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Reply #30 posted 01/11/20 11:44pm

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Moonbeam said:

sexton said:



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I didn't interpret his post as being dismissive. It was free of his usual snark.

Anyway, I have the Australian Sign 'O' The Times Blu-ray and one of the German editions. They both look very good.

As for the other 2019 releases, I only bought:

His Majesty's Pop Life / The Purple Mix Club 2LP
The Versace Experience (Prelude 2 Gold) Cassette
The Originals 2LP/CD

I'd splurge on some of the other vinyl reissues if they were on black vinyl and not mismatching purple.




No 1999 Deluxe! eek




I finally bought it today. I'll dive into it later this weekend. I'm 100% honestly looking forward to resequencing the edited versions on disc two in the same order as how they appear on disc one and listening to how a shorter version of the album sounds. Yay for rereleasing edits!



Yay! It is fascinating to hear the edits, how these long sci-fi synth edits are crafted down to catchy single-worthy songs.


Reminds me of how in that new interview Bobby mentions the songs are repetitive. And this is true and probably why they work at either 9 minutes or 3 minutes.
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Reply #31 posted 01/12/20 6:15am

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djThunderfunk said:


I didn't say he said something untrue. What is wrong is he was being dismissive of the lack of a U.S. release by suggesting I just get one of the other ones.

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What I said is that the US has the exact same problem most of the world has WRT SOTT and isn't exceptional at all. The German Blu-ray (and upcoming UK Blu-ray) seem to be some kind of fluke/happy accident, but it's not like the German BD was attractively priced. The UK one seems to have a "regular" price, but it is also a barebones release (and let's wait and see what its A/V quality is before praising it).

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And while the documentary and the interviews on the German BD are a nice bonus (and hurrah for someone finally filming interviews with these people 30+ years after the movie's release), they're also quite amateurish and obviously done on a very limited budget. Seeing the same handful of promo photos being used again and again also shows the lack of proper sources; we really should have gotten bonus footage etc., but if such footage exists in the PP vaults (and that is a very big if) it wouldn't have been part of this licensing deal anyway.

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On the one hand: Prince could and should have fixed this decades ago by simply paying the company that owned this movie whatever sum of money they wanted to get back the rights. But then chances are there wouldn't have been any DVD or BD releases at all, not TV screenings or a re-release in movie theatres, nor would it have been available through the likes of Amazon Prime. Expecting this contractual mess to be solved by an estate that clearly doesn't have the kind of money to solve this now (I bet the price of SOTT has gone up in recent years), is futile.

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Maybe some company wants to do a barebones BD in the US, maybe even including the German bonus material, maybe including some of their own (a commentary track featuring band members etc.), but there is some contractual block (e.g. a prohibition on home video releases in the USA, though that seems unlikely) or perhaps they fear the estate having the power to block such a release.

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I thnink the lack of access to quality bonus material might be the biggest roadblock for several of these speciality labels. Considering that the German release involved that company fixing videoerrors in the UGTL segment and creating two multi-channel audio tracks based on the existing stereo audio track, one could even argue that the source material isn't satisfactory to their needs in an era where 4k remasters are de rigueur.



All I'm saying is that someone has the rights to release it in the U.S. and considering that we haven't had a release since VHS, it would make money. At least enough for one of the boutique labels.

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Reply #32 posted 01/13/20 1:51am

andrewm7

In my opinion 2019 will go down as the first year after Prince passed that there was lots of good "official" stuff. I bought many things from the estate and feel that I got good value for them smile

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Reply #33 posted 01/13/20 2:21am

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I have seen a few 2019 lists and they all miss these:

7inch ''Rock N Roll Is Alive (And It Lives In Minneapolis)'' - April 2019.
7inch ''My Computer / Shhh'' - September 2019.

Also ''I Feel For You'' is a 2019 digital only release.

2020 will see the ''I Feel For You'' 7inch physical release.


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Reply #34 posted 01/13/20 6:24am

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darkroman said:

I have seen a few 2019 lists and they all miss these:

7inch ''Rock N Roll Is Alive (And It Lives In Minneapolis)'' - April 2019.
7inch ''My Computer / Shhh'' - September 2019.

Also ''I Feel For You'' is a 2019 digital only release.

2020 will see the ''I Feel For You'' 7inch physical release.


cool

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I said this in the OP:

"I didn't even mention a couple promo 7" singles", referring to Rock N Roll Is Alive & My Computer.

I also mentioned I Feel For You which already got a 7" single in October, 2019 and I suspect will be on Originals Volume 2.


http://www.princevault.co...el_For_You



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Reply #35 posted 01/13/20 7:20pm

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djThunderfunk said:

darkroman said:

I have seen a few 2019 lists and they all miss these:

7inch ''Rock N Roll Is Alive (And It Lives In Minneapolis)'' - April 2019.
7inch ''My Computer / Shhh'' - September 2019.

Also ''I Feel For You'' is a 2019 digital only release.

2020 will see the ''I Feel For You'' 7inch physical release.


cool

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I said this in the OP:

"I didn't even mention a couple promo 7" singles", referring to Rock N Roll Is Alive & My Computer.

I also mentioned I Feel For You which already got a 7" single in October, 2019 and I suspect will be on Originals Volume 2.


http://www.princevault.co...el_For_You



The digital release was October but the 7" doesn't come out until this year. It wouldn't work on Originals though because it wasn't written for another artist.

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Reply #36 posted 01/14/20 6:10am

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embmmusic said:

djThunderfunk said:


I said this in the OP:

"I didn't even mention a couple promo 7" singles", referring to Rock N Roll Is Alive & My Computer.

I also mentioned I Feel For You which already got a 7" single in October, 2019 and I suspect will be on Originals Volume 2.


http://www.princevault.co...el_For_You



The digital release was October but the 7" doesn't come out until this year. It wouldn't work on Originals though because it wasn't written for another artist.


I didn't realize that the 7" hadn't shipped yet. That SUCKS!!! So glad I didn't order it then. The week they were taking preorders I went back and forth but the price was simply too high to justify for one track that could be purchased digitally much cheaper.

I agree with the technicality about the track and Originals, but....
I bet they do it anyway. It was a huge hit for Chaka, they'll want to highlight that it was originally his.
And since it's a demo, they can say it's the "original". No?

Taking bets... wink

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