a small and steady rate but otherwise you'd need some kind of media event to even get a big bump in the Best Of sales. I still think there's space for a definitive Best of Prince to be released but in the age of streaming even the impact of that would be small.

And this is as it should be, there's no reason a man dead 4 years should be having big chart hits. He has his dedicated audience, he has his one massive album, and for those of us really into music he has his critical acclaim that'll means he'll be in print for a long time. You couldn't ask for more.

jaawwnn said:

rdhull said:

Nope. Even a pristine Dream Factory original formation etc will not do big numbers.

Have to agree, the days of big numbers have been over for a long time. Purple Rain will continue to sell in a small and steady rate but otherwise you'd need some kind of media event to even get a big bump in the Best Of sales. I still think there's space for a definitive Best of Prince to be released but in the age of streaming even the impact of that would be small.

And this is as it should be, there's no reason a man dead 4 years should be having big chart hits. He has his dedicated audience, he has his one massive album, and for those of us really into music he has his critical acclaim that'll means he'll be in print for a long time. You couldn't ask for more.

Exactly.